Medellin Reports

[Mfins]

Just returned from a quick 3 day trip to MDE. Without going into llong details, and just offering a general observation the woman in Medellin are just absolutely gorgeous. It had been about a year since I was last in Medellin and I forgot just how pretty the girls are. I am talking about the girls in the mall, resteraunts, walking around the streets. Just plain beauty.

As far as the clubs go, San Diego, Luna Lunera, La Isla and Face 2 there was some talent but, the prices seem to have been really out of wack this trip. I was quoted $300, $400 and $500 for take out. Seems much higher than I remember.

Also, just from talking with the girls there was not going to be any GFE.

I will definitely be going back to Medellin in the future as the city and woman are great but, I need to try another tactic other than the overpriced clubs.

[UltraHappy]

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos...x-tourism.html

Federal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age).

Not so fast. Your link was helpful in pointing us to the actual USC code.

18 USC 2423 does not prohibit "any form of sexual conduct with a minor". Instead, it prohibits "illicit sexual conduct" in foreign countries with minors (or traveling to a foreign country with an intent to engage in "illicit sexual conduct".

What is "illicit sexual conduct" you ask? For this, we must look to the definition of "illicit sexual conduct" in 18 USC 2423 (f), which provides:

(1) it has to be a violation of Ch. 109 A with a person under 18, or.

(2) a commercial sex act with someone under 18.

What are violations of Chapter 109 A you ask? Chapter 109 A has been codified in the United States Code as 18 USC 2241 and following. Here is one link: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...100-Pg3660.pdf.

Chapter 109 A violations are things like Aggravated Sexual Abuse, Sexual Abuse, etc. You have to read each section under 109 A to understand what constitutes violations under that chapter, but it's stuff like forcing someone to have sex with violence or threat of violence or having sex with a kid 15 or younger (in other words who hasn't yet attained the age of 16).

So, in brief summary, if you aren't paying for it and if you aren't engaging in any Chapter 109 A violations, I don't see any violation of these provisions.

[San Te]

They can but they will lose the cases. The Law cannot be changed unless Congress changes it. I just stated the USA laws that apply to USA Citizens and Alien Residents anywhere. You have to use your judgment as the laws are stated. I think FL Miami is where there are many flights to Latin America. They do arrest [CodeWord915] in San Francisco and Los Angeles too. These folks are into children well below 14 years of age. They are breaking laws everywhere and should be arrested. The Feds main interest is the [CodeWord914] and rarely do they chase folks having legal age sex. The Feds know every [CodeWord911] and the sites the [CodeWord915] use and track them.

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos...x-tourism.html

Ederal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age).

[Hioctane]

My subjective rankings compared to a couple of other mongering destinations.

Overall, I would rank the casas and night clubs in MDE lower in service levels compared to my experiences in the German FKKs, but on the other hand, MDE does have some lower price options than the German FKKs. I found the service levels of the Hotel M chicas to rival that of the German FKKs, while the MDE Hotel M chicas had a huge price advantage over the German FKKs.

Comparing the casas and night clubs in MDE to the Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico, I would say that the chicas in MDE overall beat the Tijuana girls in looks but both are comparable in service levels. For me, price levels at Hong Kong club in Tijuana were quite similar to the price levels at La Isla.

Next time I head to MDE, I will be interested to see the then-current talent at Hotel M, will revisit both La Isla and Fase Dos, and will definitely make time for Casa runs like New Life since I missed those casas this time around.

I love the FKK as well, but there are no reasonable LT options in Germany. I would love to be able to mix up a FKK with LT options like in Colombia.

I went to Hong Kong in March. I don't think we went to the same club because the pricing was nowhere similar. La Isla is 250 k ($121) for an hour (not even sure it's a complete hour) whereas Hong Kong is about $50-60 for half an hour. I guess if you double the rate it is similar, however, I always consider the lowest rate regardless of time. I always choose the lowest time possible and if I want longer, I invite them back to my place. Service levels are a bit different IMO. Colombians are hotter, but in Tijuana. After talking with the girls for 10 minutes, their tongue was already down my throat! You won't get that in Colombia! Also in Tijuana it was hard getting BBBJ, even with an attempted tip. Colombia is a little bit better in that regard. A mixed bag.

About Hotel M, just so you know. Every time they offer $50 rooms, it is low season. There will be less girls. Girls tend to know when it's low season and stay away.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Here I read a somehow different story. Not so much thrill.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...urization.html

Yes I just seeing this now. Not as rapid a decent as the JetBlue FA led us PAX to believe.

