Medellin Reports

[ColombiaLover]

Hence the reason the girls think every gringo will pay them an outrageous amount. To each his own. $250 USD is huge money for a colombiana in one day. One month's salary at the minimum. I can't imagine what a girl would have to look like and perform like to pay her that much. But everyone has their own philosophy.

The 500 k is for her time, so yes she would still be considered a prepago. Food and transportation isn't included in that, but again, this is Medellin, it's hard to spend more than 200 k on lunch / dinner unless you're specifically going for fancy places. And transportation? Uber / taxis cost like 10-20 k to go halfway into the city from Poblado or Laureles, who cares? If I spend the equivalent of $250 USD to spend an entire day and night with a cute college girl, going out and having fun in and out of the bedroom, that's awesome. $250 USD will get you nowhere in the US, that's the way I see it.

[Joe Bandit]

Bought my tickets, and realized that I'll be flying out of MDE, early Monday morning at 5 am. Are there any locations that do testing on Sunday for the 24 HR requirements?

I couldn't find much information on the airport testing at MDE, is that open 24 hours? Would I be able to get to the airport at 2 in the morning and just get a test there? Thanks in advance.

[Kafka]

Call me superstitious when I travel or maybe I've just watched too many movies. But when you're getting substances from people you don't know and giving them to people you don't really know Bad things can happen. You can tell the police whatever you want and they're going to accuse you of it anyway. So get ready to fork some serious cash.

[Steve 9696]

As someone who just got back from Colombia, price was not an issue. The exchange rate is so good it was like Monopoly money to me. My problem was the girls were just not that attractive, hardened, and older looking. I hope my Brazil trip is better. Who knows, maybe it's just pussy fatigue syndrome that you get after 20 years of mongering. If you can't afford Medellin now, you need to wife up in the states and call it a career like Tom Brady did.

You talking club girls? Or Facebook girls?

[Md955]

The 500 K is the "pre-paid" or the expensive of food, traveling expense? Sounds good but that college girl is still a "pre-paid", right?

The 500 k is for her time, so yes she would still be considered a prepago. Food and transportation isn't included in that, but again, this is Medellin, it's hard to spend more than 200 k on lunch / dinner unless you're specifically going for fancy places. And transportation? Uber / taxis cost like 10-20 k to go halfway into the city from Poblado or Laureles, who cares? If I spend the equivalent of $250 USD to spend an entire day and night with a cute college girl, going out and having fun in and out of the bedroom, that's awesome. $250 USD will get you nowhere in the US, that's the way I see it.

[Kafka]

I agree, but tell that to the police if a chica ioverdoses at your place and you provided her with substances. Perhaps she just has a bad reaction. Shit happens.

First of all, not all drugs are the same. Heroin is not penicillin. Oxygen is a drug. Water will kill you if you drink too much from hyponatremia, among other electrolyte imbalances. Room air, or the air you normally breathe is only 21% oxygen. Most of what you respire is nitrogen. 100% oxygen is toxic due to the damage done by the caustic and abrasive singlet oxygen free radicals.

BTW, this is all off the top of my head, maybe you can find errors if you are so inclined, jeje.

We are at a tipping point in the history of pharmaceutical drugs right now. Elon Musk sees it when he toys with his detractors about his marijuana use. The pharmaceutical companies are poised. Cannabis clinics flourish and now there are IV ketamine clinics.

Heroin is not alcohol, cigarettes are not cannabis, crack is not methamphetamine.

Yet again, I am presenting from a viewpoint of education, background, personal and professional experience. But I don't like to talk about intelligence or credentials unless it's a professional setting (someone's getting paid for their advice) because I believe concepts should stand on their own.

Intelligence is the most overrated human characteristic of all time.

There is a huge difference between addiction and dependence and recreational use. I go pretty soft on the people who lump all recreational drugs as "bad and evil" because usually they have intense negative personal experiences with family members. Daddy hit mommy after drinking. Sister stole from everyone to support her habit. Little Johnny had to watch his mom turn tricks to get money for dope. You get the idea. That is some pretty heavy duty environmental influence leading to bias.

