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  1. #64695
    Good day all.

    Today is was my first day in Medellin. I'm a solo traveler, and fairly experienced when in comes to new cities and countries. Before arriving in Medellin I consumed this forum and YouTube, trying to make sure I didn't go to wild.

    I'll start by giving other first timers tips that worked for me. Firstly, spend the first day / night getting the lay of the land. Absorb the atmosphere of the city, as it's quite intoxicating. Secondly, find yourself a good driver, now just Uber. They will look out for you.

    As for what I learned about the girls. Yes, Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. Still worth checking out, it's very cool. I don't have any prices ect.

    After that, I went to LA Isla Club, definelty worth the visit. Yes, it's a bit more expensive. I bough a half bottle, and did the math, I spent less on that then I would for drinks on myself. Also, it's a great ice breaker, and you won't be buying any girly drinks. For prices, girls wanted 250-300 $ USD for an all night back at your casa, which I found to be to expensive.

    I then checked out the after hours at Luna Lunera, a little pricey to get in the door but there girls only wants $100 for a return to your casa for the night.

    As for that, I'll head to bed now, cheers.

  2. #64694
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.....
    I have been seeing this girl too frequently that someone is worrying about me. I asked her this week if she knew my name. She said "No", haha. The sex was mechanical so it was not as great as it could be. I know her well enough by now, so I know she is just doing her job. The last time we met is the same as the first time we met. I would say she does her job well. It is not because she provides great sex but she did it to her own standard on what her job is, like always on time, never ask for things, and doesn't rush.

    I repeat with her because the happiness and euphoria after sex can last for hours until the next day. The reason is because I am very into her, or you can say I am in love (but she is not in love with me). LOL. She is slender with great personal style. She can dress like a hooker, but I feel she is more like a model then a hooker. That is part of the attraction.

    I see another girl who is probably the hottest in my book. This one feels like a girlfriend and she is very good in bed. She would send me list of pictures and have me pick a style that she would come with. She does not know how things work yet. But even that, I am already paying her a large premium over the others. I messaged the "don't know my name girl" after sex to set up a date, and I had erection after receiving a reply from the "don't know my name girl". I learned that I could go again much faster under the right condition. LOL. The problem with this girl is she is too comfortable in my place so she exhibits some boyish behaviors and those kind of stuck in my mind to make her less attractive. The other day I found a piece of toilet paper with shit in the trash can is one example. LOL. So despite being hottest, and provides good service but I don't get the same euphoria feeling I have with "don't know my name girl".

    She (don't know how things work girl) flacked a few times. She would tell me she was preparing then after 1 hour she would tell me she wanted to be with her family doing things, or be late because she was watching movie and wanted to come after she was 2 hours late when movie ended. I put up with it because she is hot in my book and is rare. I don't contact her after she flacked, and she will eventually contact me and be ready and on time. Waiting does not bother me that much because I always have something to do. I have always been able to get another late at night when girls flacked.

  3. #64693
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.
    Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.
    Bullshit. You are only bonded because you see them everyday. It has nothing to do with genetics. I have a shitload of cousins that have the same genetics as me, but I am closer to the ones that I was around more often. They were all at my birthday parties and me at theirs, but only sharing those major life experiences had nothing to do with nothing. No kid or parent feels any strong bond when the kid did not grow up around the parent.

    Humans are weird creatures. Millions of people crying when Michael Jackson and John Lennon died even though they did not know them from a can of paint. But they heard their music and saw them dance on TV all the time so somehow they "felt" an emotional bond. Nobody cried when Alvin Ailey died because they did not see him dancing on TV everyday.

