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  1. #18596

    TTP weaken my argument. ASAP back to P4 P.

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeToPlay  [View Original Post]
    In his cryptic style he may be referring to paisas, and indeed most of them do not have native Indian blood. This is in spite of what he thinks. You can google the demographics of Medellin and learn that pretty much everything the paisas told Sparrow and that he rejects is indeed correct. It is a city of Spanish descendants and European immigrants. Here, I'll save the trouble.

    According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:

    Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.

    Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.

    No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%.

    During the 17th and 18th centuries, Medellin received many immigrants from Spain. Most Indigenous peoples died from the introduction of European diseases, and many of those who survived intermarried with early Spanish settlers, who were mostly men; later, Spanish women also began to immigrate. During the 19th and 20th centuries, immigrants arrived from Lebanon, Jordan, Germany, Italy and Portugal. Many people from Medellin are referred to as Paisas, people of mainly Spanish ancestry, a lot of them Basque. There is a small Afro-Colombian and Zambo-Colombian (people of Indigenous and African descent) population.
    ˇYa! Yet, this is Medellin. I got my numbers from CIA Worldfactbook. And is was the the country average. (This part of the controversial organization is in fact very neutral and their facts are in line what other institutions report).

    First of all; is this what people state themselves, because my whole point is based on that The Big Denial. If it's "genetically true", then you got me, and I must surrender, however not without certain conditions. This is a non-controversial problem. In the US; many persons prefer "white", while this can lead to mistreatment in medical terms. Some diseases and allergies exist among, for example Asians, but not among whites. Black females have much lower degree of breast-cancer than white females etc. , etc. That has led to a mix-max situation, about / whether which treatment is the right or most accurate for an individual. Emergency cases are of course very sensible, while in long-term treatment this can be sorted out. The same problem should logically exist in Colombia and Medellin!

    Secondly. Only in the very south of Spain you find dark people, girls that look like Pocahontas, but who's heritage is from there, Morocco or other parts of the then Ottoman Empire. (Due to having Turkish passports, Arabs in Arequipa, Peru, where referred to "LOS Turcos", I even had a close friend far up in Costa Rica that called Arabas "LOS turcos", comparing the invasion of CR has of "Nicos", poor Nicaraguans.

    But in the rest of Spain people looks, in my opinion. Blha-blha-blaha, like portenas in Buenos Aires. The striking difference in beauty between Spanish girls and Colombian girls came very late for me, 2014. From Copenhagen I travelled with Iberia. Stayed in Madrid 3 days. Then I went to the airport. The girls in the Avianca reception where much prettier, darker hair, eyes. The "azafatas, where like paisas, Pocahontas beautiful, but of course I agree, there are a lot of Spanish blaha-looking people in Medellin. My X novia, now a MFC-star and available to you guys. She will meet you in real life, but not have sex just like that. She wants to get $ by "guapos gringos". I. e. She choose her own victims! You can get her contact-info. She is a 9, maybe a 10. She is marriage material, even if she very young.

    She is also crazy, which is normal in Medellin. My Spanish teacher at UPB, used his position to get away from the possessive and jealous paisas. He prefers "our" girls! More rational, modern. Doesn't have to ask permission from mum, if you can be your sweetheart paisa novio oficial".

    I bet 100 $US that the " No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%. ", is self-proclaimed / choosen in the survey. It rather shows that my argument hold; denial of the obvious! It is a way to high figure to be realistic! 93.4%! The national average of whites are very close to 50%, but I think 60-70% are mestizos!

    Many girls dye their hair, even body-hair blonde. Many wear blue or green contacts.

    TTP, you have skills and I respect you.

