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  1. #47023

    Colombia or DR? Newbie to international Mongering

    I monger in NYC and have been for a couple of years now. Sorry for my lack of respect points on this website but tbh this isn't my forte'.

    Anyways, end of August I plan to travel to Colombia or DR strictly for mongering. I am a young guy, traveling solo most likely, speak Spanish, am Peruvian (so I blend in pretty well at least in Colombia), and going to carry $3000 total.

    I am leaning towards Colombia because I prefer skinny women but a (expert) monger friend of mine says to try DR because its cheaper and things are closer together.

    Taking covid restrictions into consideration, which country do you recommend with my ideals and budget?

    I'm a little leas versed with Colombia. I don't know the chica prices. Is it expensive? Where should I land if I want to go to the beach as well? Are the beach and chicas mutually exclusive? I know in DR they come hand in hand. Hotel? Food? What are the prices for those in Colombia. I can defend myself so I don't worry too much about dangers of Colombia.

    Anyways, thank you for your help!

    As a trade, I can offer monger info on Peru, Lima.

  2. #47022

    Advisory

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I am not closed minded about it. I try to keep an open mind about things and follow the evidence. "Good advice" should follow the evidence too. I have been here 4 years without ever having a problem in the street, but I would be willing to change my opinion if anyone can show me evidence that foreigners are subject to more street crime than locals. I hear this a lot on social platforms but no one has ever demonstrated it. In fact, the available crime stats show that criminals target Centro and nearby areas, and not Poblado, where rich people and foreigners mostly stay. The opposite of what you allude to. So I just put it down to personal perception of risk until someone can show me otherwise.
    Actually you have a better chance of getting robbed in Poblado versus El Centro and Paulie enumerated some of the reasons why foreigners are better targets than locals.

    The reality of all of this is, and with you having four years of no incidents, is that you may become complacent, and when you least expect it, boom you get jacked up.

    If anything I have learn't about Medellin in particular is, that you can never "let your guard down", as typically you will get jacked up when you least expect it as I'm mentioning again.

    There have been countless reports of guys getting jacked on the Medellin thread over the years, myself included.

    So my advice to everyone is again.

    'Never let your guard down'.

    And I'm not just talking about the street, but with the Chicas as well, and that's a whole other topic of it's own.

  3. #47021
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    I'll be back during the flower festival, does anyone have any recommendations on things to do during.
    The antique car parade is pretty cool. Also a trip to Parque del Norte during the flower festival is interesting.

  4. #47020
    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    Seor Enternational,

    Much truth in what you say, and an entertaining illustration of your point. That said, as a short guy and a gringo, with an anywhere from the Mediterranean type face, when in Medellin every couple of weeks or so I get stopped in the street by a native Paisa who asks me for directions--and then does a double-take when they hear my accent.
    Contrary to what many believe, lots of gringos can pass as Colombians when their mouths are shut. Not being tall, looking somewhat Mediterranean, no blond hair / blue eyes, and yes, some can blend in as long as they dress accordingly.

  5. #47019

    Flower Festival

    I'll be back during the flower festival, does anyone have any recommendations on things to do during.

  6. #47018
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    BTW there's middle grounds between fully blending in, which is near impossible for some, and loudly advertising what you are and where you're from. That's where you find common sense and good advice.
    I am not closed minded about it. I try to keep an open mind about things and follow the evidence. "Good advice" should follow the evidence too. I have been here 4 years without ever having a problem in the street, but I would be willing to change my opinion if anyone can show me evidence that foreigners are subject to more street crime than locals. I hear this a lot on social platforms but no one has ever demonstrated it. In fact, the available crime stats show that criminals target Centro and nearby areas, and not Poblado, where rich people and foreigners mostly stay. The opposite of what you allude to. So I just put it down to personal perception of risk until someone can show me otherwise.

  7. #47017
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Don't matter what you do, you are going to stick out and people will know you are not from there. Wear what you are comfortable in. I am a normal Black guy. Yesterday I was at the beach in Santa Marta. My entire body except for my head and neck was under the water. A 14 year old girl swam up to me and said, "What's up man? What's up bro?" Inside I was dying laughing but I said "Como?" Then she swam off like she was embarrassed.
    On the topic of beaches, any recommendations. I might hop to a coastal city since I'm itching for a beach view but none to be had here in Medellin. Is Santa Marta good? I heard Tayrona is where the nice beaches are at so maybe make a few day trips out of that?

  8. #47016
    Rode my bike through Botero yesterday because it was actually a sunny day and I wanted to ride around town. It has been raining damn near everyday so it was good to get out. Talent was soso. Probably because it was Sunday and early afternoon.

