Medellin Reports

[Mfins]

First let me say Gracias to the last few posters with their reports and for getting us off of the legal mumbo jumbo and what not.

I agree with Vitrea: I've never been quoted a price in USD I think the guy might have been mistaken. 300 K COP is the high end chicka and 400-600 K is what I've heard the Audio Car and Model chicas go for. I don't swim in that deep of water or care for the model looking type so just reporting what my buddies like.

At Vitrea please do report on a BA x Med. I loved my three trips to BA during and after college. It got me into mongering. The selection and quality is amazing especially if you like lighter skinned girls. Full juicy details please on how the scene in BA is right now with tips on Privados and Clubs por favor!

I was quoted in COP but, I am just converting to dollars to make it easier.

The bar fine alone I was told at San Diego was 300,000 pesos. Which either went up tremendously or was a flat out lie by the girls because last year I was able to pull a girl TLN for 300,000 total including bar fine.

Maybe I just picked the wrong girls this time or something. Not sure.

I really am not one to argue over $100 and if the girl was super friendly and i get a good vibe from the girl I would happily pay $400.00 because I know I am going to have a great time but, when these girls are all business and are looking at there watch and quoting extremely high prices its a huge turn off. If they were smart they would at least pretend to like me and call me handsome and make me feel like they want me. I am not nieve and I know it is a game but, it just seems like the colombian girls in Panama or Colombia or wherever are too damn profesional. Someone should go down there and teach them to play the game a little more.. They could make more money and get more clients..

Maybe I will stay at the Mansion. My only reluctance is and please no one take offence to this but it seems like beginner or rookie mongering to me and I like a bit of a challenge. Kind of like going to an exotic vacation place and staying at a sandals or breezes and never leaving the resort to experience the culture.

[Mfins]

I was just there couple of weeks ago. Did at least 8 take outs and no one quoted those prices. I agree that prices went up and I reported as such but not these. Are you sure you did not misunderstand "tres cientos mil" as $300 USD? I typically paid 300,000 to 350,000 for 8's and 9's. That is less than $200 (still a bit more than it used to be).

On a side note, I am currently in Buenos Aires. This place is on a fire sale due to peso devaluation and quality is equally amazing as Medellin and way more quantity. If there is interest, I can post a comparison in the General thread.

I would love the hear about Buenos Aires. I really want to go there. Only thing that stops me is the 11 hour plane ride from Florida.

The quotes I received were for TLN. Not just one hour. However, for one Girl TLN was only 4 hours.

At San Diego the girl told me just the bar fine was $150.00 plus $250 for her. At Fase 2 I was quoted $400 for TLN by one girl and $300 by another. My friend had a girl that was about a 6 or 7 offer $200 for TLN but, HE declined.

Usually when a girl starts off that high in price it completely turns me off and I do not even feel like negotiating it down. In my experience when a girl starts quoting high numbers and starts mentioning time limits and counting hours I just move onto something else and do not even counter with a price. Those girls tend to be the biggest clock watchers and the ones that have too many rules in bed.

[Ricker]

I think Ricker meant to quote Jchipper's Cartagena rip-off post.

Whoops!!

I sure did, thanks!!

[Vitrea]

Spent the week here in Medellin with some great guys from the States as the tour guy, fun times! But when they decided to take a side trip to Cartagena I said count me out as I have a home on Baru in the Rosarios and go there some 8 to 10 times a year. Well, I warned them about the Scams, the Hustlers, the over priceds, and all the Rip off artist that prey on the flesh of the tourist by over pricing everything from Taxi to rides to Fake watches, to beach massages! And they found them all, at dinner last night to get a update on the trip I now feel ashamed I let them go alone. They were Lambs to the slaughter, they were ripped off by a fake tour guide who called himself, Johnny the Fixer' beware this guy is trouble! He told them there was only a tip needed to secure his services for 3 hours, when in fact HE was demanded 400.00 USA when the night was over and told them HE would call his Police friends if they didn't pay up, all the while my American friends had treated him to dinner, drinks in the clubs, and taxi rides all over town. He told them he was the one responsible for the Secret Service shake down and worked as an informant! This guy is bad news A to Z,when he arranged some girls to meet the guys they gave a Gringo price of 100 USA per hour, 1 guy agreed and took her to the hotel for some action, when HE finished she demanded 200 USA, he politely told her the price they agreed to was 100,she then said but I sat with you in the Bar for and hour too, She also made the Police threat, my friend told her go ahead. She had on speed dial 2 Cops and they showed up in 3 minutes at the Club and demanded HE pay her for her work or face going to Jail for assault! As a veteran of Colombia for 10 years I know first hand the horror the Colombian people can bring down on a otherwise great vacation place! The only trouble I have had in my 10 years in Colombia was in Cartagena, camera stolen, sandals ripped off, price gouged on beach massage, money stolen, all in Cartagena. I am no longer the 'No thanks' kind American tourist when I must over night there in route to Baru, I am a rude MFKR when I deal with the natives of Cartagena, I warn everyone who goes there, Buyer Beware' Cartagena.

