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  1. #57961
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    How can we get a non-pro overseas half our ages to fall in love with us, or like us enough to allow bareback sex?
    Can you write a book about it? Because I sure can't. I just be myself. Some chicks will dig me, and some won't. I don't have any of that science and testing shit behind it.

    Started talking to a chick online 2 days ago. I told her I am tired of chicks begging for money. She said some people are uneducated like that. We talked about going out then I said why don't you cook for me instead. She said she did not have a problem with that.

    Yesterday I arrived in her country and she told me to pick her up from work at 4 pm. I arrived at 5:30 pm. We went straight to my Airbnb and started fucking BB. Then she said she has 10 days of vacation that she will take to be with me. I said I am not going to be here that long. (And I was thinking I have other chicks to get to. This is exactly why I don't tell chicks when I am arriving or departing. I don't want them being able to plan taking up my time.) After that we went out to eat then went to have a drink. We came back and fucked some more and went to sleep.

    Now it is 11:13 am and we are out eating breakfast. She is waiting on Indriver to come because she has to take her daughter to the doctor. I did not plan this and I did not use any methods and I did not say let's go take some tests. It just happened. I swear that I don't even know this chick's name. And she looks like Cardi B.

  2. #57960

    That's Funny But I Don't Think A Good Route

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    These answers are all wrong.

    Forever 18 here is what you do bro.

    You find a 30 k centro girl.

    After in the room:

    1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).

    2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.

    3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?.
    A couple of comments about this as someone might think your serious. LOL.

    Your fluent in Spanish and a lot of guys won't be able to talk there way thru all your steps which you can do blindfolded. If this service is negotiated after your in the room naked it's probably going to cost more versus if negotiated before entering the room.

    And as far as going down on Centro SW's, at least ones you've never been with before, I don't know about that.

    Let's say you enter the room, the girl gets naked, and removes a wad of toilet paper from her pussy. I know your not going to munching on that pussy, and probably not even if she takes a shower beforehand.

    Typically what guys do in Centro, is they negotiate the "deal" beforehand, before going upstairs versus in the room.

    Bringing it up in the room could be very problematic, especially for those with no Spanish speaking skills, and if somebody say's they will use a translator to muddle thru it, well good luck.

    For guy's contemplating a bare-back session with a Centro SW, the better route for most guys would be to negotiate it up front.

    And I know you know that.

  3. #57959
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back.
    Or better yet, stop drinking. One thing all these cases have is common is the person was drinking. Has anybody that does not drink or was not drinking at the time they were with chicks ever been drugged?

  4. #57958
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor  [View Original Post]
    Find one who likes you and wants to have sex with you. Spend a long time with her, I usually find one to spend a few days with, then lose your hard on when she puts the condom on (like when you are out of leche) and tell her you don't like condoms. Works well for me.
    These answers are all wrong.

    Forever 18 here is what you do bro.

    You find a 30 k centro girl.

    After in the room:

    1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).

    2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.

    3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?

    4.) the answer you are looking for is "cuanto" to which you should reply with a number 50 k higher than the original agreed upon amount (80 k for a 30 k girl, etc.).

    5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.

    6.) you now have permission to go raw.

    Hope this helps.

    Gabacho Out.

  5. #57957
    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?
    Offer her an extra 50 k.

  6. #57956
    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    I tell chicas I want them tested and offer to pay for their test. They have to send me photos / video with me when they are at the clinic, then bring the receipt with them to our next or first meeting. And I pay them for the. Test--I also get tested and since I already had a vasectomy (best decision ever). Then we are all comfortable and good to go.

    I have been bareback with 5 different seeking chicks and a couple from facebook along with some others I networked over time. I only meet with chicks I can comfortably and safely go bareback with.

    I pay for it. I make it happen. And it works for me.

    I decided I don't like condoms. If a chick can't get us al lset to be bareback without worries: meaning she won't get tested--then, I don't want her. Plenty of fish in these seas who can prove they have no stds.
    No centro girl ig going to do all that.

  7. #57955

    Love making vs Sex!

    Obvious huge difference between the two, sport fucking vs making love to a woman!

    These girls fuck for money, with no emotions at first, no love for you. And we know women can easily do that with a smile because it's in their nature.

    How do us men turn that around in this hobby from having quick mechanical sex to more GFE type stuff?

    How can we get a non-pro overseas half our ages to fall in love with us, or like us enough to allow bareback sex?

    The answer is even trained pros can provide GFE, because it can also be an act. Also many doesn't care for those or care for "emotional connections".

    But real GFE obviously will be from a non pro or less experienced girl who genuinely likes you.

    Some men and women sadly write books and blogs / vlogs on this, how to pick up women blah blah. And sadly many men thinks and believes by reading a guide it will help them on their game.