Speaking of bias, guess what the greatest bias and prejudice of all time is?

Reality bias. Reality is for people who can't handle their drugs, jajajajjaaja.

Ostee Out, more to come.

[PepolesBuddy]

Happy Wednesday all,

With the pandemic I don't know what's open or closed anymore. Which swinger club is your favorite and why? Do you all know the cover charges to these places?

Club Swinger.

https://www.theclubswinger.com/

This was my go to spot. Cover used to be free before 10 pm.

La piscina? Aka laureles.

CL. 52 ##73-46, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Sweet dreams? Aka ubp.

Av. 33 #75 see 66 Segundo Piso, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Sentir club swinger? Aka belen.

Calle 30#80-56, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Club swinger open minded?

This one is all the way out in san jeronimo.

[DriftClouds]

But what you will miss out on are many hidden extras that you only get when a girl has a good time in your company. I've had girls wanting to stay the night at no extra cost but plenty of extra sex, girls hanging out for hours just chilling and fucking, again no extra cost, girls doing many extra 'services' for no extra cost that were not agreed before hand but they wanted to do because they enjoyed the vibe and were having a nice time. You can absolutely pay for all this but that way always feels a lot more mechanical to me, having a girl get ready to leave then unzip your trousers to give you one last impromptu blow job before she heads out is a hell of a lot better than giving her 50 k to do it..

You let them stay overnight, you aren't afraid of them steal from you? Or even kidnap you (the gang they might know)?

[DriftClouds]

Okay so this is completely subjective, but for me when I travel to monger, I'm usually traveling alone. I might make some friends off of ISG and meet up sometimes, but for the most part, we're all doing our own thing. Some days I'll spend most of the day on my own, going from casa to casa and fucking whatever chicas are there that interest me. Other days where I have no plans, I'll walk around, head to a mall, sit down and browse the internet for an hour or two on my phone or tablet, and sometimes meet a nice looking waitress or meet someone sitting by me, buy them a drink (it's Colombia, it's cheap as fuck) and chat with them. I know from the way I look that I can't pull a girl without a lot of effort and / or time on my part, so I try to steer the conversation over to me telling them I'm American and just visiting a short while, and asking if they have plans later or if they want to exchange numbers. This lets them know I'm not there to get into anything serious, I'm not there for long, and it's an opportunity for them to make some quick decent money on the side.

What does this bring me? A girl who will most likely go out with me on a date or two, maybe go together on walks, and have someone to eat lunch or dinner with at a restaurant. And the best part? The girl will go back to my place, we'll spend more time together, have some fun. The built up chemistry just makes things way more fun. And the time with her will most likely be way, way cheaper than paying girls by the hour at casas or off websites..

The 500 K is the "pre-paid" or the expensive of food, traveling expense? Sounds good but that college girl is still a "pre-paid", right?

[TjBrazil]

It appears you failed to complete high school in either country, and you certainly didn't pass economics.

Point 1. Excessive supply drives prices down.

Point 2. Anyone seriously concerned about a minor increase in the price of Colombian chicas in an economy where there are $4000 COP to $1 USD isn't someone who has a right to be taken seriously.

As someone who just got back from Colombia, price was not an issue. The exchange rate is so good it was like Monopoly money to me. My problem was the girls were just not that attractive, hardened, and older looking. I hope my Brazil trip is better. Who knows, maybe it's just pussy fatigue syndrome that you get after 20 years of mongering. If you can't afford Medellin now, you need to wife up in the states and call it a career like Tom Brady did.

[Sargon76]

Remember the old saying "Treat a working girl like a lady, and a lady like a working girl".

That's how I roll and it has provided me with fun times and much enjoyment.

I like the GFE / PSE thing. I am looking for some illusion, some mental enjoyment and just some fun.

That doesn't mean that I don't just love getting physical with a filthy, dirty girl. It just means we are both going to have good time. If that means providing, dinner, snacks, drinks, party favors, toys, what ever, I am down as long as the cost is within reason for me.

