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10-27-21 03:18 #50275
Posts: 15922Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Let me say that this was not a random thing. They had a copy of my passport to identify me when I came through. This was in 2017 after my global entry was revoked for who knows what reason. I have written my senator, freedom of information act, pulled my FBI report and everything and still they will not say anything. My next step is to write the head of Homeland Security, and if I get nothing from him, then I will write to the President. They gave me Precheck back and I have Clear, but they recently denied Global Entry again.
In the US they can always confiscate your phone until they open it the hard way then send it back to you at a later date. They are not going to arrest you for not complying. Same thing as Jj was saying about those cars though; if it gets broken in the process then they do not owe you shit.
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10-27-21 02:15 #50274
Posts: 19Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
I actually did ask her how long she will stay, her own words were (as long as you want), the true meaning prolly got lost in the translation.
I get the mindset of a SW, however one thing to note is that I didn't know she was a SW until I saw her afterwards hanging on the side of a nearby street.
I certainly didn't have the same problem with the SW I got right afterwards.
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10-27-21 01:43 #50273
Posts: 586I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.
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10-27-21 01:19 #50272
Posts: 133Nice post. Thanks for posting report and pictures. Superb.
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10-27-21 01:09 #50271
Posts: 2929Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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10-27-21 01:06 #50270
Posts: 2929Originally Posted by Surfer500 [View Original Post]
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10-27-21 01:01 #50269
Posts: 688Wait a minute!
Well, of course the Colombian authorities cannot detain a USA citizen for no reason. Oh; wait a minute. Yes, they can and do and will. But then of course you would get promptly arraigned in front of a judge and could get bail. Oh; wait a minute. No real time frame for arraignment and no bail unless you are a high muckety muck. But of course if you are truly not guilty then the jury will find you innocent. Oh; wait a minute. There is no jury. Well, anyway, if you end up in jail at least you will get three free meals a day. Oh; wait a minute. No, you won't unless you pay inflated prices for food. But of course surely the USA government will intervene on behalf of its citizens since the USA has consistently shown its concern for its overseas *****monger citizens. Well, actually, not so much. But enjoy Colombia, Anthony.
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10-27-21 00:49 #50268
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by RacShack [View Original Post]
Best policy is: First: Do not have keep pictures of Colombian women on your phone or laptop (unless they're like 50+ year old). Second, cooperate with the agents. The vast majority are just doing their job. But if you become antagonistic, there is a good chance they will become antagonistic also, which may not end well.
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10-27-21 00:06 #50267
Posts: 5462Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
The reason I never met him is because he did nothing wrong. In Louisiana, other than driving back to Fort Polk with a 19 year old pregnant white girl. That's not against the law, but it's one of those "probable cause" things. My brother-in-law knew he had done nothing wrong, in fact, he insisted the cop had no right to stop them.
There was one time when I got in the face of a cop. I'm reasonably large and I was furious and it turned out okay. He had done something rather stupid and dangerous and I wasn't going to take it. It happened in Michigan, I'm white, he was white and he deescalated the situation. If I were black, coming at a white cop, like a runaway freight train (as I said, I was furious), there are probably some places where I wouldn't have walked back to my truck and drove away.
Back to my brother-in-law. He got mouthy, he got belligerent and he got shot 5 times in the chest. My sister got a traumatic experience and, after the birth of her daughter, a general discharge under honorable conditions because she was a single mother.
Often you give excellent advice. This is not one of those times.
While it's unlikely a Colombian cop will shoot you, escalating a situation is seldom a good idea, especially when they're well within their rights.
I know you're aware that they have a right to search you before allowing you on a flight. And if they are pulling people in the airport, it's not likely they're just looking for a bribe. From the sound of things they're probably looking for drugs. Which means they probably are only interested in seeing if your phone, laptop and tablet can power up. I had that happen in Houston when returning from Bogota. Powered up my laptop, powered up my phone, strummed a few chords on both my guitar and tiple and then chatted for a few minutes with the agent who had never seen a tiple before.
