Medellin Reports

[DcGamer69]

My plan is to go General Santos City (it's about a $100 round trip plane ride from Manila) after setting up some dates in advance through Filipino Cupid. I've already rented an apparently nice airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/970344118624617220

I think that I can get a beautiful 20 year old to stay with me for about $50 per day. (And "beauty" is subjective. I mean that in my personal opinion she is beautiful.) That's compared to about $65 per hour in Medellin. However of course the proof is in the pudding. I've can't definitely know until I actually go there and see what the reality is on the ground.

My plan is to go General Santos City (it's about a $100 round trip plane ride from Manila) after setting up some dates in advance through Filipino Cupid. I've already rented an apparently nice Airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/970344118624617220

I think that I can get a beautiful 20 year old to stay with me for about $50 per day. (And "beauty" is subjective. I mean that in my personal opinion she is beautiful.) That's compared to about $65 per hour in Medellin. However of course the proof is in the pudding. I've can't definitely know until I actually go there and see what the reality is on the ground.

I went to Medellin twice in 2020 before the pandemic changed things, during March 2020 prior to days before the closing of borders and quarantine and again for Nov 2020 when the country had opened again. Fase Dos was 200 K, Isla was 300 K back then, instead of 300 K and 500-600 K. Just to give context.

I went to Phils my first time this November thru December 24 for 30 days, did Angeles City for 9 days + Makati Manila 5 the + Quezon city 5 the + return to AC for 10 days as finale before returning to USA.

Overall it was nearly 3 x more cheaper in the value I got vs Medellin. The equiavent of 350 K in filipino pesos was 4500 for a Long Time 9-Hour barfine with GFE and multiple pops. My god the service was literally 3 x better and the chicas were much tighter. Those complaining about Phils not having attractive women are dead wrong in my experience. Tons looked like latinas, from morenas to light skin mestiza lookers. I loved it, and to the person who said 100 K equivalent for FS is not possible in Phils, you are wrong. I was getting amazing 18 yo morena cutie, who looked 100% like the petite tanned skin paisas, except she was from Mabalacat near AC, I saw her 3 times first time with her friend in 3 sum. 1500 p every time, that's just 27 usd and just above 100 K, and without a doubt you will not find one so pretty and tight in MDE for 100 k, the quality at that rate is lower in Colombia.

I always thought Colombia was the best but a month in Phils has seriously contested this in my mind. The options are endless in Phils, from value long time 9 hour barfines with 18 yo cuties, to freelancers as low as 1000 k or 19 $, norm was 2 k, just above 37 $. The food was cheaper too and everything was lower cost than Medellin by far. In Makati the barfines are double than AC, so if people are basing the value in Phils from Makati barfines they are way off. The freelancers in Makati P Burgos were 2 k also, so cheaper than Parque Lleras, and my god I saw one in the chicken place Andoks in p Burgos that was hotter than any I have seen in MDE, long legs, silky morena skin, tall, cute face, I said to myself "wow if she was in Colombia people would think she is a 10" and that was just a chicken place LOL. Pina Luv in Makati I met a 18 yo who quoted 3500 and she came over, it was amazing and the value is similar to what paisas ask in Poblado, 250 k. But this one was much tighter.

Phils really did a number on me and I am Latino and fluent Spanish speaker, and literally I am still confused which is better, since I have not returned to MDE since 2020 and realistically I agree with a previous poster, Phils is the new Colombia. I just need to return to MDE to confirm how it is now, but from my perspective and research it seems MDE and Colombia are just getting worst not better. I definitely recommend Phils for those who love Colombia, but it needs more time and planning than a Colombia trip.

Salutes to everyone.

[Orgasmico]

Now I realize that I am probably very spoilt from Thailand where I usually do not even mention the word condom and easily have 2 girls per day raw without protection, I realize this might be quite different in Colombia.

I don't get why anyone would be talking about Colombia when you're getting this type of service LOL.

[Argo1990]

I just returned from a 3 week trip to Pattaya last night (my usual mongering destination simply for the fact that there are literally thousands of reasonably priced beautiful girls and Thailand is very safe).