  4. #64692

    Good Old Medallo, Never Change

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamWl  [View Original Post]
    On a related note, I had a chat over a pony malta with centro SW recently that quoted me "50 mil y todo que quieres", said she works Poblado in the evenings, had a guy pay her 200 usd for un rato recently, normally she charges 300 mil there, bragged how she had 4 gringo boyfriends sending her money (where is all that cash gone now I wondered), one renting apartment for her, another older one offering to have baby with her but was infertile so wanted to buy a sperm first (biazzare), then she showed me her FB profile with photos that look 5 x better than her in a real life, to the point I was wondering if it's even her (make up and filters are no joke) and also said she wants to go to Spain to work at some point and then offered to share some tussi with me (no thanks).
    I have a bridge to sell you if you think she was telling you the truth. I know colombiana putas aren't the brightest tool in the shed, but no one who is already pulling that kind of bread elsewhere would go hooking for 13 usd "todo que quieres". I'm sure that's what she told you, but something ain't adding up. What's more likely is she's hard up for money without a steady source of income and she's unable / unwilling to find gainful employment so she sells her body in the streets for local market value, possibly to support a baby daddy and / or drug addiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    8/10 chicas you see walking around Llera go to centro in the day (the street llera girls.)
    I'm going to have to press 'X' to doubt dawg. Unless things have changed drastically in the past 6 months, I've been to the plaza enough times to extrapolate that between all the strung-out, overweight, underweight, too old, too young, and unwashed prepago masses that (granted while lleras isn't light years better) there is still a significant quality difference in term of general looks and hygiene between the two areas. Is it worth the price difference? Debateable. But I would say maybe only 2 or 3 /10 of the uglier chicas you see walking around lleras go to centro in the day. The prettier ones feel just as leery at the prospect of having to venture and be seen in centro as any person not blinded by drugs or lust. Most sane people, both foreign and domestic, just try to finish whatever business they needed to get done in centro as quickly as possible without getting mugged or worse. The only people who go to botero to hangout are johns and hookers (and oblivious tourists), everyone else there is either trying to sell or take something from the people passing through.

  5. #64691
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.
    I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.

    In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.

  6. #64690
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.
    And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.

    Many men seem to have a lot of romantic and abstract ideas about relationships (more than women in fact), 'forever together', hundreds of 'she should' s, get infatuated and think they are in love after a week, or many looking for a mother substitute.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    If she behaves like she likes you, it doesn't mean she actually likes you. It could mean that she is putting on an act so that she could earn some money again if you see her again. Now I would say It actually doesn't matter if you are happy with her performance and she is happy to earn money with you. I had a friend when I was in Mexico that was seeing this girl at the agency and he thought she was falling in love with him and enjoying the time with him. I had introduced him to the agency. Subsequently the agency told me that they prefer that he take his business elsewhere and that the girl despised being with him because she felt he was rude and rough with her. But when she was with him, she acted as if she liked him and cumming with him during sex. Girls can easily for you because guys want to believe it.
    I wasn't talking just about behavior during sex or a paid session. If a chica gives me great sex but then ignores me outside of that or doesn't want to hang out then it's obvious. I mean it's not a rocket science, but seems like he put no effort in finding out. If the guy paid the agency to fuck her, she came and gave him great time and he deducted she must be really into him just based on that then it's on him.

    Lots of 'she said' 'they said 'in the story, but anyway, by telling her boss she doesn't want to see him she didn't behave in a way that says she likes him then.

    He could've also taken a bold step and just ask as simple question. Hey, do you want to spend some time after work together or do you prefer we see each other just through agency? Done. But he was probably afraid because the answer would've put his constructed fantasy at the instant risk of disappearing.

    Then if she'd say yes, test her actual behavior outside of her work setting and in different circumstances to validate whether it matches the words and verify mutual compatibility. And stop paying per hour (I'm not saying not pay for shit, it's Latin America). Yes it requires some thought, time and effort but building / negotiating a relationship does.

    (Why would anyone even try put themselves through the ordeal of trying to build something with a professional WG is another story).

    Only way the to know for certain how she 'really' feels would be to be her (then you'd see half of the time she doesn't even know herself), which is obviously not going to happen. Next best thing is to watch and test the actual behavior over extended period of time (but honestly it doesn't take that much to figure it out).

    If she 'puts on an act' consistently over extended period of time and different circumstances, when tired, when drunk, when emotional, then it's no act but a reality.

  7. #64689
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    I agree and this iconic scene from Full Metal Jacket says it all.

    https://youtu.be/md_WfmSYAuQ?si=_7Ldcop8SESZ9uK6

    However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.
    I agree with you 100. How hard is it to fall in "love" with Leonardo DiCaprio or bezos or Eddie Murphy. They have homes all over and yachts. It's all fake. If a girl isn't attractive I'm not interested, if I'm broke they aren't interested.