    I state again; in Buenos Aires, people just are from Europe, and know when and where their family came to Argentina. In Medellin people don't know, just "from Colombia". A side-track; One guy, claimed to be part of the Pitti family, expelled from Europe by the Medici family, 4 guys, the last Pittis escaped to Panama (which then was a part of Spain or later Colombia). Just a little side-story, since they called him my twin-brother with his Nordic appearance. He is at a small pub on Calle49 b (but he is "tacano", he will try you to make to pay the whole bill, so I avoid him), in front of a little park, on the other side is the Apartmenthotel Montes, which is full of Latin& foreign businessmen bringing in girls that where. Waaaoooo! One guy even had what me and my paisa friend to 99% considered to be twin sisters at his table in pure daylight! And they where 18-20 and +9's to 10's. I admit, I became very jealous! How, where do they come across such beauties! I mean, that you MUST STARE, just out of the stunning effect their elegance and beauty, sensuality. And this place is not expensive. Apartahotel Montes, it's worth checking out, since from there you have close access to metro, a fast taxi ride to "all" of Medellin. It's part of Estadio barrio, which is undervalued by "us" mongers. 5-10 minutes walk and you are on Cra. 74 and Energy, on the other side of the Cra 74 is the Estadio itself, among many sports to performe, here is a big tennis-club, which you can join and play with monitors, students, 10-15 mil pesos for 45 minutes and they are the talented one's at the Club! The Club's members are Estrato 4-6. They will ask you to play with them. A month's membership is like 100 mil pesos and for 45 minutes it's 10-20% of what we pay in US / Western Europe. The clay is hard though due to the intense hard rain, but dry up very quickly. The +1500 meters altitude request for balls and rackets, being adjusted for that altitude.

    My X-novia, the MFC-babe, is a Pocahontas. Her mother though is Spanish looking-blaha with green eyes. So races, ethnic groups pop up within families! All of them in one family! Genes are tricky, popping up in an atavistic, unpredictable way.

    Then I must add; I was unfair to the gringos. Many of the absolutely best people I have met in my life are Americans! But there a lot of egoistic "groceros" persons that verify the bad view of the gringos. But of course, my argument was much of a generalization, The US is of course much more of a continent that just "a country".

    Among ordinary people this nowadays have a minor, constantly diminishing importance, impact. The impact for governing the country's main institutions, both private and public are though another thing. Spanish, or might I say, Spanish and Creole persons dominate to 99%!

    "Blancas" are dominating, as You say, among The Beautiful-people Elite.

    I put so strong emphasis of this since my country is considered very tolerant and Scandinavia is a model for the rest of the world; fair distribution of incomes, no racism, female have close to 50-50 influence and incomes. And since the 60's we are sexually liberated!

    In fact it is a much more intolerable society in real life. Institution take care of Syrians, Afghan, Iraq, Iran & Palestine people; they make a terror attack, you bomb them back to the stone-age, then they come to us and live like an outcast. Muslims simply doesn't fit in a society that are secular.

    FB-babes. I have some 400-500 FB friends and most of them are semi-prepagos I have never met, and never will, since they come to my apartment on a high and the risk for a scandal is destroying the whole session. At least 50% are Pocahontas, maybe 60-70%. They are of course mestizos!

    Whites being 93.4% in Medellin. That is a number that just reflect my argument; Deal with it! Be proud of your own history, your own blood, just like the Peruvians have managed to do since the elections 1990, when the transformation there started!

    The sex-tourism and the Post order wife, etc, the whole thing is a moral issue. But in fact, the brightest persons in world history have a strong over-representation of ethnically mixed persons!

    I can see that the process has started; "The only risk going to Colombia, is that you might never want to leave". 88.88% true in my case! Minimum-wage and maximum working-hours are in-human, it's slavery!

    What is interesting and create that "feel-good" sensation is that people live here and now. We are preoccupied with the future of our massive investments in property and curling our children.

    Now I owe the thread of P4 P, prepago advice, etc, since we came of topic. I will go back to my normal state of crazy pirate, cazando / chaseing young paisas ASAP!

    All good, but controversial, Energy!

    Yes, Nino Bravo, I you are right, it is Afro-Colombian.

    We now take a brake! We continue in March / April, not before. PM or other forums are OK. I got off-topic.

    I will compensate with new P4 P information.

  2. #18595
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesDandy  [View Original Post]
    Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. While Colombians don't treat others rudely, people generally try to keep to their own, and especially much more than in places like the US. That not only applies to races but economic strata as well, you won't find a rich colombian guy with a barrio chick no matter how much he loves pussy.

    Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.

    As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually. Take from that what you will.

