Medellin Reports

[Lefeu]

...GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.

I read it differently. I understood him to state that GFE is easier and better in SEA than in Medellin. In SEA, most girls speak some English, and that's a prerequisite for meaningful GFE. Not the case in Medellin. Hence, one has to learn Spanish and that takes time.

Now, if you tell me that it's easier to get GFE in Medellin, than say Thailand, I would strongly disagree, based on my personal experience, and I have taken 25+ trips to both countries. IMO, Thailand is the best in the world in the GFE area. Heck, I even find Brazil better in this area than Medellin. To be fair, Brazil should be compared to SEA.

When I started coming to Medellin back in 2013, I did the mansion on several trips before switching to apartments. Even at the mansion, speaking Spanish makes a big difference.

[Lefeu]

...Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

...How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

...At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues...

Strip clubs during the day? Never done that. Check at what time they open. Most folks stick with casas or free lancers during the day. An alternative would be to do a cita with an FB girl or someone you already met. I do mostly citas with FB girls during the day.

I think you should forget about Isla / Fase Dos during the day. They don't get going until late at night.

Medellin is probably not as safe as Montreal, but it's safe enough with common sense. I mongered in both Montreal and Quebec city. I felt very safe there but I am also comfortable in Medellin. Just use your common sense.

[ColomboAnthony]

Leaving soon for my first trip, pretty excited.

I bought the blu v70 dual simcard, going to buy a sim next week for here, create tinder, and then get a sim there for a Colombian # as well.

Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

If that doesn't work well going to try the casa map on here (thanks again fun luvr for the link).

Pretty excited, I've been to DR, and Montreal so far. This is going to be pretty different.

At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues.

Montreal is extremely safe so no worries there.

What do you guys think of my plan? Any places you'd definitely hit? I'll be there for 5 days.

Thanks again for all the information everyone!

I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin

https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin

https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks!

[Turgid]

... Depriving the women of their rights? You have to be kidding....

I did not say "Depriving the women of their rights". What I said was "depriving the women of their right to make a living". A subtle difference of which you are cunningly aware.

A woman should be free to choose how she wants to earn her livelihood as long as she is hurting no one.

[ColomboAnthony]

Leaving soon for my first trip, pretty excited.

I bought the blu v70 dual simcard, going to buy a sim next week for here, create tinder, and then get a sim there for a Colombian # as well.

Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

If that doesn't work well going to try the casa map on here (thanks again fun luvr for the link).

Pretty excited, I've been to DR, and Montreal so far. This is going to be pretty different.

At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues.

Montreal is extremely safe so no worries there.

What do you guys think of my plan? Any places you'd definitely hit? I'll be there for 5 days.

Thanks again for all the information everyone!

[Tomasb]

I agree as well. With some of the more hardened ones you might get a cold response but the vast majority who are in it for the short term respond well to being treated well. It is a two way street.

Hehe, I like that answer. BFE. Good response.

[IamLookin]

Unfortunately when you have street prostitution you will certainly have drugs and crime. Yes, you will always have drug dealers and thieves where there is gambling. But it certainly can be better controlled by eliminating the street prostitution. Depriving the women of their rights? You have to be kidding. They can sell themselves by other means. I saw a growing amount of el centro rats making there way to Lleras. This a reason to be concerned. Parque Lleras has some very good places to enjoy. It needs to be cleaned up before it becomes a dump.

Drug dealers and thieves go anywhere people are gathered together, namely regular clubs, casinos etc. Not just among prostitutes. I would not want to deprive women of the right to earn a living. Why not exhort the police to apprehend the drug dealers and thieves?

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[JustTK]

I a Medellin chica. I think it somes up what you are saying and they feel about it LOL.

Haha, but shouldn't this be the other way round. The reflection s / be the angel? Maybe I am overthinnking this. Hehe.

[JustTK]

Reason being is I give them BFE instead and they love it so they naturally act accordingly.

Hehe, I like that answer. BFE. Good response.

[Mojo Bandit]

Insist on girl ID being copied. Saves you headaches. Angels may look sexy but inside them who know what is lurking?

I copied this meme off the FB page of a Medellin chica. I think it somes up what you are saying and they feel about it LOL.

[Osteoknot]

I consider myself a truth-seeker and a man-of-my-word, and I promised a napkin sketch of the Law of Supply and Demand a while back. There has been a lot of discussion lately here about the influx of sex tourists, so maybe the timing is right. Most readers here won't get it or will remain stuck in their previous mode of thinking. If a few become enlightened then it's worth it.

As an example and to introduce the concept, we will start with pizzas. If you cannot understand the first graph, then you can only accept it on faith and my word that what I am telling you is true. If you cannot understand the graph, then you cannot form an intelligent argument against supply and demand, plain and simple. See foto.

