Medellin Reports

[SavePros321]

Hello gentleman,

I posted once a few days ago, but I think it got lost in the shuffle of the debate on another topic. Or perhaps it's because I did not formally introduce myself.

Realistically it was probably because you asked about T-Shots in Medellin and no one responded; most likely because none of us have had any experience with them or with buying them in Medellin.

Probably would be a better idea if you got them in your home country and brought it with you on your trip.

[ColombiaLover]

Hello gentleman,

I posted once a few days ago, but I think it got lost in the shuffle of the debate on another topic. Or perhaps it's because I did not formally introduce myself. I guess it's because I feel like I've been around for a while. I've been lurking. I finally decided to join because this Board has much more active information and discussion about Medellin than MN and CRT.

A little about me. Been to Medellin several times. Was there quite frequently between 5 and 9 years ago, then stopped going. In more recent years I spent more time in SJO (Costa Rica). Frankly, it was easier to get to from where I live and also fairly cheap. Because I was only going for 4-5 days at a time, it made sense. As opposed to taking most of the day to get to Medellin. The direct Jet Blue flight out of FLL really helps, even though I still have a decent drive to get there.

Returned to Medellin last summer with some family and caught the bug. So went back this year solo in March and had a great stay at the Mansion. I made some nice contacts. I will be headed back to Medellin in less than two weeks. Mansion was pretty booked for memorial day. I managed to score the last room in M2 for most of the trip, but will be in an apartment the first three nights.

As I said, I made some nice contacts while at the Mansion and I still keep in touch with them. I made a few more contacts via Facebook since, some from a guy I met at the Mansion. I'm pretty pleased with the 8 or 9 girls I've been communicating with and hope to see most of them. Trying to put together the pecking order as we speak.

Without making this post too long winded, I have really gotten some positive responses from these girls. Obviously they are looking to earn some money and have some fun. But these girls seem to really gravitate toward a guy who also takes the time to keep in contact with them and treat them nicely. We'll see how that translates into the cama when I'm there, but I'm optimistic. Because this is much different than what I experience in SJO.

So I'll stop there. More later and more when I'm on my trip.

CL

[The Tall Man]

Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.

Nice report on your quick trip to MDE and your experiences with MP casas along the way.

The Tall Man.

[DrWasabee]

Baller on a budget! I'm going to check Occidental Grill this time around. Thanks for the post..

Not really on a budget I'm just a cheap fuck. That was my first time at the Occidental there were about 3-4 girls none actually dancing but it was kind of early on a Sunday night.

[GrownMan1]

Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.

Thank I good weekend get away price.

[Dcfan77]

Baller on a budget! I'm going to check Occidental Grill this time around. Thanks for the post.

Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.

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[DrWasabee]

Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.

[Onibmab]

I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass

Yes, I agree with this. I don't like to make assumptions that people are hookers off the bat.

Some it is very easy to tell. Others it is more ambiguous.

So it is a matter of learning and hearing about the culture of Colombia.

If someone asked me about a chick in the US who had a boob job. I'd say that it is definitely a statement about her personality or character but it doesn't mean she is a hooker. Would I assume a chick I met in NY was a hooker because she has fake boobs? A chica in Poblado might not be different. Therefore it is useful to get the opinion of members on the board so that I get some perspective from other people before I show up in the country. Like the Guardian news article I linked here.

[Onibmab]

Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".

Well, it is more about not wanting to jump to conclusions. Not every female in the entire country is poor. Maybe she lives with her family in a middle class area.

For example: is every chica who has a Samsung Galaxy S4 or an iPhone in Medellin automatically a hooker? LOL, I think it raises the probability, yes. But it is also possible that she is a middle class girl and therefore she owns some worldly possessions.

So it is akin to me asking: how common is it for middle class chicas to buy iPhones?

So if it is true that middle class chicas in Medellin get boob jobs without being putas, then it is quite possible, if she is from the "middle class", that she never was a puta.

[Phunluv]

Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".

Actually, agree with everything you say, just want to clarify, by guy friends, I meant men she may have dated / slept with in the past or current friends with benefits. I suppose that's a kind of prepaga so I guess yeah I've undermined my point, LOL.

I still don't think the millions of Colombians in the country with boob jobs have all put out for money, or will in the near future. Maybe just 99%, LOL. I suspect many do it to attract a better quality (richer) boyfriend which is classic Colombian logic! Also, the women are naturally very competitive with each other when it comes to looks and fashion.

I guess if the OP sends her money, he is going to go crazy over this and end up feeling burned; I personally don't worry about those kinds of things any more. We play the girls. They play us in turn. Everyone has their secrets. I recently discovered 45-year-old documents about a family member that surprised me.

My advice to the OP would be don't give more than what is disposable money to you.