    Colombia does have some super hot black girls, too, and I can't imagine they would think the same.
    I want to add that I'm not only referring to mongering, but also at hooking up with normal girls. Off course mongering requires dollars, that is your only advantage if any. My guy spent a year in Medellin. Being a young black (light skinned) guy didn't prove to be an obstacle at all, on the contrary, he supposedly had a great time with both working and non working girls. But let's be clear: I would much rather share my own personal experiences that I have yet to harvest. You're absolutely right that I have not been to Medellin yet.

    BTW, it isn't clear to me why you would say something like "bringing a thug like attitude". No one is talking about thugs. Why would you say that?

    You are correct when you say that I do not know anything about Medellin. All I have to go on is experiences of other people, and some Paisas I hit outside of Colombia. And yep, I saw some hesitance and rejection towards certain black gentlemen from Colombianas there. In my opinion those guys had some 'inconsistencies' in their personal hygiene and the way they dressed wasn't up to normal standards. And because unfortunately this was the case with more dark skinned gentlemen there (some locals) plus the fact that they often have less deep pockets than their white brothers, the girls tend to focus on white (older) gringos. So I'll give you that.

    However, I travel with a mixed group of six, some of us are black (dark and light skinned). Never had one single problem with Colombianas in the brothel we frequented with girls from Cartagena, Pererra, Medellin, Bogota and Cali. Maybe it's because of the fact that they are working abroad, but I have a feeling that we won't have any problems in Medellin either.

    So far the most important thing for us has been that you dress the part, are well groomed, and are polite and respectful. Speaking the language and having a sense of humor also helps.

    I do believe that not all cities/countries have the same tolerance towards black people, but I refuse to believe that your skin colour will work against you in Medellin if you're that guy, as described above.

    I guess we'll find out when we tear through Mede in a polite matter :)

  3. #18594
    I suggest asking for the opinion of African American guys who have been to Medellin. You know what I am talking about. Great majority of the members here are white, some of them have not been to Medellin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Showdown  [View Original Post]
    I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?

    Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?

    As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?

    Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?

    Thanks.

    Showdown.

  4. #18593

    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dellorto  [View Original Post]
    I suggest you read through this thread, you'll find answers to your questions. Maybe go back like 50 pages and work your way through to today. Not too long ago there was a reference to some posts with a comparison between DR and MDE.

    I haven't been to MDE yet, but I'm prepping and reading through this thread and talking to some guys who know MDE (one of them is a young black guy).

    - Do not worry about drug stories, robberies etc. Apply logic and care as you would do in other major south american cities
    - If you're a well groomed / dressed black gentleman (especially if you're young) you're set for a good time. You may even have an advantage on the regular gringos

    Check out Jubril's video touching on topics like black people in Mede. He doesn't necessarily talk about mongering, but it may give you an idea:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnGl0lo9s.
    Dellorto clearly doesn't know anything about Medellin from his comments as well as the fact he's never been here. Blacks will not have an advantage in this culture under any circumstances. While Colombians don't treat others rudely, people generally try to keep to their own, and especially much more than in places like the US. That not only applies to races but economic strata as well, you won't find a rich colombian guy with a barrio chick no matter how much he loves pussy.

    Why one would need "an advantage" in a casa picking a hooker is beyond me. The only advantage you need is $12. What is more likely to happen than being treated rudely is that some of the girls will not present themselves when they peek through the door and see a black man, this has happened on more than one occasion with friends of mine. But don't despair bc there will always be a few that don't mind and you will find service.

    As far as going to clubs and picking up non-pros, that's a real distant long shot (almost none), and bringing a thug like attitude would only make it several degrees worse, if you happen to be that type or attitude. If you treat people properly they will do the same, but this isn't the US or Europe where they cherish mixing races above all else. In fact, if you ask ANY girl if she likes black men (besides a black girl), they will always say NO and give a sour face, even if they might actually. There is also saying Colombians use (on TV, movies, etc) "mejorar la raza", which means "improve the race", referring to mixing with whites as being positive (google it). They even sell products to bleach skin here. Take from that what you will.

    For example, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-alejandra-casalehardin-/mejorar-la-raza-an-exampl_b_7558892.html

    And it isn't just Colombia, but most of South America (except Brazil). Girls don't even lay out to tan bc they perceive dark skin as a lower social strata.

    Colombia does have some super hot black girls, too, and I can't imagine they would think the same.