[Black Page]

Did anyone else hear anything about this flight today?

Here I read a somehow different story. Not so much thrill.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...urization.html

[Old Parr]

Not been big into this myself, but a buddy is coming with me to Medellin next month and was asking if anyone knows of any girls in Medellin that do [CodeWord100] ([CodeWord137])? HE does this kind of stuff in asia where I guess girls are more open minded.

If anyone knows of any girls that do this kind of stuff please private message me.

Instead of trying to find girls for him, or is it really you?. You should try seeking psychological help for him, as obviously the person wanting this is a a sick with serious mental issues.

[Superboy1]

Not been big into this myself, but a buddy is coming with me to Medellin next month and was asking if anyone knows of any girls in Medellin that do [CodeWord100] ([CodeWord137])? HE does this kind of stuff in asia where I guess girls are more open minded.

If anyone knows of any girls that do this kind of stuff please private message me.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Did anyone else hear anything about this flight today?

I sat in the first row of the JetBlue flight that left at 7:15 AM & saw AA924 taxiing to takeoff position as we were on our way out. We were about halfway into the flight to FLL when the Jetblue flight attendant (FA) told me and the CO passengers on both sides of me plus 2nd row that AA924 had to make an emergency landing in Kingston due to "rapid depressurization". FA telling us I'm sure what was told to him by the Captain, FO and jump seat pilot that the AA pilots had to don their oxygen masks in 3 seconds or they would blackout and then they needed to nosedive down to 10 K ft. In just 15 sec. From 38 K ft. All pretty scary but does appear true.

When I landed in FLL I immediately searched the web for any info. And could not find anything. Later this evening still no info. Out on the web, even the Kingston news. However I did verify and printout where AA924 did land in Kingston when normally doesn't and is still delayed. I just checked AAs timetable and zero stops between MDE and MIA. Why would a plane full of mostly Colombianos and a few Gringos make a regular landing in Kingston??

This could be what it is however since no media coverage (possibly due to Ebola coverage 24/7) just not newsworthy enough. Or could the rapid depressurization quite possibly be due to a terroristic incident? If so may not even be organic (I. E. Internal cartel and guerrilla). I have been seeing more "moros" as of late down there in CO and perhaps they have some type of radical moro group setup. Whatever the case if it was a explosion thinking it had to be an inside job since the security hand inspected each and every item of my checked bag thoroughly twice.

On the mongering experiences I had there will report more later in the week but did New life twice (one good (Katerine) & one mediocre (Maria Jose), did Energy once with Ani (a nice Buenaventura black bunny who provided excellent service), and once in Dulce Compania (good experience with 19 year old Laura).

Regarding the fireworks I discussed previous tread I found out last Mon. Was a festival going on (DIA de la Raza).

Also regarding the prescription medication issues I had I ended up at Clinica Las Vegas where I had a very thorough consultation with a licensed "Shrink" who prescribed what I needed. Just only set me back $120 USA Plus another $120 for the meds. At the Las Vegas Clinic.

Xanax is very definitely a controlled drug and cost the same for 30-1 MG tablets wherever I asked ($60 USA). Plus you need in addition to the Doctor's Rx a separate control form in triplicate that was provided free of charge with the $120 Dr. Consultation fee (how nice of them). But I didn't really need the Xanax, just some muscle relaxant. I took the Xanax Rx since Dr. Offered it and I paying him $120 USA for a legal medical consultation.

As mentioned before and verified 7 X they do not legally sell Soma (Carisprodol) in CO but do they offer other alternatives which are meds also prescribed in USA For patients with seizures / Epilepsy. They offer the same result for those with skeletal-muscular injuries with much less addiction potential. One drug that makes you kinda sleep is Sirdalud (Tizandine) and is much better drug since is not a control drug in USA Or CO but does the job. Do shop around however as Clinica Las Vegas robbed me for $60 when I could of got in an El Centro pharmacy OTC legally for only $16!!

Also when I walked to Energy that one fine afternoon I saw an Orthopedic clinic that I thinking could legally consult and write the Rx for much less than the shrink. I not a big drugger but when have legitimate issues is nice to find honest prices and so wanted to document all this for the brethren here who help very much with solid updated monger gouge.

I like it the juicy poosy very much I like it a lot. Espec. Hand maturbating Ani all I wanted!! She could take it all the beautiful tight hard bodied sista. Thank you all!