    The answer No it won't. Stop it. No one can guide you to find love. Because that's what true GFE is, a level or step in that area. There are zero real recipes for it, no rules, no one-size fits all, no tricks, no pick up lines.

    Anything of sorts you read is BS.

    Not BS in the sense the author lied, it's BS in the sense that there are no TWO individuals alike on this planet. Meaning what worked for John Doe 1, will not work for John Doe 2.

    Just cause I used a pick up line on a girl and it worked, it doesn't mean you can use the same line to make her laugh or pick her up in the same manner. Also us fools many thinks it's the line the girls fall for.

    When really she just likes your cheesy ass.

    Also We don't have the same look, status, charisma, same facial expression, body language, chemistry, connections, style, heights, hygiene, etc.

    Girls fall for the most random things. The best advice is always be yourself, unless you yourself is an ahole then you don't want to be that. . ok Kidding!

    Clearly we can all improve, but such improvement isn't to attain others otherwise it's fake. We have to work on ourselves first truly whether it's personality, confidence building, wealth, lifestyle (ie weight, look).

    We improve and manage whatever is manageable as many things are out of our control, and not focus on what we cannot.

    With my non pros I use a little romance here and there, have actual conversations that's not related to sex, jack off first if you have to before your date (old trick).

    Genuinely wine and dine them, build actual friendships, and oh yeah I tutor some of them and teach / guide them on businesses, how to trade, set up webcams, LOL.

    Treat them like a human being and BAAMMMMM. Oh shit they no longer see me as an ATM machine and sincerely.

    Wants to fuck me and have my baby or baby twins / triplets when I nut twice or three times in them during the nights.

    As always let's continue this Fuckery in this motherfucker.

  8. #57954
    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?
    Find one who likes you and wants to have sex with you. Spend a long time with her, I usually find one to spend a few days with, then lose your hard on when she puts the condom on (like when you are out of leche) and tell her you don't like condoms. Works well for me.

  9. #57953

    Bareback Quandary

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.
    And then you waive 50,000 and 100,000 COP bills in their faces and Walla you will be penetrating them deep and raw. LOL.

    Then the question my arise as to where the leche is going to be deposited, and perhaps things are getting a little more complicated, but not much! LOL.

    It's not Hocus-Pocos, or Rocket Science for sure if that's what your looking for.

  10. #57952

    Fair Market Value

    So I went to Centro today with exactly 40 k COP and enough on my seeívica card to get home. I started my search at the veracruz church area. First girl I approached was a vennie standing in front of botero real. She said she wanted 40 k to which I replied "tengo exactamente 40 mil, entonces pago la pieza why lo que sobra es para ti" but she declined my offer and said she wanted 40 k and I pay the room aparte, ok gracias pero no gracias bitxh and onto the next chica.

    I then found a real small petite paisa who was standing on the opposite side of the pedestrian walkway leaning up against the wall of the church. She quoted me 30 k plus the pieza! Score and I even saved 2 k COP! We went to Botero Real walking right past the first stuck up bitxh LOL her loss right?

    Turned out to be a 23 year old paisa with dyed red hair real small like 90 lbs. If that. Absolutely great service, DATY, CBJ, and CFS till I popped. Multiple positions, finished in the "acostada bocabajo" position tapping her ass as hard as I could until I finally reached the goal.

    Best part only 30 k COP and 8 k COP for the room with 2 k left over for a limonada in parque berrio afterwards.

    And the stuck up vennie was still outside standing in front of the hotel like a dumbass when the paisa and I came out LOL.

  11. #57951

    I'm an Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    People post things like this all the time here on the forum. They support their theory by posting a link to an article or a video. But let's apply just a tiny bit of logic and critical thinking.

    Let's suppose (since no one knows the exact numbers) that 1,000 times a day someone visiting Medellin or an ex-pat sees some lady for some pleasurable company. Out of those 1,000 encounters, one guy who was a little careless got drugged and robbed. Did the local papers report that there were 999 foreigners getting laid without incident? Of course not, the one incident that makes the papers is the guy who got drugged or assaulted etc.

    Should you be paranoid that every girl you meet is out to scope (short for scopolamine) you and rob you? Again let's give it a little bit of critical thinking. In the casas? I bet you the answer would be 0 percent. The owners wouldn't tolerate it and they know who the girl is, since she works there they have her cedula and other information.

    What about FB girls (or other girls that use an online presence) Possible but not very likely. Girls on FB that are looking for business don't want to be creating a new page after 1 incident. They prefer building a book of clientele that are regulars and you don't do that by drugging or robbing someone and having the word get out. Let's not kid ourselves, take normal precautions. Put any valuables away or in a safe or however you want to do it before you have a girl over to your place. Stay at a place that checks IDs. That leaves a record and also protects you from a later claim that the girl was not of age. Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back. Don't wear bling. If you really are insecure and need people to know how important / rich / successful you are. Call your mama and tell her.

