Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

In Europe and North America, cars must have side impact panels in the doors to be street legal. There is no such requirement in Colombia. Side impact panels increase the weight and rigidity of car doors. They also of course greatly increase safety. Closing the panel equipped car doors requires more force than closing doors that don't have the panels. This is why locals sometimes don't manage to fully close doors on those few occasions when they find themselves in cars of international specification. That is also why those of us used to vehicles of international specifications use more force than necessary to close the car doors.

That is the factual background. Now for the more meaningful cultural notes. There is very little culture of vehicle maintenance in Colombia of the sort there is in the more developed world. The mentality here is avoiding use equals maintenance. This is why in even the hottest weather Colombian motorists keep their ventilation fans off. It is why during heavy rain, drivers don't turn on their windshield wipers (which are more often than not well past replacement condition) until the road is all but invisible. It challenges logic but the traditional driver wisdom in Colombia is cars will suffer structural damage if the doors are shut too forcefully too many times. In fact, few cars here are on the road long enough for that to occur but this is not a place where long term planning or analysis are very prevalent. It's confusing to the gringo mentality that drivers fret so much about how forcefully a door is closed but drive on dead shocks and worn springs for years, accelerate heavily toward red lights and traffic jams, rarely use neutral to coast or downshift to adjust speed instead of alternating between full acceleration and pumping the brakes over and over again. For the next thread on this subject we can talk about the vehicle horn as emergency equipment vs the way it's used for entertainment and an expression of impatience here.

What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?

[Silvakeviniam]

Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there.

[MoonShot]

To believe that mongers are altruistic guys who want to share information freely to help others without passing judgment on others is naive. The only common link among all of us is that we want to have sex with attractive women and we are willing to pay for it. That by itself is not enough to make us a brotherhood with a lot of common interests. If you read the thread for at least a few pages, you would quickly see that there is a lot of name calling, believe that I'm doing it right and you're doing it wrong, you guys are a bunch of simps because you do certain things, I pay this much and if you pay any more you're an idiot, and other things like that.

It is the way it is because we are all so different and we don't have much in common other than wanting to have sex with attractive women and willingness to pay for it. There is also always this conflict. If we say a lot of positive things about Medellin and make it easier for everyone to come here, there would be a lot more guys coming here. And yet guys here constantly complain that there are too many guys coming here.

In many ways this thread is no different than discussion about politics. People have different opinions on how to do it right in Medellin and they have firm convictions that the way they are doing it is the way it needs to be done and if you're not doing it that way, you're a sucker or a lowlife.

So I do enjoy reading about other people's experiences yet at the same time you might notice that I've almost never asked for assistance on how to do things in Medellin. Instead I just do research on the internet and configure things out myself. I do ask myself this question, do I want to encourage more guys to come to Medellin and if so, why is that a good thing for me?

[Sangnyc21]

Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.

While budgeting accordingly is one thing if your going to dabble over pennies and dimes maybe mongering as a whole is not for you.

Even you plan on going to centro and buying 40 k pussy airbnb costs flight costs food costs. They all add up so with that being said it's a general rule to bring extra.

[Maha Siddha]

I don't understand how anyone can generalize about a mongering venue or the ethnicity of chicas in such a dogmatic manner.

Having spent much of the last five years here, I've found the ladies hanging out around Parque Lleras (as in the casas and strip clubs) to encompass the full spectrum of Chicadom. In terms of looks: The occasional gem, most always several in the quite attractive to doable arrange, and the rest in the you "you couldn't pay me to...... " category. In terms of personality and service: some genuinely engaging and provide great full GFE value for the money; others mechanical clock watchers; the others somewhere in-between. Afro-Colombians, mestizas, blancas (Europeos) in all of the above categories. Over time, one gets pretty good at screening for those that promise to be good company and to provide genuine GFE service.