The "Law" of Supply and Demand" was first introduced as a theory over 100 years ago when it won the Nobel prize in economics. If anyone wants to do some fact checking feel free because I am not using Google, just memory. In fact, one of my rules is if I have to do too much research on the Internet, then I am not qualified to discuss the subject. But that's just me.

The initial Theory was elevated to a Law because for over 100 years, there has never been one exception shown to this Law, in a free market. Whether it is a multinational Malaysian conglomerate or a mud hut in Uganda selling dung beetles, The Law of Supply and Demand is inviolate. There are some common pitfalls in understanding supply and demand, and all have been on display here on this board.

Thinking that somehow your market, meaning our puta market is 'unique' and the Law does not apply, is not true. That's called the personalization pitfall. Discrediting the entire field of economics in an effort to ignore the truths, that is called poisoning the well. Economics may not be a science, but discernment is required to understand what has strength and validity and what does not.

Applying personal experience to disprove this point is statistically invalid. No one individual's random, biased, experience can come close to achieving the number of examples needed to have a sample size of sufficient power. That would take a team of researchers posted at all the entrances to Ground Zero with counters, the same at the hotels, interviewing all dicks and wet holes, completed over a defined period of time, with huge assumptions about accuracy of interview information obtained.

Put simply, the price you pay has nothing to do with setting the price in a free market. The only possible toehold I could see for an argument against The Law applying to the puta market at Ground Zero is that is it not a free market. But not one person here has tried that approach, which further shows me, those who don't believe in this don't understand the concept against which the are arguing. See the second supply and demand graph for mongering at Ground Zero.

The market sets the price solely based on the supply and demand for pussy. I have seen a slight sense of comprehension in people starting to grasp this concept here, when the discussion focuses more on the number of new gringos entering the market. Yes, that is the key. The quantity of dicks creates the demand and the response of the supply of wet holes determines the equilibrium point. Then a line parallel to the x axis from this equilibrium point determines price where it crosses the why axis. Payment does not enter into the equation, anywhere. Payment has nothing to do with price.

The two greatest fallacies about price are that payment and cost go into determining price, but they do not. Both are independent variables. Cost is a separate discussion.

Not one person here has mounted an argument that could be carried beyond one or two steps without collapse. What the naysayers here do is argue against concepts they don't begin to understand. Knowing what you don't know is a higher intellectual function and usually harder than knowing what you do know, and this topic has been a good example here.

So I thank you guys for making me feel smarter than I probably really am. I was and am still shocked and surprised that I am the only one here who has posted accurately about this topic. I am not an economist. This is not in my wheelhouse. When I said I took one economics course over 25 years ago it was to make the point that I was not the expert. But I know enough about it to tell you the truth. One of these days an actual economist will join this board and validate everything I have said about this. Most will still not change their minds.

Finally, why does it matter? I honestly don't care if you think I am right or not. I check my ego at the door although that is also constantly misinterpreted here. No matter what you believe, you and others are not having any effect on price by what you pay, which adds to the utter futility of having any angst over whether or not you pay 10 mil COP too much of not. That is laughable on more than one level.

The only effect you can have as an individual on price is solely from showing up. The reason it matters is because no mongerer has a right to tell another mongerer the amount he should or should not be paying for any service in this or any sex market that is unregulated and is without barriers of entry or exit for dicks and wet holes. Especially when that sentiment it is wrapped in a message that somehow a mongerer is doing something "wrong" and should feel guilty if he pays too much. Hogwash. I won't stand by and let others cast unfounded negative aspersions at other people when they are so clueless themselves.

Probably mongerers who do not understand supply and demand are afraid they are getting priced out of the market, I really don't know. If that is your concern, your only possible effective course of action would be to disseminate information that discourages gringos from coming here for sex tourism in the first place. Tell them it's dangerous and that STD's are rampant and crime is out of control. If you can get the number of gringos to go down, that could drive price down. The price they pay once they get here has nothing to do with what you pay. That is set by market forces. Yes, you may get priced out because as Medellin grows in popularity, more sex tourists will come here and that increases demand. If there is a compensatory increase in supply of wet holes, both lines on the graph are shifted an equal distance to the right and the equilibrium point, or price, does not change.

Before someone tries to bring it up, the gringo or tourist market being smaller than the local market has nothing to do with this, unless possibly you want argue that a puta cannot tell the difference between a Colombian and a Gringo, jaja. In the interest of space and trying to keep it as simple as possible, I won't explain that further at this point.

