Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

Colombian govt is not a socialist government in terms of policy or name. Secondly you indicate that a socialist country will not be a democratic country. That's not true, and there are many democratic and socialist countries. Third, Colombia is neither socialist nor Democratic.

Your correct, Colombia is actually a combination of democracy, capitalism, and socialism.

[Surfer500]

Here are links to the forms:

Copa https://www.copaair.com/ustravelforms/.

Spirit https://content.spirit.com/Shared/en...ttestation.pdf.

Jet Blue https://static.cdn.responsys.net/i5/...STATION_EN.pdf.

Delta https://www.delta.com/content/dam/de...210120-rlp.pdf.

I can't find any reference to this form on either Avianca, United, or American Airlines website.

OK I remember this form now, I had to sign it at the airport when I flew on American, so the other airlines are making it available for passengers to sign and have a copy ready at the airport to save check in time.

[Fun Luvr]

Can you provide more information on this additional form required for entry into the USA. ...

Here are links to the forms:

Copa https://www.copaair.com/ustravelforms/.

Spirit https://content.spirit.com/Shared/en...ttestation.pdf.

Jet Blue https://static.cdn.responsys.net/i5/...STATION_EN.pdf.

Delta https://www.delta.com/content/dam/de...210120-rlp.pdf.

I can't find any reference to this form on either Avianca, United, or American Airlines website.

Update: I found reference to the form on Avianca. There is not a link to the form online, but there is a link that automatically downloads the form. Here is a link to the page where you can download the form. https://www.avianca.com/us/en/experi...re/#medidaspos Click on "North America" in the heading and then "Passenger disclosure and attestation to the United States of America" in the third paragraph on the page.

[GeneHickman]

So far they have avoided attacking their Capitol building and killing police officers

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That's funny. I am not politically left, but nonetheless.

[Sangnyc21]

Thanks dudes. El Poblado it is. But question. All the "energy living" rentals on Airbnb look like legit places but it seems the "guest policy disclaimers " are brutal. So for those of you who has stayed at that property, is that just a front and is it pretty easy to get people in assuming I will only have one person at a time with me. And Are you guys tipping the front desk security to get around any BS. All info helps. Just want to be sure before I book and thank you.

Energy will always allow guests as long as they have a cedula.

It is just a disclaimer. Simple as that.

[GeneHickman]

It is not likely BS. Units are owned by individuals, and they can make their own rules. Plus the complex may have rules as well due to Covid or whatever. I have not stayed there, but have stayed in other places with rules, and in Colombia rules can be enforced very easily.

The security guys there are pretty chill. Just be friendly with them and they are really cool. They all know what is up in the building. They screen dozens of chicas daily.

Occasionally when I went to the nearby Carulla (supermarket) I would pick up a couple of beers or snacks with my groceries and give them on my way up, and they were happy. They would let the chica up after checking her cedula and taking a digital photo of her. Usually they call your room, and you can either go down and meet the chica in the lobby or a couple of times they even brought her up for me. I always went down to the lobby with the chica after so they knew I was Ok.

The high floor apartments are pricier but better, as the views etc are great, also the road noise is lighter. The rooftop views of the city are awesome and that is where the pool and exercise room are as well. If going anywhere outside, I suggest calling an uber and be in your room till the uber is nearby and then come down to the lobby.

There is a decent steakhouse (if you want to take / meet a chica) and an ATM in the strip mall across the road, and though the area is generally pretty safe, you would want to keep your wits about you and just get the task done and be back in your room. Tough times and gringos would be an obvious target. Moto bandits can easily target you if you look like a wandering target. I generally withdrew 900 mil at a time every 2-3 days based on my needs, usually in the morning as I went for my coffee and bagel in the coffee shop next door to the ATM. The other place that was good for taking cash for me was in Santa Fe mall, where I could mix into the mall after pulling cash and later just take a taxi back.

[Balboa]

They will never vote for anything smelling socialist, but the wallet is important and they will not allow easily to be penalized so much.

That's funny.

They said the same thing about Venezuela back in the day.

Then along came Hugo, LOL.

[Zeos1]

Thanks dudes. El Poblado it is. But question. All the "energy living" rentals on Airbnb look like legit places but it seems the "guest policy disclaimers " are brutal. So for those of you who has stayed at that property, is that just a front and is it pretty easy to get people in assuming I will only have one person at a time with me. And Are you guys tipping the front desk security to get around any BS. All info helps. Just want to be sure before I book and thank you.

It is not likely BS. Units are owned by individuals, and they can make their own rules. Plus the complex may have rules as well due to Covid or whatever. I have not stayed there, but have stayed in other places with rules, and in Colombia rules can be enforced very easily.

[Surfer500]

I left Medellin yesterday. The tunnel to the airport was closed, probably still is. I used a collectivo taxi and it took just a little over an hour from the Texaco at the end of Las Palmas to the airport. There were four construction areas on the road up the mountain. The driver was really good, trying to go as fast as possible considering the traffic. The line outside the airport was short, but took a little longer with each person than the last time I went through. I have Preferred Access with Copa but it was slower than in the past. I think because of the form the US government now requires in addition to the Covid test. The form is just an attestation that you have received the Covid test or the reason why you haven't. Typical government duplication. wns before returning.

