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  1. #66130
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    If I'm not mistaken Colombia receives millions if not billions of dollars from the US government every year in the form of defense funding, weapons, munitions, and even military training to help combat the guerilla fighters such as the FARC disidents and EZN as well as to eradicate coca farms.

    Perhaps the US threatened to stop the funding if they were to impose reciprocity fees on us.
    Colombia has been down-sizing its military over the last 7-8 years. The government decided that once most of the country was pacified, the FARC-the issue would become more of a law enforcement problem, and less of a military problem. After 2016, most of the Colombian military officers I spoke to were worried about being prematurely retired, as the government was considering cutting about 1/3 of them, mostly from that huge cohort that was commissioned about 20 years ago to implement Plan Colombia.

    The Colombian military responded to the cut-backs by trying to remain relevant by exporting their combat expertise. For example, they trained the Panamanian coast guard-equivalent's Naval Infantry battalion. (Yes, a country without a military has a coast guard with its own "Marine Corps. " Strange, but true.).

  2. #66129
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    So La Isla is more expensive than Loutron at $400 K and probably a lot noisier too given the strip club environment. Wonder how the rates at Fase Dos compare?
    Loutron used to be about the same price as La Isla, maybe a little more. Both were under 300 K FaseII was about half of that. The price changed because they now attract different customers.

  3. #66128
    Quote Originally Posted by Stl24  [View Original Post]
    Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.
    As far as the regular casa's the standard going is rate is 50 k. Of course you don't out right give them that you ask for sin condom and maybe you can get it gratis as part as the initial fee or a lot less than 50 k. With my experience you don't go above the standard price because usually, if not always, its a shitty BBBJ most likely because they don't like doing it or they have a problem with they do it only for a minute or whatever. But as far as the standard for SW's (el Centro) maybe someone else can comment on that but it's probably around the same price. Higher end casa's like energy I been quoted 150 k or 200 k and of course I opt out. Not taking that risk, especially when its more than the actual service. The best BBBJ I received at these places was either part of the service or I got for practically nothing, so its true the best things in life are free at least in this case.

  4. #66127
    Quote Originally Posted by Stl24  [View Original Post]
    Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.
    There are no "places" and no standard cost. Its something you will have to negotiate or find out with each chica.

  5. #66126

    Negotiating in the casas

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueChange  [View Original Post]
    It's luck of the draw in a casa you are better off with an independant from photoprepago or milerotics. However if you go to Energy for instance you will see prices between 50 K-100 K (more girls charrging 100 K now which I think is too much) BUT with casa you can't negotitate until you are in the room with them.
    Better off looking for oral naturale on the sites with with indepdnats.
    Not true. As I've mentioned on this thread several times, in the casas I always ask the mamasan in charge if I can talk to the chica of my choice in private before committing and going to the room--and have never been turned down. Usually find a quite spot in the waiting room and negotiate extras like mamada natural (BBBJ) and besos con la lengua (DFK) in advance.

    Also, since I usually am only visiting casas in search of a "hidden gem" to audition for a longer term relationship, before going to the room I'll often confirm that, if we have good chemistry in the sack, they will share their WHATSAPP contact and be available to visit me in my apartment--and have an ID that meets my building's strict requirements.

    If, after this interview, we don't agree--or I don't get a good vibe (sense of her personality), I say thanks, pay the viewing fee, and move on.

  6. #66125
    Quote Originally Posted by Stl24  [View Original Post]
    Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.
    It's luck of the draw in a casa you are better off with an independant from photoprepago or milerotics. However if you go to Energy for instance you will see prices between 50 K-100 K (more girls charrging 100 K now which I think is too much) BUT with casa you can't negotitate until you are in the room with them.

    Better off looking for oral naturale on the sites with with indepdnats.

  7. #66124
    Quote Originally Posted by Medclubber  [View Original Post]
    Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.
    Damn. What happened to the mongers whose time is worth more than the 600 K? Maybe their time was only worth the 400 K that it was before. Cheap Charlies.

  8. #66123

    More Expensive Than Loutron

    Quote Originally Posted by Medclubber  [View Original Post]
    Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.
    So La Isla is more expensive than Loutron at $400 K and probably a lot noisier too given the strip club environment. Wonder how the rates at Fase Dos compare?

  9. #66122

    Uncovered BJ

    Where are the best places to get uncovered BJ's and what's the cost? Looking for as many places as you can think of.

  10. #66121
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    All I am saying is that the country Colombia does not charge Americans a reciprocity fee on entry even though the process a Colombian needs to use to get a US visitor visa is no easier or cheaper than that for entering Canada. So they have chosen to not treat Americans in the same way. I only speculate on why. And perhaps it is because the cost to their economy or to their tourism industry might be too high if they did. So that is all I am saying. I don't have any inside information on it. Just an opinion or a guess on that part.
    https://unidad-administrativa-especi...76-de-2023.pdf

    BTW there is evidence that Colombian Immigration has certain autonomy in its decisions from the government.

    https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/...isitors-again/#google_vignette.

