Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.

The first time I was offered 2 million COP as an option at a Davivienda ATM was nearly 4 years ago. Initially I thought it was just because of the Christmas season. Three years ago I saw it at all the Davivienda ATMs I used, but others, using cards from other banks could only draw a smaller amount. This past June 2 million was offered for both of my banks, and it appears it's available for most now. I'm not sure something Davivienda started doing at the end of 2017 is an indication of recent changes.

As for the degradation of Facebook, I can only speak for my experiences and I haven't seen the same things. However, my approach might be different. I don't treat it as a transaction. With most girls I have a short, normal conversation and set up a time. I'll ask what she likes to drink and make sure the time is good for her.

What I don't discuss is service. I don't list out my requirements or expectations. The reason I don't discuss requirements is because I don't have any. Each one is unique and I would rather let things develop naturally depending on the girl.

Obviously, if you have certain requirements that won't work, but once you start listing your requirements you change the nature of the encounter. My (probably wrong) opinion is that may be the source of the problem people seem to have with Facebook.

Just today some girl hit me up from Facebook. I've never talked to her before, but it quickly becomes obvious she's offering P P. Then she says something that I've seen a few times: "I'm not a puta, I'm just doing this out of necessity. " That's the mindset of many Facebook girls. I could have pointed out that most putas are just doing it out of necessity, but there's no benefit. If she feels more comfortable pretending that I'm just a friend who gives her money after she fucks me, I'm good with that.

Once you start listing the things she's going to do to you, it's just work. Again my opinion is that is an excuse to be late, to not put forth her best effort and to ask for more money.

I developed those opinions when I was doing a lot of one night stands everywhere I went in the US, with women I met online. The worst experiences were when either me or the girl would try to set up a list of expectations. The best ones were when I just said that we would just see what happens.

[Member #4740]

If anyone want girlfriendly App directly on the Action I recommend this App. The real location is https://goo.gl/maps/QT3KtrfWfGp3whtU9.

Airbnb will give you fake location. No human security in entrance, only electronic access code to the doors.

Type "WalkScore 100 in Poblado ♥ 150 Mb WiFi ●Wash+Dryer" on search or use the link.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4332383...sts=1&adults=1

I didn't like the street girls so I moved on. Beside you walk in this hill area like a goat. Girls will talk to you as soon as you go down from the App after 8 PM.

[BlackThought]

You can lump all recreational drug use into one big pile or you can have a Discerning mind and realize that there's a wave coming in the future of performance-enhancing drugs just as in the same way a lot of you right now are taking antidepressants or mood stabilizers to improve deficits. But in the near future, pharmaceutical companies will be selling drugs as mental and intellectual performance enhancers to people without any perceived mental health or physical diagnosis.

Lots of studies coming out on the benefits of psychedelics / MDMA therapy. Funny how people demonize "drugs", yet are fine with caffeine / alcohol. I've enjoyed reading your adventures in MDE.

[Mr Enternational]

These folks have no business travelling internationally and if they do are subject to the natural laws of predator v. S. Prey. Lolol.

None of us were born with the knowledge we have today. I speak 5 languages and when someone asks me how I learned them I say 1 word at a time, same as the first one when you were a kid. Or you could just keep your mouth closed and not even try and not learn shit.

The person is doing the right thing by asking advice and collecting information before such undertakings instead of just staying home wallowing in ignorance as you propose. You have to start somewhere; or maybe you are different than every other mf that has been born on this planet. Even predators started out as prey or are prey to other predators.

[Mr Enternational]

I've actually never been to a casa or strip club I'm Colombia. But I definitely keep low key and don't lease around central. All you "seasoned mongers" can have el centro. My pussy ass will stay with what I know and where it's safe amongst people I trust.

But you did not always know what you know or know the people you trust now. At one time those things and people were unknown and new to you as well. So how do you decide the things and people that you will learn about and get to know?

[BlackThought]

Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls

Idiots probably have a target on their backs now. Prime candidates to get robbed, developing countries are the wrong place to do this.

[Villainy]

The story comes out the same if you replace the AirBnb with hotel. There is nothing to gain by replacing hotel with Airbnb. I am guessing the point is if the girl is not part of it, a clarification will be helpful to the girl. I know Otee's posting as it happened and the presumed facts can change once more evidences are known.

I don't know why you guys are approaching girls when you already think they are too young. You will get noticed.

Seriously? You think an Air BnB and an upscale hotel are the same? Her story smacks of lies. Most AirBnBs don't have porteros, (some do) most owners wouldn't dream of calling the police if they saw someone bringing a girl to their room that appeared too young. They might very well tell the guy to get the fuck out afterwards. Now that wouldn't surprise me at all. BTW even if the cops followed her to the AirBnB how did they get in? How did they know what room he was in? None of her story makes sense.

BUT he was staying in a high end hotel with a 24 hour registration desk and a 24 hour security guard inside. Girls don't go up to someone's room they have to register and the staff would simply not grant her entrance if they were suspicious of her cedula. So for her story to make sense the cops followed her from El Centro to this luxury hotel in Laureles and followed her into the hotel and waited for her to register and then asked what room she went to and went up there.