Agree that CTG is nearly not as friendly as MDE but that is true with many tourist destinations and more so in developing countries. I have had friends that were scammed in Vegas, NY and even in New Orleans. I was scammed too in my naive days. You live and learn. If you let them take you, they will. I would not entirely write off CTG though. I have been there many times and I have a great time every single time. Bit more expensive but different. NEVER ever talk to a tout. If you need info, that is what these forums are for. Spend some time reading the forums before you go to any monger destination and be a DIY monger.

I am shocked to see how many guys spends thousands of $$$ on plane tickets and hotels but don't do any research. Most depend on Taxi drivers and touts for information.

[Vitrea]

Good warning.

Cartagena, being the toursit capital, is full of scammers like you say.

I have fun there, and there's lots of fun to be had.

I've been around a while too, so I know when and where and what to avoid and run and when I'm being taken.

Thanks for the general heads up.

I think Ricker meant to quote Jchipper's Cartagena rip-off post.

[Ricker]

First let me say Gracias to the last few posters with their reports and for getting us off of the legal mumbo jumbo and what not.

I agree with Vitrea: I've never been quoted a price in USD I think the guy might have been mistaken. 300 K COP is the high end chicka and 400-600 K is what I've heard the Audio Car and Model chicas go for. I don't swim in that deep of water or care for the model looking type so just reporting what my buddies like.

At Vitrea please do report on a BA x Med. I loved my three trips to BA during and after college. It got me into mongering. The selection and quality is amazing especially if you like lighter skinned girls. Full juicy details please on how the scene in BA is right now with tips on Privados and Clubs por favor!

Good warning.

Cartagena, being the toursit capital, is full of scammers like you say.

I have fun there, and there's lots of fun to be had.

I've been around a while too, so I know when and where and what to avoid and run and when I'm being taken.

Thanks for the general heads up.

[SlamCity7777]

I was just there couple of weeks ago. Did at least 8 take outs and no one quoted those prices. I agree that prices went up and I reported as such but not these. Are you sure you did not misunderstand "tres cientos mil" as $300 USD? I typically paid 300,000 to 350,000 for 8's and 9's. That is less than $200 (still a bit more than it used to be).

On a side note, I am currently in Buenos Aires. This place is on a fire sale due to peso devaluation and quality is equally amazing as Medellin and way more quantity. If there is interest, I can post a comparison in the General thread.

First let me say Gracias to the last few posters with their reports and for getting us off of the legal mumbo jumbo and what not.

I agree with Vitrea: I've never been quoted a price in USD I think the guy might have been mistaken. 300 K COP is the high end chicka and 400-600 K is what I've heard the Audio Car and Model chicas go for. I don't swim in that deep of water or care for the model looking type so just reporting what my buddies like.

At Vitrea please do report on a BA x Med. I loved my three trips to BA during and after college. It got me into mongering. The selection and quality is amazing especially if you like lighter skinned girls. Full juicy details please on how the scene in BA is right now with tips on Privados and Clubs por favor!