  11. #66120
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your feedback on La Isla. Just to confirm, was the $600 K just for the room or was this inclusive with the girl? If not, how much was the girl?
    Room + girl. Then add drinks + tipping of the girl and yeah, it's become expensive for sure. I actually talked about this with the girl I was yesterday, she said the same thing, that the move to 600 k hasn't been a good decision. Less visitors since and even less sex so less income for the club and the girls.

  12. #66119

    Room Charge Plus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medclubber  [View Original Post]
    Went last Saturday night, it was pretty much the same thing. Also I was a bit disappointed by the amount of ladies working on Saturday night, the club was not even half full. Also there were not that many visitors, I do think that the room charge to 600 k has not been a smart move, the place seems more quite ever since. Then again, I also went yesterday (Monday) and I actually felt there were a few more hotties. Went with a girl I had went with a few times, she's one of the older ones I guess, I'd say about 40, her ass is a bit saggy but she has very horny eyes, strokes my cock inside the club, so she's hard to resist in combination with those horny eyes LOL. Sex was quite good, but when I came, she also pretended to come, at least so I thought, she really overdid it in my experience which I felt is a turnoff, nobody screams that hard and intense when they come so it felt like she was really overdoing it, trying to fake an orgasm. However then I saw that she actually had squirted all over me, she looked at me all embarassed and apologized, haha, so that was fun. So, still a great night but yeah I do feel La Isla used to be better.
    Thanks for your feedback on La Isla. Just to confirm, was the $600 K just for the room or was this inclusive with the girl? If not, how much was the girl?

  13. #66118
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJones22  [View Original Post]
    Went to la isla last night. Stuck around for 2 hours looking for my 10 but couldn't find anything. Not even a 9. There were a few 8's but none of them tickled my fancy. I know I know, beauty is subjective. Just unimpressed overall is the point I want to make. Now that the clubs in cartagena closed down, where are all the 9's and 10's going? They are not in la isla. They can't ALL have gone abroad. Did they go to Bogota? Someone lead me on the path to 10's please, money is not an issue.
    Went last Saturday night, it was pretty much the same thing. Also I was a bit disappointed by the amount of ladies working on Saturday night, the club was not even half full. Also there were not that many visitors, I do think that the room charge to 600 k has not been a smart move, the place seems more quite ever since. Then again, I also went yesterday (Monday) and I actually felt there were a few more hotties. Went with a girl I had went with a few times, she's one of the older ones I guess, I'd say about 40, her ass is a bit saggy but she has very horny eyes, strokes my cock inside the club, so she's hard to resist in combination with those horny eyes LOL. Sex was quite good, but when I came, she also pretended to come, at least so I thought, she really overdid it in my experience which I felt is a turnoff, nobody screams that hard and intense when they come so it felt like she was really overdoing it, trying to fake an orgasm. However then I saw that she actually had squirted all over me, she looked at me all embarassed and apologized, haha, so that was fun. So, still a great night but yeah I do feel La Isla used to be better.

  14. #66117
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDerilious  [View Original Post]
    Foreign aid is a drop in the bucket of the federal budget and arguably provides the best bang for the buck. Aid does many things; Direct projection of power and influence, improves national security, fosters diplomatic relationships, promotes economic interest (e. G. Money comes back to us in trade deals), and other things. America's global hegemony is bolstered and secured by minuscule (to the American budget) investments in other countries that reaps benefits in terms of trade deals and influence.

    For more information, see China's Belt and Road initiative for a much more explicit example of how foreign investment is used to prop up one's own interests. Also, see China's foreign investment to understand why America's aid in integral to ensuring America's hegemony and status as global leader and why America would choose to do it. But, I guess some would debate would why America should be the global hegemon as opposed to regimes in China or Russia.
    The US gets back ten fold the money it gives in 'aid' mostly in trade deals and access to resources.

  15. #66116
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    An unrelated question in all of this would be why is the US sending all this money to foreign governments while at the same time running a $34 trillion USD national debt that keeps growing each year?
    Foreign aid is a drop in the bucket of the federal budget and arguably provides the best bang for the buck. Aid does many things; Direct projection of power and influence, improves national security, fosters diplomatic relationships, promotes economic interest (e. G. Money comes back to us in trade deals), and other things. America's global hegemony is bolstered and secured by minuscule (to the American budget) investments in other countries that reaps benefits in terms of trade deals and influence.

    For more information, see China's Belt and Road initiative for a much more explicit example of how foreign investment is used to prop up one's own interests. Also, see China's foreign investment to understand why America's aid in integral to ensuring America's hegemony and status as global leader and why America would choose to do it. But, I guess some would debate would why America should be the global hegemon as opposed to regimes in China or Russia.

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