  8. #64688
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you.
    I agree and this iconic scene from Full Metal Jacket says it all.

    https://youtu.be/md_WfmSYAuQ?si=_7Ldcop8SESZ9uK6

    However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.

  9. #64687

    Check MIG glitches

    If you're filling out to checkmig form, and it just won't work or you keep getting an error message, sometimes you're not doing anything wrong. Often it is because you filled out one of the blanks wrong. But on a few occasions including on this trip, what I'm filling out the form on my phone and doing everything right, I get an error message saying my flight number is wrong. I was using the Google Chrome browser and I kept getting that error message. So I switched to Firefox and everything worked. Now twice they got the airline wrong when I filled out the flight number but that seems to be okay. As long as you get the confirmation, it doesn't matter. Others say if you're on the phone, switch to the computer or vice versa. Now I would add switch browsers if you're running into some glitch. One glitch is a drop down menu, that is just gray and has no selection. So if you're running into a problem, try switching internet browsers and it may help.

    I was getting frustrated for a while but eventually it worked. Just one of those things.

  10. #64686

    If she behaves like she likes you, It doesn't mean she likes you

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you. What other proof do you guys want, words or notarized contacts? Assurances it will always be so? Not going to happen, hooker or not. Promises that she likes you best or doesn't like someone else too? Don't be needy.
    If she behaves like she likes you, it doesn't mean she actually likes you. It could mean that she is putting on an act so that she could earn some money again if you see her again. Now I would say It actually doesn't matter if you are happy with her performance and she is happy to earn money with you. I had a friend when I was in Mexico that was seeing this girl at the agency and he thought she was falling in love with him and enjoying the time with him. I had introduced him to the agency. Subsequently the agency told me that they prefer that he take his business elsewhere and that the girl despised being with him because she felt he was rude and rough with her. But when she was with him, she acted as if she liked him and cumming with him during sex. Girls can easily for you because guys want to believe it.

  11. #64685
    If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you. What other proof do you guys want, words or notarized contacts? Assurances it will always be so? Not going to happen, hooker or not. Promises that she likes you best or doesn't like someone else too? Don't be needy.

  12. #64684

    Nothing to complain about you know I

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomars777  [View Original Post]
    This should be required learning for anyone who travels to Colombia for chicas. They do not love you, but you want them to act like they do.

    Truly, we all know they're lying, if you think they're not lying, that's just another lie you're believing. Bottom line, it's ok. As I always tell the girls, I know you're acting, but please be a good actress! No dead fish, please!

    When you find good actresses, they really are a gem, rare finds that you should be thankful you were lucky enough to encounter as there's so many poor ones out there!
    I feel exactly the same way. If she acts like she likes you, that she's enjoying the sex, that she enjoys being with you and is always excited to see you and wants to see you again, Even if she is acting and lying, there's nothing to complain about. Enjoy the act and have fun with her. The only harm comes if you were planning something more with her. Otherwise, it is all good fun and you should go along with the ride.

  13. #64683
    Bogota is hands down a eutter gastronomic destination than Medellin, in terms of variety, quality and quantity. That said, Medellin has more than enough high quality options for a two to three week vacation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Based on your prior post, it seems to imply that if you google, then you will find these restaurants mentioned in majority of the search result. Right?

  14. #64682

    Update

    Here's an update on the 32 year old American from Tennessee who was found dead in his hotel room in Poblado two days ago.

    https://youtu.be/jfhVuGzbMzE?si=w1LcihP7B5dNEThu

    Follow Along.

  15. #64681
    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoverFL  [View Original Post]
    hey will be coming for Carmen, El Cielo, X. O. , Oci. Mde, La Chagra, Gabo. Mde, etc. Some of these, like El Cielo, have already earned their own Michelin stars in USA Cities where they have opened branches. It seems you don't think this is legitimate travel; but it is, and it drives a large portion of the worldwide tourism to major food destinations.
    Thanks. I was waiting for you to drop some names of spots that people would travel to Medellin for. While I still find it hard to believe that people would dish out the airfare and lodging in Medellin solely to visit the places you named, I have to visit these spots to give them a fair assessment.

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