Some of the El Centro Rats on this thread claim that there's no difference in the quality of chicas to be found loitering about Parque Lleras (or in Gustos for that matter) and those in Plaza Botero and vicinity--and insist that there's, in fact, a large number of chicas working both locations, but charging 4 times the price in Lleras. In their view the only difference between the hotter lookin Llleras chicks and the plainer looking Botero broads is a lot of make-up and pricier / sexier outfits. Although I've never recognized chicas from El Centro in Parque Llleras, I don't doubt that there may well be a fair amount of overlap in the girls working both locations. But (speaking as someone who has spent a fair amount of time in El Centro strip clubs--Barre Ejecutiva, Conejitos, etc. -- and meandering about the Plaza Botero, Calle 53, Avenida de Greiff/Raudall mongering grounds), in my experience, in Parque Llleras one still finds a good number of chicas of a type (quality of looks; education and / or more European ancestry in some cases) that you'd never see in El Centro in your lifetime--except perhaps at midnight mass on Nochebuena (Christmas Eve).

I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS, often start our sessions with a leisurely, pro-quality stripshow/twerk-dance session, and are enjoyable to hang out with. I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's my impression that fairly often in and around Parque Lleras you'll find some better looking (sometimes better educated) chicas who are not working girls (i.e. not regularly doing multiple tricks per day), and who, only when hard up for cash, will go to the Parque to troll for clients, but who would never think of setting foot in El Centro.

How much you paid for this girl "I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS".

[Old Parr]

THANK YOU for this! I guess I'm the OP who asked about the different ways of transit and I appreciate the intel I'm getting here. I believe that this type of forum as well as one I use for my own home territory mongering is a great place to share info and I for one always contribute to the geographical locations I'm experienced with to help others without passing judgement on anyone's personal preferences. So to suggest that I should stay at home just because I would be interested in looking at different cost options of transit and even venues for mongering is just so damn disrespectful. Just because I would rather look at all options available rather than do things only certain ways doesn't mean that I won't enjoy my trip.

Waiting on question #800 from Exoticspirit in a 2 week span! What is it going to be?

[CK465]

Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.

At least I didn't pay 100 mil for 30 minutes cause that would be bad. I know what to expect next time.

[Mr Enternational]

And yes, I am trying to stretch out my travel dollars since Colombia is only one country I'm visiting on this trip. I'm also visiting Peru, Panama and Cayman Islands (where I'm paying $280 US per night for my accommodations) so if I look like a cheap Charlie in Colombia -- too fracking bad! It's my darn trip.

Exactly. I just came back from Seychelles spending $523 on accomodations and $360 on a rental car for a few days. So you will have to excuse me that when I was in Colombia the month before that I only spent $20 per day on airbnb and me and my girl rode the bus 2 hours to Paipa for $8. 70 each each way instead of taking a taxi. A lot of people are spending money on more things than going to Colombia to fuck hookers during their leisure.

[Mr Enternational]

Many general tourists on Tripadvisor have since highly recommended using buses and Metro to get around. One even warned about how a taxi driver went ballistic because the passenger got out on the wrong side of the car so recommended taking other public transportation to avoid such characters.

What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?

[JjBee62]

Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.

New Life and Sexy Amigas were 50 k, 7 years ago. I'm positive they aren't still 50 k.

Mileroticos rates vary from girl to girl. They are not all 50 k, never have been, never will be. If he's happy with what he got for the price he paid, then he's absolutely right.

[DaddyLou37]

Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.

Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.

[Exoticspirit]

As for bus vs taxi, so many pointless comments, bus cost X, taxi Z, the OP can make his own decision, everybody knows taxi is the most convenient, I don't get why some posters feel obliged to chip in with their name calling.

THANK YOU for this! I guess I'm the OP who asked about the different ways of transit and I appreciate the intel I'm getting here. I believe that this type of forum as well as one I use for my own home territory mongering is a great place to share info and I for one always contribute to the geographical locations I'm experienced with to help others without passing judgement on anyone's personal preferences. So to suggest that I should stay at home just because I would be interested in looking at different cost options of transit and even venues for mongering is just so damn disrespectful. Just because I would rather look at all options available rather than do things only certain ways doesn't mean that I won't enjoy my trip.

