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  1. #29879
    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas.

    KK.
    It's a saying in Colombia, LOL.
    I found this explanation below:

    "Dar papaya".

    This phrase is extremely common in Colombia. I am not sure how this phrase first began, and it has always seemed a bit strange to me. Literally, "dar papaya" means "to give papaya. " However, when you hear someone say, "no des papaya," they are not telling you to "not give someone papaya. " They are actually telling you to be carefulto not set yourself up or make yourself an easy target. Most often, you will hear this when people want to warn you about theft. For instance, leaving money out on your desk at work while you go to the WC. Would be "dando papaya. " Or, if you are going to the downtown areas of Colombia, using your brand new iPhone while in the street markets would be "dando papaya. " In both cases, you are setting yourself up for something to be taken from youyou are making yourself an obvious target

  2. #29878
    Quote Originally Posted by BayMonger  [View Original Post]
    First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

    Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

    Finally booked a Medelland trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

    Question. How is Medelln during this time?

    I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

    I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

    Appreciate your insight.
    Welcome to the ISG and the guys here can welcome you and give you much better tips than I. I rarely give papayas to any one either just like to buy them sliced up from the locals help them out a little rather cheap to buy and refreshing but I think you might have meant propinas. I never did Tijuana much rather hundreds of trips to the MX border towns on the TX border but ours went to shit, lots of CR, plenty in the Spanish brothels more so in BCN and tons of Colombian girls in the Dutch Antilles ( Mainly SXM) and recently a few trips a year to PTY but kicking myself for those considering a little longer journey I could have gone right to the source but the language school I was working with was there but I see one very good one near this El Poblano area and my teacher here (from Medellin) knows the staff.

    I am starting out with a short trip for 5 days as my goal is to return if I like it and I currently for the last three years have been going to Germany monthly for 5-12 days but than have three weeks of nothing here so MDE I am hoping will be a good cheap (er) way to fill in the gaps. FWIW I have been comparing the FB profiles of many of the girls down there to the FKK girls and I think the ones down there have an edge in looks as they seem to rely more on natural beauty where the Romanian ones (80- 90 percent the work force in GER) seem to rely much more on the snapshat and other programs filters. I think after all my travels it is safe to say no matter what our ' resumes' are they can help us but any new place will involve a learning curve, a few mistakes and to just keep it simple. The guys here can probably best coach you on your proposed itinerary.

    I plan to keep my maiden voyage 'simple' and do 5 days. I will go Monday to Friday as I am told weekends can be hit or miss as the girls are with their boyfriends / loverboys / pimps sometimes all one in the same. I plan to stay at the advise of some in this forum from posts as well as guys who know my exact style, type of girls, desire, service levels, spending habits etc who know me personally or from my posts on the GER forums to stay at this Hotel M ( if still open) for my first trip. I think (am told) you will find it similar yet different to the setup at SL in SJ / CR if you ever stayed there. I am also told to complement it with this club FASO (sp?) as they tell me that the LU at Faso is equal to the top 20-50 percentile in the FKK Clubs and that there is another club in MDE (more money) that matches up to the top 20 percentile in FKK clubs in Hessen.

    I wish you a good time on your trip. I had a bunch of WhatsApps from girls down there in my phone I accumulated from PTY but each and everyone of them asked me for money so just like on the other side of the ocean my refusal to send money was met with being blocked

    Some things don't change! And your Spanish should help a tad at least it has with me in my travels, no sitting there passing the phones back and forth and can only speak from my own experiences the girls seem to appreciate being able to speak in their native tongue more and have a better time if with a guy they can talk to easier (just my opinion, I could be wrong).

    Buen viaje!

    And to the guy who posted about GER beating out MDE I can not say it will beat it out as we are all different but it can offer a unique experience you may not find anywhere else in the world and many more options than just the FKK Clubs to have fun. PM me if you want. Worth one trip to get it in the books.

    And Happy Memorial Day to any vets down there.

    KK.

  3. #29877
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K.
    My mistake. I must have read it wrong. I read it as you would pay chicks 200K for a session. These chicks are really poor and desperate and have no choice but to make a living selling sex, which they rather not do. Other punters should not ask chicks to accept less that what they had previously given them because that is a punishment for these chicks who have no future. Sometimes you would get freebies from these chicks that you customarily pay 200K to. Now in this post you are just hanging out and no freebies or reduced rate is involved. I do not remember anyone in any post mentioning or alluding to treating anyone bad or even worse, like horse manure.

    Who said the chick had to reduce her price? She is free to decline as the OP said that 2 chicks did in the first place. What if he had contacted the chick to pay her the 150K same as before and the chick had said no. Now I must get paid 200K. Would you jump down her throat about trying to charge more than he was giving her before? Or is this a case of all fault falls on the rich foreign monger?

  4. #29876
    First time poster, thank you all for the tips.

    Seasoned monger here. Costa Rica x2, Panama, DR x2, Tijuana all my life.

    Finally booked a Medellíand trip. Over Thanksgiving. 10 nights.

    Question. How is Medellín during this time?

    I'm thinking 5 nights in Laureles and 5 in El Poblado. Any objections to that?