Not everyone enjoying this hobby needs or wants that, for some guys its about accumulating a body count, for others they just want to get it without the BS, for some it is about power, others it's about bang for your buck.

Whatever, you do you, all are valid motivations for what we do.

I feel that I get my best value from an experience more like what Osteoknot gets up to.

Calling into question how others get enjoyment from our hobby is folly.

In the end we all just want to get the poontang.

Frankly, I want to lick, stick, screw and cornhole every hot chicka that will stand still long enough for me to do so. That's the main plan for the upcoming trip and a huge shout out to all of you for assisting in this.

[Md955]

To me, that's like you entertaining her. You're paying so you don't have to do any of that. Now, drinking a glass of wine as she massages you could be fine. Share a beer with your friends, not prepagos.

Okay so this is completely subjective, but for me when I travel to monger, I'm usually traveling alone. I might make some friends off of ISG and meet up sometimes, but for the most part, we're all doing our own thing. Some days I'll spend most of the day on my own, going from casa to casa and fucking whatever chicas are there that interest me. Other days where I have no plans, I'll walk around, head to a mall, sit down and browse the internet for an hour or two on my phone or tablet, and sometimes meet a nice looking waitress or meet someone sitting by me, buy them a drink (it's Colombia, it's cheap as fuck) and chat with them. I know from the way I look that I can't pull a girl without a lot of effort and / or time on my part, so I try to steer the conversation over to me telling them I'm American and just visiting a short while, and asking if they have plans later or if they want to exchange numbers. This lets them know I'm not there to get into anything serious, I'm not there for long, and it's an opportunity for them to make some quick decent money on the side.

What does this bring me? A girl who will most likely go out with me on a date or two, maybe go together on walks, and have someone to eat lunch or dinner with at a restaurant. And the best part? The girl will go back to my place, we'll spend more time together, have some fun. The built up chemistry just makes things way more fun. And the time with her will most likely be way, way cheaper than paying girls by the hour at casas or off websites.

This also ties into Tinder / Facebook / Instagram. I've got tons of girls I've met through the apps and I'll have my pick of the litter when I touch down in Medellin next month. I already have one university girl lined up to stay with me for a few nights, for only 500 thousand COP per day, and she'll pretty much do what I want. You can't really beat that.

[El Viajero]

It is expected of these women to provide good sex. That's why I'm paying. Zero entertaining has to happen from my end, nor shall it. I'm paying her (more if necessary) for good service. That's totally independent from everything else. If she expects you to do that it's a trait of a chica that is likely to not service you well. I'd sooner pass her up. This is why it's important to gauge their agreeableness in the opening negotiations.

It's worth noting also that some guys just want to feel like the girl actually likes them, and will put their personality out there more to feel good about themselves. I have no such interests.

I don't post enough but just wanted to point out how short sighted this approach is. You can absolutely pay for good sex, a simple exchange of money for services and there is no limit of chicas offering that in Colombia (or any part of the world). But what you will miss out on are many hidden extras that you only get when a girl has a good time in your company. I've had girls wanting to stay the night at no extra cost but plenty of extra sex, girls hanging out for hours just chilling and fucking, again no extra cost, girls doing many extra 'services' for no extra cost that were not agreed before hand but they wanted to do because they enjoyed the vibe and were having a nice time. You can absolutely pay for all this but that way always feels a lot more mechanical to me, having a girl get ready to leave then unzip your trousers to give you one last impromptu blow job before she heads out is a hell of a lot better than giving her 50 k to do it.

Put it this way, you ever chill in a bar and get along with the bar staff and they give you a free shot? Generally feels better than paying for it, but maybe that's just me. Worth noting I'm not aiming for those 9's, prefer a little hotty who's a 7 or 8 who I can chill with and then go wild with in the cama, the service is usually much better in my experience but that's just me.

[JjBee62]

Very interesting discussion on this supply and demand vs Inflation.