OR maybe a more reasonable possibility is that she was working with those guys for a cut of the extortion even though she actually was of age. If you think about it. That is the only thing that makes much sense.

[Nounce]

...The girl's story you heard was clearly wrong. He was staying in a very high-end hotel not an Air BnB. .....

The story comes out the same if you replace the AirBnb with hotel. There is nothing to gain by replacing hotel with Airbnb. I am guessing the point is if the girl is not part of it, a clarification will be helpful to the girl. I know Otee's posting as it happened and the presumed facts can change once more evidences are known.

I don't know why you guys are approaching girls when you already think they are too young. You will get noticed.

[Member #4729]

Over tourism, with an influx of newbie mongers, is clearly one of the main sources of this problem, but it is clearly having impacts on Medellin beyond mongering in general. For example, the guys selling soccer jerseys and other random stuff were more aggressive than they were even just a few months ago in July. They seemed to be offended that I did not want to buy their stuff, as if they were somehow entitled to a sale. Even the guys selling soda from carts in Centro asked for tips for selling me soda during my street meat runs and seemed offended when I disregarded their requests. This does not sound like the Medellin that I came to know and love; it is now more like over touristed places, such as Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic.

Over-aggressive and abundant hawkers are a visible and powerful street-level indicator of what is also happening in a private sex transactions. It looks like Medellin is at the tipping point- and as you say as soon as the prices are quoted in USD, that's a wrap.

This summer I saw multiple gringo's paying for jerseys / trinkets and in restaurants with USD. If you are so f-ing lazy that you can't be bothered to change your currency, then just stay home dude.

Looks to me like the scene is cooked and any competitive advantage it might've had is now gone. As I've noted before, this is not exactly an easy scene to begin with. In LATAM, I much prefer Brazil and don't mind the higher cost of getting there. Keeps the riff-raff out.

[Bill]

I am by no means a Colombian expert, but I come from a worse 3rd world country where prostitution isn't legal.

Shake downs like this are common, often most by cops in vice, as security and police are often not required to show badges and the oversight is non existent, it is hard to identify non cops.

Usually the bait is either a GF of or partner in the scam, and usually its a turf thing, scammers from another area wouldn't dare enter some else's turf.

I am glad that you are safe and got out with minimal losses.

What is your advice to avoid such a scam in Colombia?

Asking advice from those unqualified to give it, is like following a 10 dollar bill attached to fishing line into a dark alley LOL.

I like the old saying " When in Rome, do as the Romans do". Some people don't understand what this means.

These folks have no business travelling internationally and if they do are subject to the natural laws of predator v. S. Prey. Lolol.

"I pity the fool" Mr. T circa 1983.

[Tasss]

It's Official: Medellin is the New Costa Rica..

This is why we can't have nice things.

These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.

[JjBee62]

Assuming everything Osteoknot wrote really happened, I don't think he was dealing with the real police. The "investigator" probably wasn't wearing a police uniform. How about the other three, uniforms? The fact that the "investigator" was in the area where Osteoknot was staying for the next two days lends more credence to it being a scam. I know for a fact there are civilians, claiming to be policemen, looking for gringos to shake down. I had two encounters with them. I didn't go along with their scheme, but neither had a gun. When Osteoknot returns to Medellin, I wish he would go to the police station and ask if they know the "investigator".

As for Villainy's statement "The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. " How does he know that? Does he think there are no hotel employees who work with scammers?

The first part is certainly a possibility. Although I'm sure if you look hard enough you could find a Colombian cop who could be convinced to accept a bribe.

With the final part, Villainy has been living there for a year or more. If anyone knows about that location, it's probably him.

[DzikaBomba]

Does someone have experience with finding Freelancer in Medellin through Tinder? I read here a lot about Facebook, but not about using Tinder for that.

Is this also a possible way for Hunting? Please share your experience. Because I'm not so into facebook and I'm thinking about tinder Gold for Hunting there, but I don't know if this brings success in Medellin.

[Balboa]

It's Official: Medellin is the New Costa Rica.

This early October trip to Medellin was my sixth visit to that city, and it might be my last one for a while. The unfavorable changes to the Medellin Facebook scene in the past year, including price inflation, a high rate of cita flakery, and a decrease in certain aspects of the quality of service, have made it a less attractive and competitive destination. I tried a new approach after similar results on my last trip in July and decided to give Medellin a second chance, but it only succeeded in partially mitigating this deteriorating situation..

Hmmm I've been saying that since after 1999 when I was the only gringo in town, except maybe the Tall man maybe, Lol.

Times change though, either roll with it or move on I guess.

I'll always enjoy Medellin, though it's far from my favorite place anymore.

[Balboa]

What is your advice to avoid such a scam in Colombia?

Colombia or anywhere; have your fun and enjoy, but be smart, low key, not the center of attention, most especially when breaking the rules a bit (drugs, etc).

Common sense really.