Medellin Reports

[Kafka]

Yes, I definitely would go without being vaccinated. I I think you'd be crazy to go down there without being vaccinated.

Another thing travelers are not adding into their calculus: what if you go down there and happen to catch COVID? Do you really want to be in a situation where there is no room for you in the ICU with the current levels almost at 100% capacity? What if they have to transport you out of the city to a place where you have no connections and are trying to get by with your kindergarten Spanish-speaking skills? Talk about a nightmare scenario!

[Osteoknot]

I am not seeing much discussion about vaccination status as the path back to normality. I am NOT talking about whether or not you believe in the vaccine or politicizing it, I don't care. But I believe the handwriting is on the wall that being vaccinated is going to be required for international travel. I have been back in the USA for two weeks and in that short time there have appeared two huge, free, drive through vaccination stations set up in the busiest areas of the city. I don't need to be vaccinated, I am still immune, I didn't really want one, but they made it so easy, I did not have to get out of my car or show ID to get vaccinated, for free. I have an appointment for my second dose. Colombia won't be like it was until a critical mass of it's population is vaccinated. I don't have a timetable for that but the drug companies are trying to vaccinate the entire world, not just the USA, obviously. The buzzword I keep hearing is "vaccination passport."

[Surfer500]

Another thing travelers are not adding into their calculus: what if you go down there and happen to catch COVID? Do you really want to be in a situation where there is no room for you in the ICU with the current levels almost at 100% capacity? What if they have to transport you out of the city to a place where you have no connections and are trying to get by with your kindergarten Spanish-speaking skills? Talk about a nightmare scenario!

You bring up an issue I grappled with back in November when I came down to Medellin for a week, albeit at the time the ICU's were not overflowing. Back in November there were no testing requirements to either enter or leave the Country, and at that time I had not been vaccinated so I decided to come down for a week and also took out a health insurance policy for the week I'd be here. The specter of being in a Hospital in Colombia, which for many issues would not be a problem, but for COVID I don't think so given the limited availability of treatments. So for my trip in November my rationale was if I got infected I would most probably be back in the USA by the time I knew it as the thought of being hospitalized in a foreign country doesn't sound good.

For anyone contemplating coming down to Colombia in the near future I would strongly recommend three things.

First make sure you have been vaccinated, secondly, have medical coverage that covers COVID, and is acceptable at most of the Hospitals, albeit availability may be an issue, and lastly, wait until the current surge has subsided and there are no more weekend lockdowns.

I've been vaccinated and have worldwide health coverage, so I'm just waiting for the weekend lockdowns to end, and suspect there are many other board members sitting on the "side lines" like myself ready to leap, and hopefully sooner than later.

I have so many wives, candy girls, and coffee girls whom are walking the streets of Medellin waiting for my return!

[Surfer500]

The rule I've been using for the past year is 6 weeks. Whatever a city or country does takes about 6 weeks before you will see results.

This works both ways. When the US started with the lockdowns and masks things looked much better after 6 weeks. When states reopened schools, after 6 weeks we were in another surge.

It actually takes 4 weeks before numbers should start dropping, but it takes an additional 2 weeks to get below the level you were at before you took action.

If these lockdowns are effective, ICU numbers should be coming down before the end of April and should look much better by mid May.

The lockdowns I'm sure are helping, but will they be enough.

On Saturday El Colombiano had an article that the hospitals in Antoquioa are now conducting "ethical triage" to determine who gets an ICU bed if there is no availability even after looking for Hospital beds outside of Antoquioa. I think this is the worst it's been since the Pandemic in Colombia, yet I hope what your hoping for is true, because if things don't start going in the opposite direction this could be going on for a while like in Brazil.

Such a sad mess for Colombia, as up until a few weeks ago things were about as close to "normal" as they could be. And the cycle worldwide you have described is like a "bell curve", hence moving forward visits to Colombia may have to be timed accordingly to coincide with the "lockdown windows" on the curve. So mongering in Colombia has now taken on a new dimension at least for me as to when to return and I suspect others as well.

[SpiderRider]

Interesting topic.

In the past 10 years here in Medellin I, like a thousand others, have met hundreds if not more than a thousand single mothers raising their kids as the Colombian biological father just fucks them and when they get pregnant find another.

I personally know one paisa who had a baby with a costeno who lived in Medellin, he has had 9 baby's with 8 different women and this in not out of the realm of normal by any measure rather the culture ingrained in the majority of the women is that them getting pregnant with such a guapo is like wining a lottery.

He does not pay a dime for any of the 9 kids and as this information is now 3 years old chances are that he has had 4 to 6 more babies.

And this guy is not necessarily attractive rather in fact he is chubby, about 40 yo now, and drives a delivery truck.

Other single moms I know personally, most are in starta 2 to 4, if they get something from the biological father it is about 150 mil a month.

I have also met a few gringo (from Canada) biological fathers and my experience is that they too, even though they have the means to support their baby / kid the find good lawyers to get them out of payment.

Now I have a real twist to this pregnancy thing.

I happen to have an extremely rare color of eyes which are not only rare in the worlds population but especially so in Colombia.

So I often have young and very fertile paisas and Venezuelans, once I get to know them, ask me if I would impregnate them as in their words "I would have the dream baby with your European traits and very rare color eyes", this is no joke as this is a regular occurrence and they are serious.

So I need to be careful. In the past 2 month alone I have had 3 serious offers to impregnate them, they even go so far as saying that they will not hold me financially responsible, right!

The Tall Man.

Yes, I've been told I have eyes "of a Barbie Doll". Ha ha.