    I speak decent Spanish, enough to get by. And I don't dar papaya to anyone.

    Appreciate your insight.

  5. #29875
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

    .
    Mr E has a poin. You just don't know why. I don't have his answer but what I know is this. If you are in a divorce in front of the judge dividing asset. The judge only looks at numbers, he will not care how you treat each other at all because that is not written in law. If you deal with accountant or attorneys often, you will tend to agree with Mr E from that perspective.

  6. #29874
    So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

    I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

    Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

    If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

    Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

    I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.
    .

  7. #29873
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWitch  [View Original Post]
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.
    Although I don't know his definition but women in Thailand don't all look the same. It is not difficult to find a woman with very distinct facial feature that can be considered exotic looking and beautiful.

    Thailand also has more variety of services like sexual massage, soapy and they are cleaner and their service level are much better than anything I have seen in South America. You can also just walk around after midnight near Nana and Cowboy and there are full of people. There are also several international chain hotels right in the middle of it, and you can just walk out of hotel door, pick a puta on a street or Thermae, walk back to your hotel all within 30 minutes.

  8. #29872
    Quote Originally Posted by KillaCam11  [View Original Post]
    I'the rather never set foot in Bogota ever again. I want to go to Manizales / Periera for a few days and find the untapped paisa talent. I'the imagine it being much economical compared to any of the 4 major cities.
    Almost ALL of the real hot girls from Manizales leave and go to the big cities to work because they know that they can make much more money there than they can hustling in Manizales, not enough men with money to pay them what they can make in Cartagena etc. Manizales has plenty of cheap pussy just like any city but they aren't the "A" team, the "A" team is working in a big city and come home to Manizales to visit family and holidays. That said, Manizales is a big college town so there are a shit ton of hot girls there but you better have good spanish skills and game because they aren't working girls and there are plenty of young chicos to satisfy their needs, otherwise you are much better off hunting in one of the big cities. Not much to do there either, clean and relatively safe, weather is iffy and not really more economical. Worth the visit but don't expect some mongering utopia.

  9. #29871
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWitch  [View Original Post]
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.
    I don't think the time of year makes much difference, perhaps you weren't in the right places or spent much time there. In my post I wasn't only referring to "Exotic" as meaning the appearance of the women but also sexually as well. Perhaps if you visit Thailand again you will find something you like, I've always had a great time there but with it being so far away and being so hot and humid much of the year my preference is Medellin.

  10. #29870

    Calf area in San Diego.

    Hi,

    Just beginning my hopeful long mongering career. Where exactly is this are located? I would really like to get a young 18-25 girl for GFE fun during my time at Medellin, and if isn't too much trouble what is the best approach with girls I this Area?

  11. #29869
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    The answer to your question really depends on your personal tastes. If you have lots of money and time and your exposure to PFP has been limited to Latinas than I would suggest for your next trip you go to Thailand and the Philippines. Two totally different places with nothing in common with one another except they are very far away to travel to.

    For GFE in my opinion the Philippines is hard to beat.

    For exotic women in my opinion, Thailand is great with exceptional food.

    For Thailand I would recommend Bangkok and Pattya. For the Philippines I would recommend Angeles City and perhaps Manila.

    After you have visited to these two countries you may have a totally different outlook on what you like, ie.

    You may never want to come back to Medellin after going to one of these countries.

    For me personally Medellin is hard to beat, close to the USA, exceptional weather, beautiful women, and inexpensive.
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.

  12. #29868
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure?
    Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

    I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist.
    Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

    If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.
    Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

    I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.

  13. #29867
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.
    I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure? It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist. She's still winning and it's good business for her. Some do try to take advantage but so what? It's never that expensive and the upside is you have actual friends to see. But that's no excuse for the guy that only intends to see a girl one time to hold her over a barrel because he thinks he's playing hard ball. IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.

  14. #29866
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money.
    I like to pay a girl what she's worth. Their's a lot I would miss out on if I was perceived as tight. Nobody likes to walk into a market and be exploited by an experienced and greedy trader.

  15. #29865

    A few questions.

    Hi,

    Got a few questions.

    What's the fee on the BBVA and other major banks ATMs? My bank charges 1% plus whatever the local bank charges so I'm trying to balance not having too much cash with minimizing fees.

    What does it mean when an Instagram account has photos of multiple women, I thought Instagram was one account per person? I can't tell for sure but it looks like there are accounts set up that "promote" various women. I ask because I've seen a couple of these where I know that one of them is a prepago, so can I infer that they are all prepagos?

    When the women on FB or Instagram make the "peace" sign, is that supposed to indicate 200 mil? It seems like I only see them making the sign when wearing sexy lingerie or standing in front of a bed.

    Which brings me to my last question of the day. Do civilian paisas post pictures of themselves in lingerie sitting on beds? I realize there are cultural differences but I'm seeing women on FB that will have a picture of a family birthday party followed by a very suggestive near-nude lingerie photo? It's strange to me that these girls would want their friends and family to see these photos but at the same time it's hard to believe that ALL of these women are prepagos. What does this mean?

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