Medellin Reports

[Legal Tender]

one of the rules that jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. i've been mongering 22 years. we all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. we all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. most of the world would criticize all of us. you choose to criticize me because i go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). there sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. there's a reason jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. i'm surprised all of you don't know that.

nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. i'm back in the states now and no telling if i'll ever get to medellin again. i'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. i expect to be in cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. loved my time in medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. loved it!

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

twisted replies to questions about his having sex with high volume street walkers without a condom by (1) suggesting that safe sex issues are reserved by jackson for a thread on that topic, and (2), since he enjoys that behavior, it shouldn't be the subject of comment. maybe he's right, but i'm always curious what drives someone to such reckless behavior. possible pathology? but to each his own. contrast that with tweedle's advice to always us a condom.

more substantively, i can't believe most mongers want to follow tweedle's "ten commandments." i don't know an experienced monger that has gone to colombia for many years that hasn't developed more than p4p relationship with a girl or two. an "attachment" is not a bad thing. i dare say that at least on some level we all want intimacy on a level other than sex. being interested in a girl's life does not equate with marriage. besides, there is nothing better than the "i know you care about me" sex.

i agree about no sex with **** girls. but if you're a usa citizen or lawful resident, it is a federal felony to travel outside the usa and have sex with an individual under 18, nothwithstanding the age of consent in the other country.

it's interesting how different folks view their time with the beautiful women of medellin.

only good energy!

[JustTheKid]

Hey Greg,

If you fancy hooking up to explore some of SA's hidden treasures while Aus try to assemble some credibility at cricket, feel free to contact me. I live in CPT. It can be quite a fun place in SA summer.

I'm in Medellin from 29 Aug for 1 week. Anybody fancy meeting up for some girly fun?

Hi Mel,

Yep, the only issue for her was no buses on Monday and the land slide on the road to Bogota from Medellin.

Cricket, great, spent 3 months in India and Bangladesh early this year watching the Australian team get flogged, going to Australia for our summer to watch England play in Australia on home soil and then on the way back to Colombia, a month and a half in South Africa watching Australia get flogged again, and a few wildlife tours in Zim and Zambia. I'll need a holiday mate in St Maartin when I get back!

Medellin team! I conduct interviews nearly every night mate "its a girl team"!

A. G.

[Combo]

Threesomes can be fantastic. The key is you need to have them in a safe setting with girls that you know. But yes, you can run into trouble if you're not smart about them. I've had dozens of very good threesomes in Rio (and a few foursomes). In MDE, I've had a few good ones, though the Paisas don't tend to be as wild as the Garotas.

QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1464623]If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.[/QUOTE]

[SlamCity7777]

If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.

Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most. Even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. By returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. Requests for money beyond that agreed to. A request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. With each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

Then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. Those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts...

[Combo]

very well-written. i have to say i agree with them all.

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

[Lefeu]

Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most.

4. Do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from,

5. Before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in Thailand and the Philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services.

Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.

[TweedleD]

i like what you say, i'd go down that rabbit hole, i got nothin better to do.

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *****monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *****monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

[Cm6363]

On the last night of my last trip in March, I went to a disco that was part of a late night 5 or 6 bar / disco complex that was south of Poblado just off the highway. Was fun and I noticed it was mostly non-pro, but I did notice some gringo deals cut and a pair offered themselves to me too. I enjoy all of the offerings of Medellin, except high end night clubs, but this is my favorite way to play.

Does anyone know the name of this area? I think the best time to go would be 1 am or later. Does that seem right?

Better yet, can anyone please recommend their favorite discos for finding ladies who want to go semi-pro for a few hours or a night?

Thanks!

[Combo]

Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150. 000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks

Well, if they're Mansion girls, they're going to ask for what they get at the Mansion, which is usually 150k. Having said that, what they ask for is not necessarily what one should pay.

[TwistedBrother]

One of the rules that Jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. I've been mongering 22 years. We all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. We all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. Most of the world would criticize All of us. You choose to criticize me because I go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). There sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. There's a reason Jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. I'm surprised all of you don't know that.

Nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. I'm back in the states now and no telling if I'll ever get to Medellin again. I'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. I expect to be in Cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. Loved my time in Medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. Loved it!