Many general tourists on Tripadvisor have since highly recommended using buses and Metro to get around. One even warned about how a taxi driver went ballistic because the passenger got out on the wrong side of the car so recommended taking other public transportation to avoid such characters.

And yes, I am trying to stretch out my travel dollars since Colombia is only one country I'm visiting on this trip. I'm also visiting Peru, Panama and Cayman Islands (where I'm paying $280 US per night for my accommodations) so if I look like a cheap Charlie in Colombia -- too fracking bad! It's my darn trip. Guys on my home territory mongering forum did warn my about the existence of some disrespectful individuals on the Colombia forum and they sure were right.

When I finally do my trip, I'll be sure to report what I see, what worked well and what maybe did not to help out others without passing judgement on others.

[JjBee62]

To each their own. But I find it a hassle. After spending the better part of the day getting to Medellin, the last thing on my mind is saving $20 some dollars. You mentioned the bus but didn't mention the cost of the cab after getting dropped off. Why hassle with your luggage. Where else can you get door to door service at $20 or $24 ?

Makes no sense to me. Unless your budget is extremely tight and living on paycheck to paycheck in the states.

It doesn't have to make sense to you.

Some guys are bringing $1000 worth of gifts to give to chicas. Some guys are staying in $12 per night rooms and bargaining for 40 k fucks. Some guys are renting $1000 per night penthouses. Some guys are spending their time partying on coke and tussi, or getting drunk every night.

If you're spending your time trying to make sense of the things people do, you're too busy to be doing anything else.

[JjBee62]

Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.

It's unreal that some mongers believe they are qualified to make decisions for all mongers. And assume everyone's problems are based on other mongers not following their direction.

I've taken a few short trips to Bogota from Medellin, no luggage, just my backpack. In Bogota, I hopped on the bus to Portal Dorado, got on the Transmilenio and rode to within 3 blocks of my hotel. I think it was 1600 pesos at the time and probably saved 45 minutes. When I returned, I got on the bus to San Diego, walked 1 block and hopped on a bus which dropped me right in front of my apartment. 9500 for the airport bus, 1800 for the other and took maybe 10 minutes longer. Bus was more comfortable than any taxi.

At the time exchange rate was about 2500 to 1. Savings were more than $10, but it wasn't about the savings. Midday traffic in both cities can be terrible. Being stuck in traffic in a bus is, to me, slightly better than being stuck in a taxi.

Everyone who visits is going to have different priorities, different interests and different comfort levels. The biggest mistake I've seen people make is to let someone else determine what will be best for them.

Nounce is absolutely right. Put the information out there and allow others to make the decisions which best fit their style.

For the record, I've taken white taxis, yellow taxis, Uber, been picked up by a chica who gave me a hand job all the way to Medellin and who spent 4 hours trying to fuck me senseless, all to get from the airport to Medellin. I've also had friends pick me up and I've rented cars.

[Tempor]

First visit here in Medellin is going real well, especially since I'm in Centro in order to be closer to the action.

I've been hooking up with a lot of Vinnies and they've been super cool and trenquilo with me, even though my Spanish is see+, we use GT to speak when we want to get across a topic. Anyway. I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is around 70 mil for thirty minutes, and somewhere around 100-200 mil for the hour and depending on services if you go to the short stay hotel. None of the SW pros I've seen have tried to play me with the price and even corrected me to the correct lower price. Shit you won't see in the states, brah.

Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.

Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay.

Also, I ordered a Vinnie MILF off of Miltereroticos and she practically stayed the remainder of the night into the morning and only charged 300 mil for over an hour session. She was fun. I really can't be mad with these prices and glad I took the dip to come here. It's a Heaven for Ass and it speaks true. Just can't burn all my money here. Got to return and make money in the states.

Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.