[Jchipper]

Spent the week here in Medellin with some great guys from the States as the tour guy, fun times! But when they decided to take a side trip to Cartagena I said count me out as I have a home on Baru in the Rosarios and go there some 8 to 10 times a year. Well, I warned them about the Scams, the Hustlers, the over priceds, and all the Rip off artist that prey on the flesh of the tourist by over pricing everything from Taxi to rides to Fake watches, to beach massages! And they found them all, at dinner last night to get a update on the trip I now feel ashamed I let them go alone. They were Lambs to the slaughter, they were ripped off by a fake tour guide who called himself, Johnny the Fixer' beware this guy is trouble! He told them there was only a tip needed to secure his services for 3 hours, when in fact HE was demanded 400.00 USA when the night was over and told them HE would call his Police friends if they didn't pay up, all the while my American friends had treated him to dinner, drinks in the clubs, and taxi rides all over town. He told them he was the one responsible for the Secret Service shake down and worked as an informant! This guy is bad news A to Z,when he arranged some girls to meet the guys they gave a Gringo price of 100 USA per hour, 1 guy agreed and took her to the hotel for some action, when HE finished she demanded 200 USA, he politely told her the price they agreed to was 100,she then said but I sat with you in the Bar for and hour too, She also made the Police threat, my friend told her go ahead. She had on speed dial 2 Cops and they showed up in 3 minutes at the Club and demanded HE pay her for her work or face going to Jail for assault! As a veteran of Colombia for 10 years I know first hand the horror the Colombian people can bring down on a otherwise great vacation place! The only trouble I have had in my 10 years in Colombia was in Cartagena, camera stolen, sandals ripped off, price gouged on beach massage, money stolen, all in Cartagena. I am no longer the 'No thanks' kind American tourist when I must over night there in route to Baru, I am a rude MFKR when I deal with the natives of Cartagena, I warn everyone who goes there, Buyer Beware' Cartagena.

[Combo]

Ultra Happy: Very good report. I monger in MDE quite a bit I monger more in Germany. I know what you are talking about and agree. Re late arrivals, please don't offer them money to be on time. That is laid back Latin american culture and we learn to live with it. What I do though, is always ask them to come 30 minutes to an hour before you really want them to come. How far ahead I ask her to come depends where she lives and if she is planning on taking a taxi or metro taxi combo. In four years of doing this, only once was the girl waiting for me at my apartment before I got there as she was only 30 minutes late (and I guessed 1 HR). Interestingly she did not care. She understood and said I am turning into a Colombian. Also, you are right on about Slow Saturdays at the chica clubs. The regular discos are happening though. Next time, fix up a girl from earlier nights to go out on Saturday night. That is what I do and it is crazy party scene. Even if you don't, the girls know where to go.

HiOctane: you hit the nail on the head. I love FKKs but no reasonably priced LT options. I have recently figured out how to make my own parties in NRW FKKs and that has been great but still costs way more money. Also, managed to meet a few FKK girls outside of work but mucho dinero.

Cocr Brotheler: Dude, clinica Vegas sounds like a rip off. $160 for doc appointment? Thanks for reporting.

I love Medellin.

Great advice. I've learned to do the same thing. If I want chica A to come over at 7 PM, I tell her 6:30 PM and on average it works out about right.

[Vitrea]

Ultra Happy: Very good report. I monger in MDE quite a bit I monger more in Germany. I know what you are talking about and agree. Re late arrivals, please don't offer them money to be on time. That is laid back Latin american culture and we learn to live with it. What I do though, is always ask them to come 30 minutes to an hour before you really want them to come. How far ahead I ask her to come depends where she lives and if she is planning on taking a taxi or metro taxi combo. In four years of doing this, only once was the girl waiting for me at my apartment before I got there as she was only 30 minutes late (and I guessed 1 HR). Interestingly she did not care. She understood and said I am turning into a Colombian. Also, you are right on about Slow Saturdays at the chica clubs. The regular discos are happening though. Next time, fix up a girl from earlier nights to go out on Saturday night. That is what I do and it is crazy party scene. Even if you don't, the girls know where to go.

HiOctane: you hit the nail on the head. I love FKKs but no reasonably priced LT options. I have recently figured out how to make my own parties in NRW FKKs and that has been great but still costs way more money. Also, managed to meet a few FKK girls outside of work but mucho dinero.