[LifeIsABeach]

The federal government can and will use any law they see fit. Otherwise, prepare to have some million dollar lawyers. Be safe and stick to girls over the age of 18 (paid or not!) and not be like that [CodeWord911] from Florida that got arrested (another one. Why are they all from Florida?

They can but they will lose the cases. The Law cannot be changed unless Congress changes it. I just stated the USA laws that apply to USA Citizens and Alien Residents anywhere. You have to use your judgment as the laws are stated. I think FL Miami is where there are many flights to Latin America. They do arrest [CodeWord915] in San Francisco and Los Angeles too. These folks are into children well below 14 years of age. They are breaking laws everywhere and should be arrested. The Feds main interest is the [CodeWord914] and rarely do they chase folks having legal age sex. The Feds know every [CodeWord911] and the sites the [CodeWord915] use and track them.

[ForceSteeler]

This was my first scouting trip to MDE.

I was quite unimpressed with the chica talent level at Hotel M. On the other hand, the service levels of the Hotel M chicas were quite outstanding compared to the chicas found at the MDE clubs. Granted, I wasn't there during full swing of the place and I am fairly picky, but I'the say during my whole 3 night stay, I only saw 2-3 girls I wanted to go to the room with. I heard from other guys that chica attendance was lower than usual the days I was there. On their busiest night I was there, I probably saw about 8 chicas in the bar.

T.

I think you went around a bad time. Its Rain Season so alot of chicas might just choice to stay home especially if they know The Mansion is half full or damn near empty. You can find some pretty good stunners at The Mansion.

[Combo]

Great report Ultra!

I experienced the FKKs for the first time this Summer and had a blast. Definitely something every monger should try once. I love MDE, but if one is used to the FKK experience, you'll find nothing like that. Outside of the FKKs in Germany, have you tried out Sao Paulo, Brasil? Probably the one place I can think of with both high quality and quantity of beautiful girls. But very expensive. Thailand also has numbers and quality if you are into Asians.

I'm thinking your timing in MDE wasn't ideal. The Mansion can be pretty damn good, but it definitely goes through up-and down- phases.

And the school calendar seems to have affected your other sources of talent.

If you weren't that impressed with la Isla and Loutron, you are definitely picky! I'm fairly picky myself, but those two places are usually pretty top shelf.

I doubt you'll find much to your liking in New Life, though there can be "diamonds in the rough" there as well as in the other Centro casas. And given that cost doesn't seem to be an issue for you, it might not be worth your time.

Thanks for your report and give MDE another try in the High Season.

[UltraHappy]

This was my first scouting trip to MDE.

Only after booking my reservation did I realize why Hotel M (formerly known as Casa Blanca and the Mansion) was offering such a killer $50/ night deal in October. October is one of the months of the rainy season (from the end of September until sometime in November). Apparently, the dry months are April and the first half of mid-May and December, January, and February. The weather forecasts showed rain every single day for the three weeks leading up to my weekend in MDE. Luckily, I learned that unlike my home city, a forecast of 100% chance of thunderstorms means that it will only rain 1-3 hours during the day, and usually not all that hard anyways. So, I was relatively pleased with how the weather turned out in the end.

I arrived in Medellin at an odd time. It turns out that school vacation started that same week, so many people, including many of our young working mothers were home with their kids or leaving to be on vacation with their kids.

When I was there, it seemed that the hotel was about half full, both at M1 and M2, though I'm not really sure about the actual attendance numbers -- just a guess on my part.

As has been reported here often, the customer service of the staff was simply outstanding.

I stayed in Room #9 in M1, the smallest room at M1, downstairs below the kitchen. That room worked fine for a first time, short visit, but I will opt for one of the larger rooms next time. Forget about trying to sleep late in Room 9. As soon as people start showing up to breakfast, their morning conversation and activity will wake you. Next time I return to Hotel M, I will again stay at M1, but I will avoid Room 9 (the smallest), Room 10 (the one right next to the Bar, loud at night), and Rooms 3 and 4 (shared bathroom). All the other rooms at M1 looked appealing enough to me.

I will continue to stay at Hotel M the next few times I venture back to MDE on account of the convenience they offer.

The places people hang out at the hotel are the pool, the bar (at night, starting at 6 pm), the kitchen, and the sofas in the lobby area. During the day, you can sometimes find guys sitting by the pool area or in the lobby, waiting on someone or just sitting around. At night around 6 pm, people start showing up in the bar downstairs.

