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  1. #40829

    There is almost no reliable business data on camming about the models

    Quote Originally Posted by Incrociatore  [View Original Post]
    Quoted. I also reported here my recent meeting with one of them, a standard 130 k at my place. She is saving for a motorbike and a boobs job.
    Nature of the beast. At least none that I can find on the InterWeb. My best guess? 2% of the girls are making a nice living. 10-20% are getting by. 80% try it and have to drop out in a year or less. The people who own the sites are getting rich. Supposedly there is a high rise building in Medellin where every floor, every room, is occupied by a cam model. Anyone else heard this or can verify? I am pretty sure they don't get free tours, jaja.

  2. #40828
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    Whats happening on the ground over there.
    These were made last weekend.

    Tis video is by an expat that lives in Medellin, for a YouTube video its a little long but and during the middle he gets into a long conversation with another expat about why they chose to live in Medellin. At about the 24:40 he usms it up when he says "it is is picking up it is not what it was but it is almost there".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iUvGSvFZ4

    This guy stops and talking to the door promotor at Gusto.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbxNtkkAIeE

  3. #40827
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?

    As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.
    Nobody else has any effect on the price I pay.

  4. #40826
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.
    You can buy lunch or dinner for under 1 k. I'll happily spend 15k to buy lunch before doing the deed. If I want a no-frills fuck I'd go to a casa.

    That 15k gives the girl a chance to get comfortable with you. It slows down the pace, which for me means a better and longer session.

    If 15k is going to break your budget you picked the wrong hobby.

  5. #40825

    The average girl from Medellin is cleaner than all the girls I fucked in high school

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDan  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.
    And my high school was in a good part of town in the good ol' US of A, jjaaja. I find the Medellin girls are obsessed with cleanliness. All my regulars and even the majority of the new ones. Usually the last words out of their moufuses before we meet is "I'll take a shower before I call the taxi. " In fact, I told Sexy Dexy to stop showering right before she arrived because I wanted to taste something real and not just soap and perfume when I ate her out. The one exception is GI Jane, who would usually come see me directly from work where she gets sweaty and has to hustle. ONE time I asked her to jump in the shower after we started sex and she laughed, took zero offense and happily complied. If you're dealing with a random street puta, then she might ask to use your shower or you can point her in that direction, I don't think she will be offended. BTW, don't be surprised if your girl avoids the hot water. Some girls love it, but I think something like 80%+ of these girls, maybe higher, live without hot water, and they are used to it. I've showered with two separate girls who laughed at me because I was "afraid" of the cold water. Chalk it up to another cross-cultural experience and go with the flow (punny).

    Disclaimer: All my posts and opinions are based on a pre-Covid Medellin, I got out right before the quarantine.

    Random gratuitous foto: I took this screenshot but have never met this Cali girl, yet. She swears she wants to hook up and I have not ever been ghosted, but there is always a first time. Usually I have my hooks in them pretty deep by the time we agree to meet, and they are leaving a snail trail on their way to my door. I'll let you know. Her face is a 7 with make-up. But that body is as close to a ten for me as I will come. 9+. I might tell you the punch line in a future post, but it will be so much sweeter if I wait until after I use her body like my personal playground.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Rifigure_LI2.jpg‎  

  6. #40824
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.
    As I said, you're going to want to invest in some quality hand cream.

  7. #40823
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    Whats my next steps to get on the plane.
    I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.

  8. #40822
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

    Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.
    For some, that is true. For others it isn't.

    I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.

    For those who don't know the story:

    I shared an apartment with a webcam model for almost 10 months. She's a successful webcam model. She's 30 years younger than me. I met almost her entire family, some of her friends and her ex boyfriend. All of them knew she's a webcam model. For the record she comes from an estrato 4 family.

    On the other side, about 4 years ago a webcam model in Medellin jumped off a bridge in front of a metro train after some guy threatened to tell her family.

  9. #40821
    Well said. Great advice on negotiations.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.

    Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.

    If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.

    It's incredibly simple.

    1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.

    2. Talk nicely to her.

    3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.

    4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.

    5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.

    If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?

    Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.

    Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.

    Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.

  10. #40820
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

    Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.
    For some, that is true. For others it isn't.

    I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.

    For th.

  11. #40819
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.

    If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.

    I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.

    However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.

    But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.
    Not really true for Colombia, amongst friends. A female friend will ask if you are inviting her, "me invitas", or she may tell you "te invito." In Colombia, inviting means your treat. It's perfectly acceptable to ask a female friend if she wants to go eat or drink without picking up the tab.

  12. #40818
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

    A girl on seeking.

    1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

    2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

    3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

    She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

    4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

    5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

    While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM..
    A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?

    If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?

  13. #40817

    You are right

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.
    Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?

    As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.

  14. #40816
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Hey this is a great post. It shares personal experience. I found a woman that is great in the bedroom and at keeping me company. I found her on my 1st try lookiing for someone. So I always wondered if all women were so great or if there was just some things special about her. would it be hard to find someone like her again?
    You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.

  15. #40815
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.

    .
    Yes agree and some make that an excuse. One even cut the date short with me saying the communication was an issue. And I have about 30-40% Spanish, not fluent and conversational but certainly enough to get by with basics. So it happens occasionally with ones that are in demand. But most are patient with you, definitely the ones that want a repeat date.

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