[Surfer500]

I know what you mean - I can pass for Cuban when I was in Cuba. But I was immediately identified by my Nike and polo outfits. Even the guys who walked with me- someone assumed they were American because we were together. They got a kick out of that. Stating yes we are Americans in their best English accent. I think I will dress down in Medina but only during the day. And do my normal at night headed to the club. I just can't t-shirt and jeans. I don't mind standing out a little and representing da dirty dirty south Grownman style. if this is a big mistake Mr G please tell me

Nike / Polo outfits, gold chains, earrings, shorts and sandals. That will get you mugged in El Centro in a heartbeat. I think your going to like the street scene better than the clubs and you need to dress like a local which is T-shirts and jeans. A friend of mine just returned from Medellin last week and told me the going rate for the street girls near and around Avenida De La Grief was approximately $ 8 with a condom. Bareback sessions I was told could be had for only $ 4 more with some of the girls in the streets. I know a lot of members here won't get near the street girls many of whom are druggies but there are some diamonds in the rough to be had there. I met some really nice gems there on my last trip. I personally don't like the clubs, and they aren't really anything like in the DR. Your going to have a great time after you sort things out within a few days and I look forward to seeing your reports. I will be on the ground there starting the 28th and plan to explore some new territory besides the El Centro and Mayorista areas. Also don't rule out some daytime sessions at the casa's.

[SavePros321]

By that logic it doesn't mean that none of us don't turn tricks on the side either. There is no way to prove a negative. But maybe I assume they are not hookers because in the umpteen years that I have known them they have never asked me for anything and I have never given them anything. They are not running around in luxury and sporting the latest gadgets. They live modestly and even below modestly. But hell anything is possible. I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass; especially if I have known that someone for quite a few years.

Well, at least I was referring to semi pros, or "known sluts". Don't even get me started on the quote, unquote "non-pros":

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I Married A $lut That Fucks Like A Prude part II

We've heard the same story repeatedly: the woman who was sexually ferocious in her youth but is extremely conservative in her marriage. The woman who was into gangbangs and orgies in her "experimental" days but now refuses to give her husband a blow job.

/u/Rollo-Tomassi's original post on the subject is the gold standard in terms of analysis:

http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

And yet, however many times you've heard the story, it still bears repeating, because of the millions of husbands who suffer through this situation for their entire married lives.

The latest episode is from the /r/deadbedrooms subreddit titled "Thinking we are done, four weeks to our wedding".

It starts out with a man in a once-every-two-months dead bedroom. One day he goes to an alcohol-fueled industry trade show related to his fiance's work. He wanders off on his own and strikes up a conversation with a random guy:

Anyway, we got onto exes. I admit, I don't have many. Well I have one, but that was a long time ago. So he was doing most of the talking. Alcohol, loose lips, etc. Anyway, my fiance is off in the distance and I was about to mention her. But just then he mentioned her instead even pointing her out sort of slyly.

He said she was one of his exes, but more like a friends with very good benefits. I don't know why, I just decided to let him talk. He referred to her as "the dirtiest woman ever" and how when she first met him, within ten minutes she was leading him around the club they were in trying to find a second guy to have a threesome with. Then another time she had him round for a booty call and she was apparently very into toys. Apparently she had done most of his friends too and they would often talk about her. But he was laughing all the way through this, just sort of guy talk. Not in a mocking way, he was just letting the alcohol run his mouth.

This didn't click with me at all. My fiance? Threesome? Toys? No way. She barely moves during sex and most certainly does not give me blow jobs or even hand jobs nowadays. She told me she finds blow jobs degrading and one time I suggested buying her a sex toy she told me only sad women use those. Who is this guy talking about that can "suck dick like a champ" and all this sort of thing. Yes, I remember the words he used.

How did he know that this guy was telling the truth?

But he said something that made some uncomfortable listening. I just plain didn't believe him. But what he said was that he knew of a specific tattoo that really unless you had seen her naked, you wouldn't know about. I've had a scaffolding pole fall and break my rib once... this conversation hurt more.

Eventually, the trickle-truth comes out, and her response is so typical that it could be computer-generated.

It took a couple of very tense days for her to finally tell me everything and I doubt I heard everything. But she was "wild" in her college days, she was "trying things out, getting to know herself" and that it's past her and she isn't some sort of $lut and it was bad of me to ask about this. My fiance admitted to sleeping with around 20 guys during her "wild" years and let slip one or two things I didn't know about. I never really asked her for her "number" but given what I know, I think 20 may be an under estimate. I think when she admitted to an entirely different foursome with this guy I realized that the threesome I'd heard about wasn't an isolated incident.

The poor guy stays with her to see if things will eventually get kinkier, but they don't:

I even brought up the subject of sexy fantasies once. I tried being low key, saying that I found stockings hot, that I liked her in red lingerie. In truth I have never seen her in stockings or lingerie of any kind. Anything I said just seemed to be met with "I'm not a hoar, stop treating me like one."