I was quite unimpressed with the chica talent level at Hotel M. On the other hand, the service levels of the Hotel M chicas were quite outstanding compared to the chicas found at the MDE clubs. Granted, I wasn't there during full swing of the place and I am fairly picky, but I'the say during my whole 3 night stay, I only saw 2-3 girls I wanted to go to the room with. I heard from other guys that chica attendance was lower than usual the days I was there. On their busiest night I was there, I probably saw about 8 chicas in the bar.

The breakfast at the hotel was made to order but quite unimpressive and plain. Still, it was a nice time to hang out with the guys in the morning before heading out.

The hotel also has about 30-40 food menus from which you can order out food. The hotel conveniently helps you order and pay for your food, which is conveniently delivered via taxi.

Before this trip, I read a lot about chicas not showing up on time, always being late, or whatever. I didn't have to worry about this since I simply drew from the chicas already available at the hotel, but I always wondered why guys don't simply incentive their chicas to show up on time with bonus payments? If you want your chica to show up on time, why don't you just text her that you'll throw her an extra 100 k if she shows up before 4 pm or 50 k before 4:30 pm, or simply the agreed upon price if she shows up after 4:30 pm? (or whatever prices you think appropriate). Seems to me that a little extra cash would be a real motivator. I haven't tried this but if I wanted to decrease the probability of chicas wasting my limited valuable vacation time, that's the first thought that pops into my head.

One thing I learned running around the city is that you absolutely MUST have the addresses of the places you want to go with you. Simply saying the names of the famous places in town like Energy, La Isla, etc is not enough for the taxis to get you there. Apparently, almost all taxis need a real address. Surprisingly, they don't already know where all our favorite places are. I suppose people must hire taxis in MDE to go to places other than our favorite places. LOL.

Places I visited:

La Isla. Night club. Visited three nights in a row. If you like European girls (like me), then this place has the highest concentration of girls who would do very well even in a German FKK (where I usually go). Very nice talent here at La Isla, easily the best line-up out of anywhere I visited in MDE. Also, one of the most expensive. Prices here almost rival that of the German FKKs but with a generally lower service level (CBJ is standard here and I found kissing to be less prevalent). This place doesn't really get hopping until around 9 or 10 pm or so. I found it pretty busy on Thursday night and Friday night but not busy at all on Saturday night. When I asked why this place wasn't busy on Saturday night like the previous nights, one of my girls explained to me that all the men are with their novias on Saturday night. So, I suppose Weekdays in Colombia are for fucking prostitutes whereas Saturday is reserved for going out with your girlfriend. How nice. Anyways, more working girls for me on Saturday night. I spent quite a bit of time at La Isla with a super cute little petite spinner (4 ft 10 inches incredible little package). At one point in the night, all of the meseros were teasing her about how "rico" she must be making love in bed because I kept taking her to the room over and over and over again.

Club Info: Kilometer 5 Via Las Palmas K28 and Las Palmas. 20 Dancers. Cover 20 k. Tel: 216 58 66. Closes at 3 am. https://www.facebook.com/laisla.club.37. Price: Onsite is 250 K for 50 minutes.

Fase Dos (II).

This club is smaller than La Isla. Not as many chicas and talent level not as high as La Isla but cheaper. I only stopped in for about 20 minutes for a drink with a buddy here on a Friday night just to check the place out. Still, on a Friday night, the club was pretty full and I saw at least 3 chicas I would have went to the room with had I had the time.

Club Info: Carrera 44 # 30-27, behind the Premium Plaza Shopping Center. 30-40 Chicas. http://www.clubfasedos.com/.

FASE II (Dos) = Cover 20 k, Beer, 16 k, Chicas 180 k with their South Beach Hostel rooms next door. Tel: 232 18 78. Hours: 7 pm to 4 am.

Daytime Casas I visited: Energy, Blue Room (4), and Loutron. Picked up a buddy one day from our hotel and hit a few daytime casas. Unfortunately, like I mentioned earlier, because it was a vacation week, chica attendance was down in the daytime casas, I suspect, due to a lot of chicas wanting to be with their kids during school vacation.

Energy. About 10 chicas, none who were to my liking. Keep in mind that I'm pretty picky.

Oddly, Blue Room only had 4 chicas, again, none to my liking. My buddy who was with me said that they had a ton of chicas when HE visited this place before on another prior trip so HE found it odd that they only had 4 chicas on that day.