You may recall I don't respond to individual posts. Keeping it real for you guys, and of course, as always, Keep on Keepin' On! Wednesday will be three weeks back in the states for me and I am having a blast here, too. No drugs, more gym time. My ex-wife just flew in for a nine day visit. We had an awesome first day at a Pride Festival, the South Carolina State Fair, and a Vanilla Ice concert. Vanilla Ice put out some incredibly positive vibes. Got to respect a guy who had the biggest one-hit wonder of the world back when he was 22 yo, invested his money into a successful home remodeling company in Miami, then turned that into a reality show that is in it tenth season on the DIY network. Wow. Headed out to the beaches for a week, first Myrtle, then Folly. Got my Z car running purrfektly for the trip. Life is Good.

I will start working on my immigration visa when I get back from the beach. I plan on going through the Colombian Consulate in Atlanta, which is the closest one to me. The reason for the immigration visa instead of a tourist visa is six months per year as I have done for the last two years in Medellin, is not enough! Ostee Out.

[VasyaPetya]

I don't think it is all accurate. GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.

For me personally I usually get GFE with almost every girl, whether a hooker or not. Reason being is I give them BFE instead and they love it so they naturally act accordingly.

[VasyaPetya]

Insist on girl ID being copied. Saves you headaches. Angels may look sexy but inside them who know what is lurking?

The girls usually have no problem with giving their ID?

[PolloNegro]

I haven't posted much, because you have to allow the so called ground zero guys to have a say about Medellin. You can listen to them or you can put boots on the ground yourself and get your own feet wet. All I can see across the board is that mongers are complaining about the price that girls are charging? Medellin in not like Pattaya, too many gringos, other mongers are too wide open and they usually get that they deserve. Some are saying that the girls are lazy and too stupid to really earn in coin.

The only things that I know about Pattaya are, its a 25 hour flight or longer to get there. Its located in South East Asia, and according to all of the complaining in the Medellin group, the girls are more readily available. Many have told me that Pattaya is quite a bit more expensive than Medellin. Only Mr E has explained to me, how it could be cheaper and ways to counter the expenses in Pattaya. For now, I am always 3.5 hours away from Medellin with a ticket cost of around $175 round trip, I have no complaints about the City of Eternal Spring.

I was in Medellin from Oct 7th until Oct 11th, I didn't really notice any changes and my home and clothes and items were still intact. What I have noticed is that many mongers are complaining when they clearly have options. Bars, Casas, Strip clubs, Domicillios, and the Streetwalkers, but no, we must complain because that what we do when we do not get our way. Every place does not have to be Americanized in order to be a great place to visit. I can tell you many things that I hate about Medellin but I want, because I can tell you about how much I love the great variety of chicas that are available for sex in this city.

If you do not have a $100 dollars a day to invest in this hobby, why are you in it? In Medellin you can get laid in a nice casa in centro for $22 US and you are complaining? I can't figure out the logic. Many of you are do ant****ial that you have no problem telling other board members just how much you hate fellow Americans, I absolutely love reading every story about how other gringos in the area annoy you and you hate to be around them. Simple solution, don't acknowledge them, keep It moving, you came to monger, not a meet and greet.

Clearly the majority of the board members are older European guys who are on fixed incomes because there is no way possible that you have been in America, still working and you are complaining about prices of girls. If your social security check ain't cutting it, stay in your lane, if that pension ain't allowing you to get your Hugh Heffner on, stay in your lane. Pay for what you can afford not what you think you deserve, that's where many mongers go wrong, but hey, who cares if you go in debt trying to monger in a 3rd world country. Anyone on this board who still has a job and can say that they have not done incredible numbers, then you must have called in to work 3 out of the 5 days you were scheduled to work. Even if I could return to Medellin right now I would not do it, due to the amount of money I am currently earning in the USA. My target for another 6 month vacation is next June or July, but every 50-60 days, I will sneak into Medellin and back to the USA like I never left.

If you can write these post and convince readers that you have a well diverse 401 k plan, then you can pay the small increase that some of these girls are asking. It just goes to show, just because you have the ability to command the English language, clearly it has nothing to do with your ability to earn and save money. Who's complaining about price if you are out here living the dream? Mongers have to stop being so abrasive that we allow ourselves to be so profound even in our posts that we just lose it. If you are too cantankerous to be around yourself, then tell other board members, don't try and meet up with them. I wish all of you SEA lovers nothing but the best and I hope you leave Medellin with no intention to return.

On a more informative note, when leaving Medellin, lately I have seen a big increase in the airlines waiting until you enter into the tunnels headed to the plane and then snatching you aside for a strip search, computer search and a phone search, looking for inappropriate photos. Be mindful, I have no idea what they can do if they catch you with photos of girls in the nude, I just know they aren't checking people's laptops, phones, and cavity searches for their health. Everyone stay safe, Pollo Negro is Out!

[Nounce]

Excellent summary! Right on the money.

I don't think it is all accurate. GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.