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  1. #34555
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

    So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

    I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things.
    You probably would not like Botero. It is nothing like Lleras where people go to party and it is nothing like the local party scene where you live. It is just hookers out trying to make some money. There, you have to be in charge of creating your own fun.

    Why don't you ever see Colombian guys picking up chicks in Parque Lleras?

  2. #34554
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.
    I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.

  3. #34553
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    You have not elaborated how bad it ended up for you. Plenty of people enter US not knowing English everyday.

    What do you think the immigration think what sex vacation is?
    It was actually quite foolish on my part. I thought my Spanish was improving as I had successfully interacted with some working girls while in Medellin. Landing at the airport and happening upon this Latina immigration officer I thought I'd give my Spanish a try. It went well for the first couple exchanges but then she would have discovered that I was not a Spanish speaker at all and somehow that might have pissed her off. After I left immigration I was met by some officers who ushered me into a room and gave me the third degree obviously at the behest of the immigration officer.

  4. #34552
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]

    I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?
    Everybody makes a fake FB account for their supply of Bello chicas. I just have to warn that after cambridge Analytica scandal FB is actively suspending accounts which feels like a fake account.

    My advice is to add the girls slowly, also add some guys to your account, mostly other mongers and give your FB 3 months to have a collection of 200 Bello beauties in your friend list.

  5. #34551

    Understood

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

    Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

    So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.
    I just don't want to stay at a place and bring WGs back and start getting the evil eye from the staff like last time LOL. Narrowing my trip hotel choices down to Poblado Plaza, Lloyds, Maderio, Holiday Inn, or maybe go all out and stay at Dann Carlton if I can catch it at a good sale rate. Sorry for listing hotels, but these are pretty prominent Hotels on any website search, so I figured it won't make too big a difference. Anybody have any experience mongering at any of these places?

  6. #34550

    Question on Botero and Facebook?

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.
    Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.
    On another note.
    On a whim, I got into the FB game.
    This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.
    Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.
    I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.
    It's a tough life there.
    She came over and just punished me! LOL.
    Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.
    I can see why FB scene has taken off!
    Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.
    Fun!
    Botero was a total winner for me too!
    The Vennies Rock!
    I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.
    They laugh and like it.
    Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.
    Enjoy guys!
    I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

    So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

    I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things. I am a bigger guy and have no problem in terms of safety in any American city, but obviously I know even in American cities no matter how tough you are there are certain neighborhoods you just don't fuck with. Number 1- theres no reason to go there, no girls, bars, etc. Number 2- Crime and Poverty is rampant. I read on some sources that Botero Plaza / Centro is a crime and poverty ridden neighborhood and other people swear its awesome. I have a high risk tolerance, but I am not stupid. Is it just plain stupid for me to party there at night? Everywhere I read it says once its gets dark, gringos should get out of there.

    Are Centro and Lleras the only areas to find quality WGs? What would my chances be of finding a quality WG in Laureles around 70th street nightlife? On my last trip I never made it out of Parque Lleras, but I definately want to explore the city more.

    I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?

  7. #34549
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]

    That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

    In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.
    Each time I have returned from Colombia the first stop and so then my Border Patrol / Customs experience is always Miami. I think maybe the third time a BP agent ask me on a return from Cartagena, "why Cartagena?" and I said "its a beautiful city. You should visit" and he said "what about the women?" and I said "just as beautiful". He smiled. I never even suspected that he might have known I was mongering until you guys started this conversation. Other than that time though I have never been questioned more than asking me the purpose of my visit, and I always just say "vacation".

    That being said, I remember when leaving Colombia was a whole different show than it is now. I cannot attest to what Medellin was like but ten years ago when I would leave Cartagena, before the airport was as big as it is now, it was like something out of bad movie about a foreign country, guys standing / sitting around in Army uniforms toting machine guns and opening your suitcases on tables and sending me to the conveyor belt x ray machine. It would have done no good to stick it in my ass LOL.

  8. #34548

    I told you so!

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

    Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.
    It's the same game, just a different field.

    The CB and P people at the airport are doing the same thing as the people at the border crossings. They have only 2 responsibilities:

    1. Make sure you're legal to enter.

    2. Make sure you're not bringing in anything illegal.

    That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

    In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.

    In either case, if you're relaxed, smiling and open, you're a lot less suspicious than if you're worried about what questions they're going to ask you.