Can you provide more information on this additional form required for entry into the USA. Was it an online form or something you signed at the counter upon checking in. I recall when I came back in April on American they had me sign something, and I think it was something to cover the airlines ass if a flyer misrepresented their COVID test or something like that.

I have a friend flying out tonight from MDE and he's going to New York and he said he had to fill out a New York State Form online but didn't mention any additional online forms required by the USA government to be filled out on line.

So it must be a new paper form you signed at the Airport.

Travel in the future requiring testing, multiple form submissions online, forms to be signed at the Airport, when will it ever end.

It used to be prior to the Pandemic, at least for me, I would fly on COPA & Avianca from LAX and I would book a red eye Business class seat, hit the lounge at LAX and eat, drink, and dream about all the Poontang to be had the next day, yet now so much red-tape to go thru to fly, at least I have Global Entry though.

Oh well, the fun of flying is gone.

[LatinaLover#1]

I've been reading about the social unrest in non western media and it seems very serious. Brings back memories of other countries that became socialist following similar unrest. Could it be possibly that this is the best time to visit Colombia before socialism takes over and p4p goes kaput.

Colombia is not now. Maybe in a few weeks. The mases need to be placated before anything gets back to normal. Last election the socialist got quite a few votes, the left. Farc and ELN will and are, taking full advantage of this unrest and the desire for the masses to change the government. They are recruiting at full speed and the establishment is getting worried. I expect them to give more and more to the working class to put a lid on this. As far as the women go, they will be available now and later if the socialist take over because the left will never give the masses enough to live on, it a farce to believe the people will be better off socialist, look at Cuba, Venezuela and the rest. In the Latin culture, although less in present day, it is impressed on females that they have to take care of their bodies and get a man to take care of them. Unfortunately for us mongers the more educated the women get and see the how the feminist **** in the USA operate they will continue to get more and more militant in the feminist movement. In Latin America the man is the 'EL REY' but I have seen that eroding in the last few years. Men, enjoy it while you can.

[Silver Turtle]

Colombian govt is not a socialist government in terms of policy or name. Secondly you indicate that a socialist country will not be a democratic country. That's not true, and there are many democratic and socialist countries. Third, Colombia is neither socialist nor Democratic.

The Country is already socialist even though they call themselves a democracy, and P4P is actually increasing versus declining.

[Bdd1124]

Thanks dudes. El Poblado it is. But question. All the "energy living" rentals on Airbnb look like legit places but it seems the "guest policy disclaimers " are brutal. So for those of you who has stayed at that property, is that just a front and is it pretty easy to get people in assuming I will only have one person at a time with me. And Are you guys tipping the front desk security to get around any BS. All info helps. Just want to be sure before I book and thank you.

I have stayed at Energy 3 times always easy to get guests in just check them in at front desk they will get there ID and info and off you go not limited to one guest either I brought up multiples several times Cannot wait to be back late June.

[Fun Luvr]

I left Medellin yesterday. The tunnel to the airport was closed, probably still is. I used a collectivo taxi and it took just a little over an hour from the Texaco at the end of Las Palmas to the airport. There were four construction areas on the road up the mountain. The driver was really good, trying to go as fast as possible considering the traffic. The line outside the airport was short, but took a little longer with each person than the last time I went through. I have Preferred Access with Copa but it was slower than in the past. I think because of the form the US government now requires in addition to the Covid test. The form is just an attestation that you have received the Covid test or the reason why you haven't. Typical government duplication. I went to a Davivienda ATM near the checkins to get some pesos to take advantage of the good exchange rate. It displayed amounts I have never seen at Davivienda, up to more than 2,000,000. I selected 1,020,000, but then it gave me the option to accept their exchange rate. When I declined, it cancelled the transaction. Entering security, they now require one of those throw-away masks or an N95 mask. My three layer mask from my medical provider was not acceptable. Lucky for me, a lady behind me gave me a throw-away mask. She would not accept payment, very nice of her. No issues boarding or on the aircraft. When deplaning in Panama, there were two people in the jetway questioning everyone. They only spoke Spanish and I didn't understand what the person was asking. I understood Estados Unidos and answered Si. He let me through. No issues boarding in Panama nor going through immigration in Orlando. I'll wait until the end of the curfews and lockdowns before returning.

[Black Page]

The Country is already socialist even though they call themselves a democracy, and P4P is actually increasing versus declining.

You are wrong on this. Colombia is traditionally a country very conservative, who always votes for the Right (sometimes not right, but they are wrong, jajaja). The Mayor of Bogota is a (good) exception.

This time, what happened is that the right-side Government approved a tax reform, which penalizes not only the poor ones as usual, but also the middle class and favours the top class. Then, the middle class got upset.

They will never vote for anything smelling socialist, but the wallet is important and they will not allow easily to be penalized so much.

[Kafka]

So far they have avoided attacking their Capitol building and killing police officers

I've been reading about the social unrest in non western media and it seems very serious. Brings back memories of other countries that became socialist following similar unrest. Could it be possibly that this is the best time to visit Colombia before socialism takes over and p4p goes kaput.

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