  9. #47015
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddock1  [View Original Post]
    Am I going to need a copy of my passport to check into the ST motels in Centro? I normally don't bring my passport out of the safe with me from Poblado. Any tips on picking up girls in Centro? As a 6'3 white guy with blonde hair is there any hiding the fact that I'm a Gringo,. Thus if I show up in my shorts and t shirt will I be causing myself any undue trouble?
    Some of the ST hotels in El Centro, like the Premium Plaza or Calle Real will not allow you in unless you have an ID and your Chica does which they record in a log. Get a couple of color copies of your Passport and have them laminated to carry with you.

    Unfortunately your going to stick out like a sore thumb in El Centro, so it really doesn't matter what you wear there. Just don't carry anything that your not willing to lose such as a USA smart phone, credit cards, or lots of cash. You won't need much money there anyways.

    Your going to get a lot of attention in El Centro with the blond hair and being so tall, so be prepared for some Chicas, at least the ones that bang foreigners to give you the "eye", and a few may even approach you which is not the "norm" for the locals.

  10. #47014

    Disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I quite like sticking out like a sore thumb. Makes you more approachable. I am not convinced that foreigners are targetted on the street. I think criminals will identify whoever they see as easy victims, doesn't matter where you are from. Vendors though are a different story.
    Foreigners, particularly North Americans and Euros are generally targeted more because they are considered wealthy and more likely to be carrying a good amount of cash and a nice phone. And when a phone and 100 bucks or so is nothing to that foreigner then they are seen as less likely to put up a fight over it. Go ahead and "stick out like a sore thumb" though. Do it your way as everyone ultimately makes their own decisions, while the more vocal posters have usually already made up their minds.

    BTW there's middle grounds between fully blending in, which is near impossible for some, and loudly advertising what you are and where you're from. That's where you find common sense and good advice.

  11. #47013

    Gringo as Sore Thumb: True enough but.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I keep trying to put this blend in myth to bed. Now if a Black dude on the coast where all the Black Colombians are sticks out like a sore thumb with only his head sticking out of the water, really what chance is there for any foreigner walking the street to blend in?
    Seņor Enternational,

    Much truth in what you say, and an entertaining illustration of your point. That said, as a short guy and a gringo, with an anywhere from the Mediterranean type face, when in Medellin every couple of weeks or so I get stopped in the street by a native Paisa who asks me for directions--and then does a double-take when they hear my accent.

  12. #47012
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Don't matter what you do, you are going to stick out and people will know you are not from there.
    I quite like sticking out like a sore thumb. Makes you more approachable. I am not convinced that foreigners are targetted on the street. I think criminals will identify whoever they see as easy victims, doesn't matter where you are from. Vendors though are a different story.

  13. #47011
    Think I might join you. I haven't done much trawling in MDE for a coupla years and am keen to explore some street life in Centro. 3 nights sounds like a plan. I have another friend here. Will ask him if he wants to join.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I just bought my ticket from Pereira to Medellin a minute ago. I will be there from Friday until Monday. Almost booked a King Room at the Nutibara for $112 for those 3 days. If anybody needs help braving downtown during that time then hit me up.

  14. #47010
    I just bought my ticket from Pereira to Medellin a minute ago. I will be there from Friday until Monday. Almost booked a King Room at the Nutibara for $112 for those 3 days. Came back on here to do some more research though. I am used to only paying 35 K per day at a place I stay in right down the street. If anybody needs help braving downtown during that time then hit me up.

  15. #47009
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddock1  [View Original Post]
    As a 6'3 white guy with blonde hair is there any hiding the fact that I'm a Gringo,. Thus if I show up in my shorts and t shirt will I be causing myself any undue trouble?
    Don't matter what you do, you are going to stick out and people will know you are not from there. Wear what you are comfortable in. I am a normal Black guy. Yesterday I was at the beach in Santa Marta. My entire body except for my head and neck was under the water. A 14 year old girl swam up to me and said, "What's up man? What's up bro?" Inside I was dying laughing but I said "Como?" Then she swam off like she was embarrassed.

    A couple of minutes later she swam back over and I talked to her. I told her that I was in fact from the States. She seemed really smart and had her 5 year old brother along who could swim like a fish. My girl also had a conversation with her and found out they are really poor and do not even have electricity in their house.

    I keep trying to put this blend in myth to bed. Now if a Black dude on the coast where all the Black Colombians are sticks out like a sore thumb with only his head sticking out of the water, really what chance is there for any foreigner walking the street to blend in?

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