During my trip I met some German and Dutch guys that told me a few things about Colombia and Mexico and I must admit that got me really excited.

I did some basic research here in the forums as well as some market analysis on miloseroticos and pasionprepagos for example to get an understanding on pricing and also the fact that Medellin is far from "safe" by any reasonable standards but I am willing to take the risk and plan a 2 week trip.

I have previously been to Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro and never had any issues there (also in some seedier areas) because I look quite mediterranian (Arab / German mix, late 30's) but I do not speak ANY spanish at all. I will try to prepare by learning some basic spanish words but that will have to suffice.

I skimmed through the last 15-20 pages here and could not find reliable info on some topics therefore asking here, I would appreciate your feedback and help and would be happy to repay you with a drink or two once I touch ground in Medellin / Bogota.

1. Prices:

Before I get started with prices, I usually aim for younger girls between 18-23, I do not have any crazy requirements when it comes to the body, only one important requirement, her face should be attractive / pretty / cute and at least a 7. Everything else less important as long as the girl is not obese.

Now based on miloseroticos and pasionprepagos the norm for reasonably attractive young girls is somewhere in the ballpark of 100-200 k per hour. Obviously there are significantly pricier and also prettier options but since my main requirement really is *age* and pretty face there seem to be quite a few options in that price range.

There is however very little information on the offline girls (be it streetwalkers or girls working in brothels massage parlors and whatnot) so I am very curious to find out about those prices. Ideally I would like to have 1-2 girls per day either from Centro or Poblado or any other location that you can recommend.

2. Condoms / STIs: Now I realize that I am probably very spoilt from Thailand where I usually do not even mention the word condom and easily have 2 girls per day raw without protection, I realize this might be quite different in Colombia. Do girls usually heavily insist on condoms or is this an afterthought? Online girls seem to only do covered sex. If its a question of price is additional 20-25% sufficient?

3. Best Hotel locations when it comes to easy acces and variety / quantity of girls: As this will be my first trip, security and ease of access to girls will be my main priorities when it comes to hotel / neighborhood choice. As long as the rooms are modern and clean I am okay with it. Any recommendations?

I realize that is quite the wall of text but I prefer to put down all my questions in one post instead of posting 20 times. Would appreciate your feedback and help and if you are there in May / June, drinks on me!

[Iguana Six]

If I'm not mistaken Colombia receives millions if not billions of dollars from the US government every year in the form of defense funding, weapons, munitions, and even military training to help combat the guerilla fighters such as the FARC disidents and EZN as well as to eradicate coca farms.

Perhaps the US threatened to stop the funding if they were to impose reciprocity fees on us.

Colombia has been down-sizing its military over the last 7-8 years. The government decided that once most of the country was pacified, the FARC-the issue would become more of a law enforcement problem, and less of a military problem. After 2016, most of the Colombian military officers I spoke to were worried about being prematurely retired, as the government was considering cutting about 1/3 of them, mostly from that huge cohort that was commissioned about 20 years ago to implement Plan Colombia.

The Colombian military responded to the cut-backs by trying to remain relevant by exporting their combat expertise. For example, they trained the Panamanian coast guard-equivalent's Naval Infantry battalion. (Yes, a country without a military has a coast guard with its own "Marine Corps. " Strange, but true.).

[Nounce]

So La Isla is more expensive than Loutron at $400 K and probably a lot noisier too given the strip club environment. Wonder how the rates at Fase Dos compare?

Loutron used to be about the same price as La Isla, maybe a little more. Both were under 300 K FaseII was about half of that. The price changed because they now attract different customers.

[CeeJay1]

Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.

As far as the regular casa's the standard going is rate is 50 k. Of course you don't out right give them that you ask for sin condom and maybe you can get it gratis as part as the initial fee or a lot less than 50 k. With my experience you don't go above the standard price because usually, if not always, its a shitty BBBJ most likely because they don't like doing it or they have a problem with they do it only for a minute or whatever. But as far as the standard for SW's (el Centro) maybe someone else can comment on that but it's probably around the same price. Higher end casa's like energy I been quoted 150 k or 200 k and of course I opt out. Not taking that risk, especially when its more than the actual service. The best BBBJ I received at these places was either part of the service or I got for practically nothing, so its true the best things in life are free at least in this case.