[El Bacano]

I like what you say, I'd go down that rabbit hole, I got nothing better to do.

[SlamCity7777]

I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.

+1000 to this LT!

Let's be honest; Sex with a condom sucks! Having your dick fall off or your life impacted with an SDT sucks way more! Like LT said you essentially chose to go raw dog with a low level street walker type working girl that has no super vision, no required testing, ect. There is a big difference in going raw with a girl like that and say a girl you pick up in the states at a bar. Shit! Even the working girls at the lowest level in the sates know better than to go raw with a first time client!

If you're going to play the game you got to play smart, no silly or stupid turn overs.

[TweedleD]

I love women. I love working girls. I love women who are working girls because they give me the best sexual bang for my money, I don't get hassles or problems that I can't get rid of within ten or fifteen minutes, I don't have to deal with a woman's historical baggage, and the best thing of all about working girls and my approach to them is that I'm almost never bored. I'm always getting surprises. It is the element of surprise that tops my list of priorities. Which is another way of saying that I am, in everything I do, a dedicated, irrepressible butterfly. To put the matter differently, I am committed to promiscuity in all of its many possible meanings. I'm promiscuous in what I read, in what I eat, in the company I seek, in the drugs I do, in the movies and museums I visit, and of course in my sex life. Well, I am not entirely promiscuous in my sex life; I am thoroughly heterosexual.

For nearly sixteen years I have traveled the world, and largely, often almost exclusively, for the purpose of whoring with girls and women. Argentina, Peru, Cambodia, China, the Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Brazil, Myanmar, Thailand, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Italy, Mexico, the Philippines, Cuba, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Honduras, Australia—just about any place where you find working girls in one guise or another. In brothels, bars, the street, discos, back alleys, truck stops, massage parlors, restaurants, tea houses, the beach.

I cannot in all honesty say exactly how many working girls—different ones—I've been with since I seriously began my travels in search of sexual adventure and variety. I've never kept track of the actual number. Nor have I had any interest in doing so. If I had to venture a guess, however, I'the say that over the sixteen years that I have pursued my hobby with immodest zest I have averaged between 50 and 70 different couplings a year; in 2003, an above average year, the number exceeded 100.

I have strong memories of the best of these half hour, three hour, one day, one night sexual adventures: mental pictures of where I had sex, what I did with the girl or woman, what she looked like, how she dressed and behaved, how we began and how we parted. My library of memories is solely in my head. I have never taken a single photograph of a woman with whom I have had sex. The cold truth is that I cannot remember the names of more than twenty percent of the hundreds and hundreds of women I have been with. I only needed to know a name when we hooked up, in order to be able to show her some respect and to increase the pleasure of what we did by making it less impersonal. Invariably, though, within a day or two, only the experience and the memory mattered, and a name for most of the women I'the been with quickly became an irrelevancy. For within a day or two of a sexual coupling, sometimes hours, I would find myself in pursuit of yet another girl or woman. My thoughts would be tightly focused on what I might like to try next: as to shape, age, color, disposition, weight, dress, in addition to all those sexual matters that any serious *****monger obsesses about—the approach, the pause, the lingering warm up, two-holing or three-holing, the kissing and embraces, the shower together, and the leaving. Variation and novel combinations are always the real issue. Repetition and the familiar are to be avoided as much as possible. They are the banes of all marriages, all relationships, all friendships.

By about the third year of my global *****mongering I had developed a firm list of rules, or what I would tell myself were the Ten Commandments of a Happy *****monger. I share them here for the benefit of other *****mongers. No doubt many have lists of their own dos and don'ts. Even perhaps superior to and more detailed than mine.

[Legal Tender]

Finally found a girl with a bunch of others in a doorway for one of the ultra-cheap notels. She had this cute face and I went for it. She looked good, but turned out to be flabby, hairy and so on. Beyond the face, not much appeal.

But I had paid for the shitty little room and went for it. Got her to ditch the condoms and give me BBFS. She was nice, but otherwise not great. After I was done, I walked around awhile more, got something to eat, chatted with a few folks (LOL) , saw a lot of chicks who made me think,"Damn, I should have picked her," then finally got the hell out.

I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.

[Cm6363]

Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150.000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks