Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Huh? What are you really trying to say?

I didn't want to say anything first. That was totally incoherent. A bunch of jumbled stuff all over the place. Maybe he was just brainstorming.

[BeersTerry]

Huh? What are you really trying to say?

[C Jack Sparrow]

Paisas that are serious move FROM Poblado, since it's so strongly connected to Narcos other types of business that make money out of suspect "legit" business.

Sincere paisas despise many of the "newly rich" in Poblado.

I have enough friends that works public servants on high (est) level in their respective field to say that a factor that, when the next Real Estate crisis come, will hit poblado very hard.

Blonde men having Pocahontas novias. Hmmm. People, both men and women of the whole social spectre, don't mind. I would even say; they love it; they want that their pretty girls are popular among Northern men.

All societies have a natural law about age. But Anglo-Saxon have become paranoid.

Here in SA, except want to-be Big Powers Argentina / Uruguay and lately Chile, don't want to marry "rich" americans or Europeans. With 30% of Western World GNP; ask any "porteo", look at their behavior, their opinions, they still like No. 1 in the world, and their setbacks are due to US / GB conspiration.

Colombians want to export their super beautiful girls, and a girl of 23-32 marrying a man 34-54 are not controversial. He is excepted to take care of her.

Same in the informal prepago sector. Young ladies, from Estrato-13, or 4, are "allowed" to go out and have a dinner in a 4-5 restaurants without anyone bothering them in any way.

Why?

One reason; rich / influent paisa / medellin) men take their "novias" out to the same restaurants as you do.

And it is deep in Colombian culture. You respect the private sphere of other people.

If you gus think Poblado are the highest level, you are 100% wrong.

Quickly made money, maffia etc. Wns a lot of biuldings here. Prostitutes of highest level have their apartment here.

Americans, just counting $$ PAY!. They don't think!

You can have a young stunning girlfriend, if you just bother to do the work.

Latin females wants trust, Anglo-Saxon females have feminism, rights, can dress like a man, look like a non-sexual being; and they don't have to care at all.

The inventor of the female viagra PT-141 concludes that, not less than 1/3 of Western females are sexually disturbed, they show low interest in the other sex, but are instead willing to set them up, go get a good deal, at a divorce, which comes when the next victim are hooked up and prepared to "he lp her out of her miserable situation, that her husband put her in.

NO. Having anxiety over having a good looking girlfriend, novia.

Leave this forum then, it only bring BAD energy!

Look! In many Western countries, and even Argentina; the female are the older one in the couple. Not 2-4 years, but 6-15 years older. Even more.

Since lot of men never get it in their own country, they feel ashamed when offered what they really want!

Get a good-looking novia and prepagos and learn to love your right to feel good!

This was how Jackson and the other veterans started out!

[Member #4393]

This is another one of these threads that has many different faces. My life, my choice. I do not intentionally choose to snub Colombian society, but I do believe it is my right to enjoy myself while on vacation in their country. One thing I do know about Colombian society is they know how to have a good time! I would not expect them to conform to American societal norms when they visit or to blend-in. And I do not see enjoying my vacation by being sequestered in my apartment, having food delivered throughout the day. Whether one speaks the language or not, I do not think is that important. Just be respectful. Dress nice, be kind and don't be a loud drunk while out among the locals and keep the PDA's to a minimum. What the locals think about me is not my concern. They will think what they will and no matter what I do, I will NEVER blend-in. So what if I am an obvious gringo with a P4 P date. My pesos have the same value as theirs. And if my date is uncomfortable being seen with me in public, then we will stay in. But I would say 95% of my dates have no problem being seen with me in public, despite being an obvious gringo. I understand and respect that they do not wish to be seen by anyone they know, so we opt for Poblado and not Bello. Just another of the endless perspectives on this topic.

I thank you get it. See my previous post. Thanking you are blending in is foolhardy, understanding you don't while being respectful and having fun is the key. See my previous post on this matter.

[LookingToSwing4]

MG I have been doing this a long long time. Self awareness is a big asset in this game, and thinking you blend into Colombian society at age 50 out with a hot 20 year old, no matter how suave you think you are, you are mistaken. As far as how gringos look, there are guys that groom well, in shape, clothes match, speak Spanish that are still clueless on how Colombian society works. This is because we come from planet Mars compared to a society based on the socio-economic aberrations of Colombia.

This is another one of these threads that has many different faces. My life, my choice. I do not intentionally choose to snub Colombian society, but I do believe it is my right to enjoy myself while on vacation in their country. One thing I do know about Colombian society is they know how to have a good time! I would not expect them to conform to American societal norms when they visit or to blend-in. And I do not see enjoying my vacation by being sequestered in my apartment, having food delivered throughout the day. Whether one speaks the language or not, I do not think is that important. Just be respectful. Dress nice, be kind and don't be a loud drunk while out among the locals and keep the PDA's to a minimum. What the locals think about me is not my concern. They will think what they will and no matter what I do, I will NEVER blend-in. So what if I am an obvious gringo with a P4 P date. My pesos have the same value as theirs. And if my date is uncomfortable being seen with me in public, then we will stay in. But I would say 95% of my dates have no problem being seen with me in public, despite being an obvious gringo. I understand and respect that they do not wish to be seen by anyone they know, so we opt for Poblado and not Bello. Just another of the endless perspectives on this topic.

[Phunluv]

Well, if restaurants are an issue there's always the movies. At least you're in a dark room where no one can see you or gossip about you because they're focused on what's on the big screen.

I think sparrow is spot on when it comes to Colombians respecting other's private lives. As long as you don't throw it in people's faces, they will notice, but probably not think much of it or comment about it.

Your social skills and appearance / grooming can also play a part.

My advice would be, once again, aprenda a hablar espanol! That way you can talk about this with your chica. Tell her you'd like to take her out sometime, but only if she's comfortable about it and in a place where she won't feel out of sorts. The two of you could probably figure something out, come to an arrangement.

[Member #4393]

Hmmmm. Sounds like you haven't seen many gringos that didn't look like a monger.

But I get the point you are trying to make. Does seem like there are a few gringos on the board that think people can tell if their date is a prepago just by looking at the girl when the truth is they are looking at the gringo and the chick is just guilty by association.

So for the guys that think it is the girl and not you. Here is a little test you can perform. If your girl won't kiss you in public. You definitely look like a monger. And if she won't let you meet her family and friends she just doesn't like you or know you well enough. Pretty simple actually.

MG I have been doing this a long long time. Self awareness is a big asset in this game, and thinking you blend into Colombian society at age 50 out with a hot 20 year old, no matter how suave you think you are, you are mistaken. As far as how gringos look, there are guys that groom well, in shape, clothes match, speak Spanish that are still clueless on how Colombian society works. This is because we come from planet Mars compared to a society based on the socio-economic aberrations of Colombia.

[SlamCity7777]

Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.

Yes I agree that just being a gringo is not enough to get a non pro in well any where other than China or Korea where that shit still plays and it's a curiosity and status thing.

Hard truth of life. Tall, blond, and Good Looking will always be in style with girls! Just like Long hair, thin body, big tits, long pretty hair, and a fat ass are always in demand.

[Combo]

Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.

THEY ARE EXOTIC TO US, AND WE FOR THEM.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".

Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.

Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.

There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.

20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.

50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.

This change, but it is a slow process.

I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.

Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.

They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.

That's what I love about there culture!

Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!

This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.

I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.

Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.

Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.

Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!

Colombianas like that, they love it.

But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.

That's the reason. They flee their duties!

PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.

Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.

Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.

[Nino Bravo]

Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin..

Well, one has to wonder about a 53 year old guy who gets zero attention from women of any age in the US, then when he goes to Colombia he is suddenly God's gift to 20 year old girls, and comes on forums like this bragging about how these girls simply love him. Then suddenly he gets spurned by one (not the first time he has crashed and burned) then takes drastic reactionary measures by undergoing a face lift. No, this is not normal behavior.

[Mr Enternational]

They are exotic to us, and we for them.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Who is this WE that we are talking about?

[C Jack Sparrow]

I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.

They are exotic to us, and we for them.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".

Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.

Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.

There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.

20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.

50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.

This change, but it is a slow process.

I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.

Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.

They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.

That's what I love about there culture!

Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!

This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.

I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.

Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.

Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.

Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!

Colombianas like that, they love it.

But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.

That's the reason. They flee their duties!

PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.

Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.

Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.

[Soldierb11]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

I am guilty as charged on that account before. I think as someone astutely mentioned Maslow's hierarchy that may have something to do with it. My preferences for LT vs ST change back and forth. I used to be all about the LT and stay several days with a girl and it was great, now more often I go for ST so I can sleep earlier and hit the gym but after that for awhile I will need a LT again to satisfy that urge.

[Member #4394]

Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin.

I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.

[ForceSteeler]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

There nothing wrong with taking a hooker and wine and dine her. Its your money you can do what you want. Just remember at the end of the day she is a hooker and don't every try to turn a hooker into a house wife.

Also why do you guys care if the locals think your with a hooker?. Who cares what they think, I swear people spend to much time worrying about what people think. As a man I don't give a fuck. The one who should be walking in shame is the hooker.

There more social stigma and shame for the women at the end of the day. People will more look down on a women for being a hooker, then a guy that bangs hookers.