    Street girls? I don't really participate in that scene but my guess based on what I hear from others is that there isn't a large danger there but it is a greater risk that visiting a casa or booking a date with a FB (or other social media) girl.

    The vast majority of Colombians are warm, friendly, welcoming people. But you do have to recognize that there is a sizeable portion of the population that are struggling. It you put temptation in their face they are likely to act on it. But if you come here to enjoy yourself and take normal common sense precautions you are highly unlikely to have any problems what so ever.

    I say that as I am about to complete my third year living in Medellin as an ex-pat and a friend that I breakfast with regularly, has been here almost the identical amount of time and neither of us have had any incident at all. To counter balance a few of the reported incidents above that is almost 2,000 days of living incident free in Medellin.
    OK, I just had two friends, (one lives here and the other has visited several times) message me and tell me that they have been robbed. These two friends aren't careless or show-offs or anything of the like. So, I'll back-pedal what I said. Medellin can be a little more dangerous than I let on. I guess places like Phillipines or Thailand are safer.

  12. #57950

    Bareback

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.
    I tell chicas I want them tested and offer to pay for their test. They have to send me photos / video with me when they are at the clinic, then bring the receipt with them to our next or first meeting. And I pay them for the. Test--I also get tested and since I already had a vasectomy (best decision ever). Then we are all comfortable and good to go.

    I have been bareback with 5 different seeking chicks and a couple from facebook along with some others I networked over time. I only meet with chicks I can comfortably and safely go bareback with.

    I pay for it. I make it happen. And it works for me.

    I decided I don't like condoms. If a chick can't get us al lset to be bareback without worries: meaning she won't get tested--then, I don't want her. Plenty of fish in these seas who can prove they have no stds.

  13. #57949

    Bareback

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?
    I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.

  14. #57948

    1,000 Days In Paradise

    Quote Originally Posted by PepolesBuddy  [View Original Post]
    Crime here is like farting and is extremely common. Look at mr woodmans post about a drugging attempt.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...9&d=1663889275

    I myself had my phone pick pocketed once. I've been back-and-forth since 2017. Is the risk worth the reward it depends🤷127995;8205;9794;65039;.

    Here's another reference about extortion that happened.

    https://youtu.be/Byf3QGlNLyc

    I don't care what anyone says mde is not a safe city. You always have to be on guard and 80% of locals are out to swindle you. From restaurants / businesses overcharging their prices to gringos. To in good cases you just get your phone / wallet stolen to horrible cases you getting drugged and possibly losing a kidney.
    People post things like this all the time here on the forum. They support their theory by posting a link to an article or a video. But let's apply just a tiny bit of logic and critical thinking.

    Let's suppose (since no one knows the exact numbers) that 1,000 times a day someone visiting Medellin or an ex-pat sees some lady for some pleasurable company. Out of those 1,000 encounters, one guy who was a little careless got drugged and robbed. Did the local papers report that there were 999 foreigners getting laid without incident? Of course not, the one incident that makes the papers is the guy who got drugged or assaulted etc.

    Should you be paranoid that every girl you meet is out to scope (short for scopolamine) you and rob you? Again let's give it a little bit of critical thinking. In the casas? I bet you the answer would be 0 percent. The owners wouldn't tolerate it and they know who the girl is, since she works there they have her cedula and other information.

    What about FB girls (or other girls that use an online presence) Possible but not very likely. Girls on FB that are looking for business don't want to be creating a new page after 1 incident. They prefer building a book of clientele that are regulars and you don't do that by drugging or robbing someone and having the word get out. Let's not kid ourselves, take normal precautions. Put any valuables away or in a safe or however you want to do it before you have a girl over to your place. Stay at a place that checks IDs. That leaves a record and also protects you from a later claim that the girl was not of age. Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back. Don't wear bling. If you really are insecure and need people to know how important / rich / successful you are. Call your mama and tell her.

    Street girls? I don't really participate in that scene but my guess based on what I hear from others is that there isn't a large danger there but it is a greater risk that visiting a casa or booking a date with a FB (or other social media) girl.

    [Deleted by Admin] The vast majority of Colombians are warm, friendly, welcoming people. But you do have to recognize that there is a sizeable portion of the population that are struggling. It you put temptation in their face they are likely to act on it. But if you come here to enjoy yourself and take normal common sense precautions you are highly unlikely to have any problems what so ever.

    I say that as I am about to complete my third year living in Medellin as an ex-pat and a friend that I breakfast with regularly, has been here almost the identical amount of time and neither of us have had any incident at all. To counter balance a few of the reported incidents above that is almost 2,000 days of living incident free in Medellin.

  15. #57947
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    What is your definition of quality? Unfortunately, Medellin does not work that way. Higher price does not mean better service.
    Mostly look I guess. If you know any agency (or a fixer) that also vouch for good service let me know please.

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