  5. #18592
    Quote Originally Posted by Showdown  [View Original Post]
    I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?

    Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?

    As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?

    Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?

    Thanks.

    Showdown.
    I suggest you read through this thread, you'll find answers to your questions. Maybe go back like 50 pages and work your way through to today. Not too long ago there was a reference to some posts with a comparison between DR and MDE.

    I haven't been to MDE yet, but I'm prepping and reading through this thread and talking to some guys who know MDE (one of them is a young black guy).

    - Do not worry about drug stories, robberies etc. Apply logic and care as you would do in other major south american cities
    - If you're a well groomed / dressed black gentleman (especially if you're young) you're set for a good time. You may even have an advantage on the regular gringos

    Check out Jubril's video touching on topics like black people in Mede. He doesn't necessarily talk about mongering, but it may give you an idea:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnGl0lo9s.

  6. #18591

    Blacks in Medillin and other assorted questions

    I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?

    Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?

    As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations. Are there any SW (I enjoy them more sometimes) or are MP and houses the only route? Can anyone point me to a Report of Distinction that can help me determine where to go?

    Also you can only do so much mongering in a day. So I like to go to places where you can do other things in the place you are mongering. However it seems Medellin is devoid of anything to do (I looked at TripAdvisor). If this statement is untrue can someone point me to some non mongering activities?

    Thanks.

    Showdown.

  7. #18590
    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365  [View Original Post]
    Hey,

    Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.

    Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.
    Unbelievable. He must be joking.

  8. #18589
    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365  [View Original Post]
    Hey,
    Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.
    Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.
    I like this post. Happy new year.

  9. #18588
    Hey,

    Is there a Hotel like the one Aussie Greg used to run-.

    Looking for decent hotel where chicas come and go.

  10. #18587
    Sunday. Catholic country. Gringo.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNice1  [View Original Post]
    Went all the way and the door is locked. Don't see any bell and it seems closed today. Have to explore other options.

  11. #18586

    Energy closed today?

    Went all the way and the door is locked. Don't see any bell and it seems closed today. Have to explore other options.

  12. #18585
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]

    What I really wanted to know is how liberal the girls are sexually in Colombia and so on, are they anything close to Brazil or not.
    You really need to define what you mean by liberal otherwise everyone is trying to guess what the hell you're talking about. That girls will come over to see you is "liberal"; that they will kiss is "liberal"; that they- most of the time- give BBBJ is "liberal"; that their culture and laws allow girls to use their bodies to make money is "liberal". There is nothing really liberal or liberated about a guy put his schlong up a girl's dirty butthole and you won't find many girls in Colombia that are willing. In short, if anal sex is what you're looking for or hope to find Colombia will disappoint you, so don't go.

  13. #18584
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Hi Guys,

    No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?

    I have a feeling it is hard.
    Hello Delta Indigo,

    Anal; not really my thing. However, if you do some research in this thread, you will find some posters who have provided links to escorts in MDE. If you check out those sites, I know there is at least one where the scope of services is provided including "Anal", yes or no. This info would be helpful to reasonably guarantee the service you seek.

  14. #18583

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Puntz79  [View Original Post]
    YMMV. If you are decent looking, have good hygiene, can speak a bit of Spanish, maybe you'll get your wish. But I don't really ask for anal either, and most do not provide it and will not consider it. You have a better chance of it if you can get with a girl you have chemistry with. Money talks but that doesn't mean they will be happy to let you stick it in her ass. If you want a destination where good looking women are up for anal, and you might not even need to ask then go with Buenos Aires. I'd say most of the chicas I have had there will be OK with anal. Medellin and Colombia in general, different story.
    Thanks,

    Your post finally answers my question. I know how to talk to and handle girls, I am very nice to them and etc. What I really wanted to know is how liberal the girls are sexually in Colombia and so on, are they anything close to Brazil or not. So all the discussions about hygiene and courtesy were a bit of the mark, but thanks to all of you for your answers. I prefer the German FKK scene and am occasionally curious about other locales.

  15. #18582
    Why not just ask the girl before you take her instead of badgering the board on whether a puta who you have yet to even choose will allow anal? Asking guys on the board will not get you anywhere. We may say sure there is no problem with it then you get there and every girl you choose refuses. As they said, YMMV.

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