If this is a fake story, it is a good fake because it fits the AFBB (Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks) reality so well:

Couple has a dead bedroom and yet the man stays out of obligation / commitment.

Man finds out about her secret wild past.

Woman denies it, then the truth eventually trickles out.

Says she was experimenting when she was young but that is in her past and she's not a $lut now.

Shames the man for shaming her about her past.

Woman still isn't motivated to have sex because you can't negotiate desire.

Edit: a helpful Redditor said that OP posted the following update:

Thank you for all the comments. Just to say, sorry this ended up on the red pill. I never really looked at it until a whole bunch of you messaged me with it but I really do not identify with what is written there. So thank you for pointing me there but I don't need it.

I told her last night about 20 minutes after writing all this that I don't think I can go through with the wedding. We had a big talk and although initially she just resorted to her making me feel guilty for needing to be sexual with her, she told me a lot of things that really made no difference.

I suggested again that maybe she was guilty about her sexual past and if she wanted to reign in the kink then that isn't a problem. But eliminating sex entirely is just a complete deal break and not one I am willing to put up with any longer. She denied this vehemently. Though she got insulting I think it was just her defense mechanism.

We slept on it, I went to my parents. She sent me a mail saying that I can either call off the wedding or come back and we would fuck. I came back after a lot of hesitation. I think I was psyching myself up.

In the end, we ended up just talking again and mutually agreed that we are just not right for each other. She pretty much said that she never wanted me to think of her as a slag which I never have done. She also regretted being so experimental but ultimately she also wants to do more experimenting. Because she got into her head that I am a stable nice guy, she doesn't want to do anything kinky with me because it would make me think less of her. I don't know how she rationalised it, she basically said that because I am keeping the household together and paying the bills, she didn't feel like she was able to get kinky with me. This pretty much made me angry but I didn't let on.

I guess all that's left now is separating. Thank you all for your comments, even the ones who tried to say I was being false. I can assure you I am not being false and this is pretty much uncharted territory for me.

Full: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/c...prude_part_ii/.

SavePros:

Love this quote. This could be applied to those "Unicorn" non-pro girlfriends as well:

1johnnight 1 point 24 days ago

Look, there are some men would be glad to marry a former $lut, who stays a nympho for them. Not gonna judge.

The problem is false advertising. It's a con. You are promised to get one thing, but you pay outrageous money to get a shitty or empty product. There is literally no other commercial good to spend as much money on as a wife. Nothing else.

And men are making the stupidest decisions about the number one cost item. The whole culture is set up to make men make stupid decisions. It's like 'they' know, but they keep up the necessary lies for society to go on (not even function, just go on).

[Mr Enternational]

Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.

By that logic it doesn't mean that none of us don't turn tricks on the side either. There is no way to prove a negative. But maybe I assume they are not hookers because in the umpteen years that I have known them they have never asked me for anything and I have never given them anything. They are not running around in luxury and sporting the latest gadgets. They live modestly and even below modestly. But hell anything is possible. I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass; especially if I have known that someone for quite a few years. And besides, as tight as those monkeys are when I get back to them, if they were selling it to somebody then that somebody definitely had not been hitting hit right.

[SavePros321]

So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.

Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. I gave the example of the MILF hairstylist. She has a "legitimate job" (hell, she is a business owner), but still is available for P4P.

In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.

I've been watching a chica I've blown my load in on multiple occasions parade pics of her new boyfriend across her Facebook timeline over the past few days (no fake tits on this one; natural round melons). I'm sure her new novio thinks he knows first hand that she's never sold ass for cash either.

Oh, and this particular one I speak of happens to be an enfermera.

[Mr Enternational]

Say what you want about C Jack Sparrow, but this guy gets it!

There is a very, very fine chica from Medellin that I wanted to bang on my next trip, but she is currently living in Peru working as a "waitress" (cough), and won't be back until summer.

That could very well be the case if she was in a first world country. In a restaurant in Australia I did meet a girl from Colombia who was a real live waitress and was not there as a hooker as you guys are portraying every Colombiana who travels for work to be. One of my main Colombians is from Medellin and has worked in a factory in Panama for years. My ex girlfriend is Colombian but has lived outside of Colombia for at least the 10 years that I have been knowing her. When we met she was living in the hood in Caracas (I did stay there with them) with her son, who is now an engineering student at a university in Buenos Aires . Then she moved to Curacao. She now lives in Panama. She is a hairstylist. She does have implants that her boyfriend before I met her bought. So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.

The Colombians who I have met in Peru who ARE hookers all have tit and ass implants. Does your girl fit this description? If not, then I am 90% sure that she is not working as a hooker in Peru. I would seriously doubt that she is there as a waitress though. Peru is not a big tipping culture and she would probably make out better as a waitress in Colombia. For the most part, the people that do the waitressing in Peru are teenagers.