    My finest moment:

    I got sent around to go through x-ray. Usually they would also send me inside for a paperwork verification, but they didn't mention it. Just to be safe, I went inside to ask if I was cleared to go.

    "Can I help you?" "I don't think I need to see you, but I want to make sure." "Did you go through x-ray?" "Yes. " "Did they find anything?" "They said I have 2 cavities. " "What? They're not supposed to x-ray you." "It's part of my health insurance plan.'

    At which point the CBP officer said "ah. Obamacare. " The whole place busted up.

  9. #34547
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    I am looking to book a guest friendly place for the spring. I have noticed almost all the AIRBNB rentals have a strict no prostitution policy. Are these policies heavily enforced? I saw some even warned of a fine and eviction. Is Medellin really cracking down on sex tourism? My last stay I did notice that when checking in a chica / guest that I was kinda getting a dirty look. I never checked in more than one per day. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after looking into so many hotels and rentals that openly state they are not guest friendly, its starting to concern me. If anyone is familiar with the situation and could offer some insight as to how Hotels who allow registered guests view people bringing back working girls, that would be really cool. I just don't want to book a hotel that gets pissed at me for bringing girls back.

    Has anyone ever had trouble entering Colombia due to the crackdown on sex tourism? I didn't have trouble entering, but returning to the states the customs guy grilled / interrogated the shit out of me. Is Laurelas or another neighborhood more open to mongers than Poblado?
    Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

    Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

    So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.

  10. #34546

    Parque Lleras

    Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.

    Man has that place gone down hill!

    The quality of the chicas walking the park is looooooow! IMO.

    Looks like they opened the gates for every barrio rata to show up.

    Really.

    I was stunned at the lack of any quality really.

    It was a gringo fest as well.

    Felt like I was in some US city where they allowed ugly Colombian hookers to walk about.

    I think of the many chicas I saw, maybe 5 doable for me, maybe.

    True, this is all my opinion, but damn it was nasty, and trannies all over as well.

    Sad really.

    I remember when the park was full of real Colombianas, not working girls, but hot!

    Fun to gaze and possibly chat.

    Not anymore.

    Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.

    On another note.

    On a whim, I got into the FB game.

    This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.

    Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.

    I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.

    It's a tough life there.

    She came over and just punished me! LOL.

    Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.

    I can see why FB scene has taken off!

    Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.

    Fun!

    Botero was a total winner for me too!

    The Vennies Rock!

    I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.

    They laugh and like it.

    Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.

    Enjoy guys!

  11. #34545
    Quote Originally Posted by MedellinGringo  [View Original Post]
    I would much rather not try to knock a girl down on price. But rather just have her come over and get her to spend the day or night and just get a lot more out of her after we have met. But that is because I can get a lot more out of them. Some guys can't. Hell as soon as the chicks show up at some guys places they want to leave immediately. And those are the guys that need to negotiate very thing they want for a set price. Or they aren't going to get anything they want without and up-sell and then some.
    That's exactly right.

    Every single guy obviously is different.

    Some guys just give off a cool, relaxed, 'me gusta mucho estar aquí con el' , I dig being with this guy, Vibe.

    Others, not so much, LOL.

    Your comment on how the chica wants to split as soon as she arrives, is true.

    Like many of us I imagine, I've befriended many of these girls thru the years.

    They tell me some funny stories of mostly gringos.

    We all have our strengths and weaknesses; looks, money, personality, health, fitness, spanish, etc.

    Just play to your strength.

    Enjoy.

  12. #34544

    Know your rights. America isn't East Germany.

    Know your rights as an American returning from overseas.

    You have rights.

    https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know...nd-ports-entry

  13. #34543
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

    Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.
    Customs and Border Patrol. I see the connection.

    Last month coming from Asia I was stopped, questioned and had my suitcase emptied out and searched. Of course nothing illegal founded. He went thru my meds and asked what each one was, they were all in compartment plastic box without any script. He came to the blue pills and I said Viagra, he was a little embarrassed and quickly put them all away.

    BTW, there were 2 officers doing the search. Possibly a slow night for them.

    A few times in the past coming from Manila thru Guam I have been asked “how are the girls?”, I respond “pretty dang good” but never say I paid money for services.

  14. #34542
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.
    For those with Global Entry and SENTRI, I would be concerned about telling immigration officers about the true purpose of your travels as it might affect your ability to renew into these programs at a later date.

  15. #34541
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.
    I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.

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