Well I am counting days / hours to reach Colombia this weekend after 2 years of isolation.

After getting the feedback from many members, I am having second thoughts of cancelling 4 points by Sheraton (pablado) and book San peter hotel in Laureles.

Unfortunately the rooms are sold out for Feb 20-25 dates. That means demand is really pent up for at least guest friendly hotels.

Now back to love motels, by keeping the current Sheraton as is and take the FB girls to the nearest love motel would be the best option at this time unless experts give any other suggestion.

Not interested in short term rental and would be better of to take the love motel but the cost quickly adds up by maintaining two accommodations where I might end up bringing only one FB girl a day or repeat the same person for few days if I like them. So far few chics contacted and pretty much all have kids though they are pretty young looking (from FB pics), so I highly doubt they even stay for the entire night.

On this topic, first time chatting with FB girls for this dead and no one has announced / asked their price and I did not disclosed from my side either. Is it normal to have the session for few hours and pay them while they are leaving even without confirming the price upfront? (after reading few blogs. Depends on the GFE experience I am getting ready to pay 150 k to 200 k range)..

You can try Lifeafar, Poblado Suites. They have chica friendly rentals in Poblado at fairly reasonable prices. No personal experience with them, but someone on ISG has stayed there.

If you are going with the Love Motel option, Las Cabanas is probably the closest to the Parque Lleras area. However, if you're getting in a taxi already, you might as well take another 5-10 minutes and go to Motel Ibiza. It's not too far, the rooms are excellent and the price is around 100 k for 6 hours (just over $25), plus whatever you get from the mini bar.

All rooms have a jacuzzi, sound system, stripper pole, very nice rainfall shower plus a refrigerator full of various drinks, along with bubble bath for the jacuzzi, lube, condoms, some snacks and some basic sex toys. There's also a full catalog of toys, lingerie and even costumes, along with a full menu. All interaction is through a cabinet in the room, where they bring anything you order and the bill when you're finished. Entry, the taxi pulls up to a video board, you tell them whether or not you want a room with a sauna, or just one with the jacuzzi. They will give you a room number, taxi drives around to the flashing sign with that number, you get out, go in the open door, push the button to close the door and go upstairs. You're locked in until you pay the bill. There's no face to face interaction, unless they still have a security guard at the gate checking cedulas.

I've probably taken 20 girls there and they all ooh and ahh over it.

It's probably best to clarify a price before heading to a room. Many Facebook girls will bring it up, to make sure you know it's not free. There are 2 main camps on this. Some say you tell the girl what you will pay. To me that might be a problem. If the girl is hoping for a lot more than you offer, it's often over before you start. However, if you ask Cuanto quieres? Whatever she answers you're still in the game.

For example, if she throws out "400", but you don't want to go over 200 k, you can respond with:

"400 mil pesos? Que rico amor, te entiendo. Pero siempre pago 200 Mill por un rato. Quizas encuentro te un otro theía."

"400 thousand pesos (on the chance she means dollars)? How wonderful (how rich, but the meaning is closer to wonderful), but I always pay 200 thousand pesos (un rato is an indefinite time. It could be 45 minutes or 3 hours). Perhaps I can meet you another day."

This accomplishes a few things. First, it defines that you're talking in pesos, not dollars. It tells her you're experienced and know the market and it allows her to save face. She can gracefully back out, or she can lower her price. While she probably won't come down to 200 k, there's a good chance at 250 k. You can decide if you want to part with another $13.

You can substitute whatever numbers you're comfortable with.

[Jimbox]

Mr. E was referring to puta economics, which generally work in reverse of normal economics. For example, in Thailand, despite it making no sense, girls increase their prices during periods of time when customers are in short supply, thinking they have to get more from the customers that are there. Yes. This makes no sense economically. But. Since when do women do anything that makes sense.

Oh yes yes Puta economics. A brand new field of economics. I believe the father of this new field is Professor Ostee. He certainly has a lot of empirical data and awesome stories with pictures. I wouldn't mind taking a class in Puta economics from Prof Ostee.