Cocr Brotheler: Dude, clinica Vegas sounds like a rip off. $160 for doc appointment? Thanks for reporting.

I love Medellin.

[Superboy1]

Instead of trying to find girls for him, or is it really you?. You should try seeking psychological help for him, as obviously the person wanting this is a a sick with serious mental issues.

Calm down. The way I see it is that HE is not harming anyone with his fetish. 'Everyone to there own' as they say.

[Vitrea]

Just returned from a quick 3 day trip to MDE. Without going into llong details, and just offering a general observation the woman in Medellin are just absolutely gorgeous. It had been about a year since I was last in Medellin and I forgot just how pretty the girls are. I am talking about the girls in the mall, resteraunts, walking around the streets. Just plain beauty.

As far as the clubs go, San Diego, Luna Lunera, La Isla and Face 2 there was some talent but, the prices seem to have been really out of wack this trip. I was quoted $300, $400 and $500 for take out. Seems much higher than I remember.

Also, just from talking with the girls there was not going to be any GFE.

I will definitely be going back to Medellin in the future as the city and woman are great but, I need to try another tactic other than the overpriced clubs.

I was just there couple of weeks ago. Did at least 8 take outs and no one quoted those prices. I agree that prices went up and I reported as such but not these. Are you sure you did not misunderstand "tres cientos mil" as $300 USD? I typically paid 300,000 to 350,000 for 8's and 9's. That is less than $200 (still a bit more than it used to be).

On a side note, I am currently in Buenos Aires. This place is on a fire sale due to peso devaluation and quality is equally amazing as Medellin and way more quantity. If there is interest, I can post a comparison in the General thread.

[Mfins]

Just returned from a quick 3 day trip to MDE. Without going into llong details, and just offering a general observation the woman in Medellin are just absolutely gorgeous. It had been about a year since I was last in Medellin and I forgot just how pretty the girls are. I am talking about the girls in the mall, resteraunts, walking around the streets. Just plain beauty.

As far as the clubs go, San Diego, Luna Lunera, La Isla and Face 2 there was some talent but, the prices seem to have been really out of wack this trip. I was quoted $300, $400 and $500 for take out. Seems much higher than I remember.

Also, just from talking with the girls there was not going to be any GFE.

I will definitely be going back to Medellin in the future as the city and woman are great but, I need to try another tactic other than the overpriced clubs.

[UltraHappy]

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos...x-tourism.html

Federal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age).

Not so fast. Your link was helpful in pointing us to the actual USC code.

18 USC 2423 does not prohibit "any form of sexual conduct with a minor". Instead, it prohibits "illicit sexual conduct" in foreign countries with minors (or traveling to a foreign country with an intent to engage in "illicit sexual conduct".

What is "illicit sexual conduct" you ask? For this, we must look to the definition of "illicit sexual conduct" in 18 USC 2423 (f), which provides:

(1) it has to be a violation of Ch. 109 A with a person under 18, or.

(2) a commercial sex act with someone under 18.

What are violations of Chapter 109 A you ask? Chapter 109 A has been codified in the United States Code as 18 USC 2241 and following. Here is one link: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...100-Pg3660.pdf.

Chapter 109 A violations are things like Aggravated Sexual Abuse, Sexual Abuse, etc. You have to read each section under 109 A to understand what constitutes violations under that chapter, but it's stuff like forcing someone to have sex with violence or threat of violence or having sex with a kid 15 or younger (in other words who hasn't yet attained the age of 16).

So, in brief summary, if you aren't paying for it and if you aren't engaging in any Chapter 109 A violations, I don't see any violation of these provisions.

[San Te]

They can but they will lose the cases. The Law cannot be changed unless Congress changes it. I just stated the USA laws that apply to USA Citizens and Alien Residents anywhere. You have to use your judgment as the laws are stated. I think FL Miami is where there are many flights to Latin America. They do arrest [CodeWord915] in San Francisco and Los Angeles too. These folks are into children well below 14 years of age. They are breaking laws everywhere and should be arrested. The Feds main interest is the [CodeWord914] and rarely do they chase folks having legal age sex. The Feds know every [CodeWord911] and the sites the [CodeWord915] use and track them.

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos...x-tourism.html

Ederal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age).