[Zeos1]

Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.

There are no "places" and no standard cost. Its something you will have to negotiate or find out with each chica.

[Nil Admirari]

It's luck of the draw in a casa you are better off with an independant from photoprepago or milerotics. However if you go to Energy for instance you will see prices between 50 K-100 K (more girls charrging 100 K now which I think is too much) BUT with casa you can't negotitate until you are in the room with them.
Better off looking for oral naturale on the sites with with indepdnats.

Not true. As I've mentioned on this thread several times, in the casas I always ask the mamasan in charge if I can talk to the chica of my choice in private before committing and going to the room--and have never been turned down. Usually find a quite spot in the waiting room and negotiate extras like mamada natural (BBBJ) and besos con la lengua (DFK) in advance.

Also, since I usually am only visiting casas in search of a "hidden gem" to audition for a longer term relationship, before going to the room I'll often confirm that, if we have good chemistry in the sack, they will share their WHATSAPP contact and be available to visit me in my apartment--and have an ID that meets my building's strict requirements.

If, after this interview, we don't agree--or I don't get a good vibe (sense of her personality), I say thanks, pay the viewing fee, and move on.

[BlueChange]

Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.

It's luck of the draw in a casa you are better off with an independant from photoprepago or milerotics. However if you go to Energy for instance you will see prices between 50 K-100 K (more girls charrging 100 K now which I think is too much) BUT with casa you can't negotitate until you are in the room with them.

Better off looking for oral naturale on the sites with with indepdnats.

[Mr Enternational]

Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.

Damn. What happened to the mongers whose time is worth more than the 600 K? Maybe their time was only worth the 400 K that it was before. Cheap Charlies.

[Exoticspirit]

Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.

So La Isla is more expensive than Loutron at $400 K and probably a lot noisier too given the strip club environment. Wonder how the rates at Fase Dos compare?

[Stl24]

Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.

[Questner]

All I am saying is that the country Colombia does not charge Americans a reciprocity fee on entry even though the process a Colombian needs to use to get a US visitor visa is no easier or cheaper than that for entering Canada. So they have chosen to not treat Americans in the same way. I only speculate on why. And perhaps it is because the cost to their economy or to their tourism industry might be too high if they did. So that is all I am saying. I don't have any inside information on it. Just an opinion or a guess on that part.

https://unidad-administrativa-especi...76-de-2023.pdf

BTW there is evidence that Colombian Immigration has certain autonomy in its decisions from the government.

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/...isitors-again/#google_vignette.

[Medclubber]

Thanks for your feedback on La Isla. Just to confirm, was the $600 K just for the room or was this inclusive with the girl? If not, how much was the girl?

Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.

[Exoticspirit]

Went last Saturday night, it was pretty much the same thing. Also I was a bit disappointed by the amount of ladies working on Saturday night, the club was not even half full. Also there were not that many visitors, I do think that the room charge to 600 k has not been a smart move, the place seems more quite ever since. Then again, I also went yesterday (Monday) and I actually felt there were a few more hotties. Went with a girl I had went with a few times, she's one of the older ones I guess, I'd say about 40, her ass is a bit saggy but she has very horny eyes, strokes my cock inside the club, so she's hard to resist in combination with those horny eyes LOL. Sex was quite good, but when I came, she also pretended to come, at least so I thought, she really overdid it in my experience which I felt is a turnoff, nobody screams that hard and intense when they come so it felt like she was really overdoing it, trying to fake an orgasm. However then I saw that she actually had squirted all over me, she looked at me all embarassed and apologized, haha, so that was fun. So, still a great night but yeah I do feel La Isla used to be better.

Thanks for your feedback on La Isla. Just to confirm, was the $600 K just for the room or was this inclusive with the girl? If not, how much was the girl?