Loutron. Very nice-looking place out in the middle of nowhere. Massive, beautiful mansion. Girls are 250,000 for one hour. Line-up was around 12 chicas if my memory serves correctly. 10 of them I had no interest in (again, I am very picky), but two of them interested me. One was quite doable (Sara). And the other one who interested me was named Sophia. Sophia was absolutely perfect looking, tight little petite body, blond, 20 years old, just amazing looking. She's the sort of girl I would pounce on at any German FKK (where I do most of my mongering). As it turns out, she was quite inexperienced (reported that she's been working there only about 2 months). I didn't appreciate her fake moaning. When we eventually got to fucking, I really enjoyed myself with her though, and in the end, was left satisfied. The thing I don't like about Loutron is that they have this whole routine they do that starts with a bullshit massage with massage oil routine to waste time. I hate that massage oil shit. Tough to wash off, feels gross to me but whatever.

I asked my girl how much of the 250 k the girls keep. She refused to disclose the amount, explaining that she's not allowed to reveal that. So, I knew that meant that it was probably a shockingly low percentage. My buddy asked the same question to his girl HE went with and she was more forthcoming. According to his girl, the girls only get 30% of the 250 k!

The next day, my buddy went with a local tour operator Medellinpaisa.com for a casa run with another guest from the hotel. HE reported finding a "diamond in the rough" over at New Life who would rival that Sophia chica I met at Loutron. It's too bad I didn't have the time to head out there myself on my last day in town due to a pending afternoon appointment at the hotel.

My subjective rankings compared to a couple of other mongering destinations.

Overall, I would rank the casas and night clubs in MDE lower in service levels compared to my experiences in the German FKKs, but on the other hand, MDE does have some lower price options than the German FKKs. I found the service levels of the Hotel M chicas to rival that of the German FKKs, while the MDE Hotel M chicas had a huge price advantage over the German FKKs.

Comparing the casas and night clubs in MDE to the Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico, I would say that the chicas in MDE overall beat the Tijuana girls in looks but both are comparable in service levels. For me, price levels at Hong Kong club in Tijuana were quite similar to the price levels at La Isla.

Next time I head to MDE, I will be interested to see the then-current talent at Hotel M, will revisit both La Isla and Fase Dos, and will definitely make time for Casa runs like New Life since I missed those casas this time around.

[Hioctane]

This is the USA law:

Many states in the USA have the legal age of consent as low as 16 years of age. A few 17 years and some 18 years of age. The main point in the Federal legal jargon is the word paying. If you are not paying for sex with a person where it is legal to have sex with persons under 18 years, then you have not committed any crimes in that country and the USA.

The Age of Consent really is not the point here. The confusion lies in how you read this law. Legal mumbo-jumbo goes around in circles and is easy to misread if you're not used to reading it. Everyone so far has completely ignored the key term here; "interstate or foreign commerce". If a person is travelling in "foreign commerce", then he or she is going to another country for the purpose of conducting business. Likewise, someone travelling in "interstate commerce" is travelling to another state to conduct some kind of business. Now, with that in mind, lets discuss the 2 parts of this statute.

Part (a) is simple. Anyone who transports a minor (under 18) to another state or country for the purpose of having that person engage in any kind of sexual "business", such as prostitution, has violated this code and committed a crime.

Part (b) is a little more complex but essentially it says that if you travel across state or international lines for the purpose of paying for a sex act (defined in chapter 109 a, subsection 2246, (basically, penetration, oral sex, intercourse)) with a minor (in this case minor may mean under 16 or 18, depending on the specific act), and if the sex act you are paying for is considered a crime under chapter 109 a, subsection 2241-2245 (basically, [CodeWord123], sexual assault, statutory [CodeWord123] (under 16)), then you have committed a crime. You are also guilty if you aren't the one travelling but are a conspirator in the crime.

The Federal government can and will use any law they see fit. Otherwise, prepare to have some million dollar lawyers. Be safe and stick to girls over the age of 18 (paid or not!) and not be like that [CodeWord911] from Florida that got arrested (another one. Why are they all from Florida?

[Combo]

This is news to me, thanks.

In 12 stays at the Mansion over the last 5 years, I've never paid close to 300 k for all-night. A few times, I've paid nothing beyond the initial 150 K. Admittedly, I only do it once or twice per visit, so not a huge sample size. Also, I never negotiate TLN before the session. It's generally if the girl and I are getting along really well and we both feel like continuing the session. Or if she's drunk and just feels like crashing and boning in the morning.

IMO negotiating TLN up front (especially if you've never been with the girl) is unwise. If you don't click with the girl (or if you find out her body is not so nice w / o clothes), you've wasted your whole night.