[Surfer500]

The whole curfews and lockdowns are a bunch of BS. All anyone needs to do is compare the Covid stats of Florida and California. Florida is practically completely open, and has been for months, while California has been closed. The per capita stats of the two states are almost the same.

For the comparison of Florida and California, I agree, the lockdowns in California didn't seem to make any difference.

But I don't think you can use the same logic when it comes to Colombia, with the differences being the percentage of people being vaccinated, the housing situation with multi-generational families living together, and the variants in Colombia.

Regardless, time will tell. If we see a drop in infections within the next few weeks and the weekend lockdowns stop, that is great news and perhaps indicate they helped, if not, we might never know.

All very depressing regardless of how you look at things.

[Jbj64]

I am usually going down on them and then I usually slip it in and don't say anything, usually I get the "condom amor" but sometimes you get lucky.

Jbj64,

Do you discuss bareback with these chicas before meeting, or are you finding that in the moment, these chicas don't ask you to wrap up?

Thank you.

[JjBee62]

For me personally, as soon as the weekend lockdowns stop, "I'll be back".

Three weekends ago when there was only an evening curfew starting at 5 PM and ending the following morning it was tolerable when I was there, as I was able to get out everyday, so I was okay with it. But being caged in for 72 hours at a time just wasn't going to work for me, hence I departed.

According to an article in El Colombiano today, the same weekend lockdown scenario will take place starting next weekend from Thursday at 8 PM until Monday morning.

In regards to whether it's worthwhile for someone to visit Colombia, that is most probably a definite "no" for most mongers until the weekend lockdowns cease, but nobody knows when they will end.

I track what's going on everyday, and the numbers are not going in the right direction in regards to ICU capacity which the Colombian government has been using as it's metric to make the lockdown decisions.

I am have resigned myself, based on what is happening in the other South American Countries that it might be a while until this surge abates and envision this 4/3 Lockdown scenario could easily go thru May or longer, but I hope I am dead wrong as I'm climbing the walls to return.

The rule I've been using for the past year is 6 weeks. Whatever a city or country does takes about 6 weeks before you will see results.

This works both ways. When the US started with the lockdowns and masks things looked much better after 6 weeks. When states reopened schools, after 6 weeks we were in another surge.

It actually takes 4 weeks before numbers should start dropping, but it takes an additional 2 weeks to get below the level you were at before you took action.

If these lockdowns are effective, ICU numbers should be coming down before the end of April and should look much better by mid May.

[SavePros321]

So this next week will determine how worthwhile it is to visit Colombia for the coming month or two.

Another thing travelers are not adding into their calculus: what if you go down there and happen to catch COVID? Do you really want to be in a situation where there is no room for you in the ICU with the current levels almost at 100% capacity? What if they have to transport you out of the city to a place where you have no connections and are trying to get by with your kindergarten Spanish-speaking skills? Talk about a nightmare scenario!

[LoveItHere69]

Aren't complete lockdown for the week ends only? My understanding is that from 5 a to 8 p during week days you can walk outside.

Oops! I typed Thursday but meant Friday. Curfew days are Mon-Thurs. Lockdown is Fri-Sun. But can change as I am typing this.

Saturday nothing to report except the excitement of watching a police officer with a city employee leading 2 separate phone accessory carts to the police station because they are not supposed to be out. Food cart would have been OK. Yes, I should have taken a picture it is so hard to believe.

[SavePros321]

All of those charts indicate that we are at the peak right now and things are going to get dramatically better. Thanks.

Nobody in Colombia is predicting anything other than more lockdowns and restrictions in the coming weeks. So unless you know something that the people in charge there don't, you are expressing optimism at best.

Don't forget the ICU rate in Medellin was 90% the week before Santa Semana, and is only shot up since then.

[Fun Luvr]

Aren't complete lockdown for the week ends only? My understanding is that from 5 a to 8 p during week days you can walk outside.

The Medellinguru website reports that El Colombiano reported today that the curfew will be in effect next week from 8 pm to 5 am, and the lockdown will also be in effect from Thursday, April 22, at 8 pm until Monday, April 26, at 5 am. The pico y cedula schedule also will change next week, according to Medellinguru. To answer your question, yes, during the day from Monday morning until Thursday evening, you are allowed to be outside as much as you want.

The whole curfews and lockdowns are a bunch of BS. All anyone needs to do is compare the Covid stats of Florida and California. Florida is practically completely open, and has been for months, while California has been closed. The per capita stats of the two states are almost the same.

[Kafka]

All of those charts indicate that we are at the peak right now and things are going to get dramatically better. Thanks.

Projections from this website give you an idea on how things will turn out Covidwise in Colombia.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/colom...aths&tab=trend

[BigButtDetecto]

I wouldn't plan anything until Bogata announces what's going to be happening it seems like an extension the current curfew guidelines are inevitable and it appears that going to make even more drastic decisions based on the numbers that are coming in in some areas of the country..... Possibly even a month-long national lockdown?

Projections from this website give you an idea on how things will turn out Covidwise in Colombia.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/colom...aths&tab=trend

[BigButtDetecto]

Police pickup truck with 4 people caught in the back. Big canopy covered truck had around 10 people caught by police. I saw them grab 3 people but no idea how they are picking the lucky ones. While others just walk around not bothered. Still some girls out and available. I took 2 repeats I saw wandering around today. No two girls tomorrow. Nearly had a heart attack.

Aren't complete lockdown for the week ends only? My understanding is that from 5 a to 8 p during week days you can walk outside.