Now, assuming you're not smuggling drugs inside a phone with the guts removed, tell me, in your expert opinion, which is going to get you on your flight with the least amount of delay:
1. Showing the guy, who doesn't get paid enough to deal with arrogant gringos, that everything is fucking hunky-dory.
2. Telling him you don't have to do what he asks and you're going to get him fired if he doesn't let you go.
Remember, this is in the airport, where there are probably witnesses or some type of electronic surveillance. It's not on the Malecon in Santo Domingo, it's not in Parque Lleras or some taxi traveling to Laureles. So, the whole trying to shake you down for money angle doesn't apply.
The one major flaw in your scenario is "done nothing wrong. " You don't know if someone else has done nothing wrong, especially not a completely anonymous guy on ISG who seems to be really nervous about anyone getting a look at what's on his phone.
If you've done nothing wrong, there's no need to get belligerent. If you've done nothing wrong there's no need to start shouting that Uncle Sam is going to kick the shit out of anyone who tries to detain you. You keep calm, do what's asked and chances are, especially in the airport scenario, you'll quickly be on your way.
Try to remember, driving a car and picking up hookers in Santo Domingo is not the same thing as getting pulled aside for extra inspection at the airport. At least I've never noticed anyone driving a car and picking up a hooker on the jetway. Maybe I need to pay more attention.
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10-26-21 23:48 #50266
Posts: 672Lololo
Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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10-26-21 23:40 #50265
Posts: 540Originally Posted by VasyaPetya [View Original Post]
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10-26-21 23:12 #50264
Posts: 5462Originally Posted by VasyaPetya [View Original Post]
How do you not know, in most places, refusal to comply with a search is considered an admission of guilt? How do you not understand that evidence can appear out of nowhere? How do you convince a Colombian court that a flash drive loaded with kiddie porn doesn't belong to you, when 3 police officers have testified it was found in your luggage? For fucks sake, there are probably 100 k people in US prisons, convicted because the police found some illegal drugs that didn't belong to them.
However, from the way you seem so worried about them looking at your phone, it sounds as if whether they find your stuff, or plant their own stuff, the guilt is pretty obvious.
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10-26-21 22:51 #50263
Posts: 5462Originally Posted by VasyaPetya [View Original Post]
I'm just curious about one thing. Just for the sake of discussion, let's say you're pulled aside for inspection. It happens to me occasionally when I'm crossing in or out of Canada, something I do about 200 times every year. Let's say they want you to unlock your phone, or power up your laptop. In the US, they can confiscate your things if you refuse to comply, they can detain you and they can take your passport, while they wait for the court to authorize using whatever methods necessary to complete the search. I'm pretty sure other countries also have those rights. In fact, the US supports countries like Colombia exercising those rights to help fight the drug trade, kiddie porn, trafficking and all types of smuggling. How do you convince the embassy that you have nothing to hide, when you refused to submit to a lawful search? My guess is, when you finally get to talk to someone from the embassy, the first thing they're going to ask is "why didn't you comply with the search?
Let me share one of my own experiences with you. Over 30 years ago my wife and I were coming back into the US at San Ysidro, after spending a weekend at Rosarito Beach. We weren't bringing anything back, certainly nothing illegal. Then we got pulled aside. They checked our IDs, emptied everything out of the car, opened our suitcases and went through them. Of course they didn't find anything. After letting us load everything back into the car, they directed us to another inspection area, where we sat. Eventually someone came around with a K9 unit, which sniffed all around the car. The dog didn't find anything either.
So we waited, and waited, about 45 minutes we sat there sweating, until finally a Border Patrol agent (before they were C&BP) happened to glance at my wife. The woman comes over and asks our nationality, then start questioning my wife, in a friendly way. Where was she born, what school did she go to, just a couple of basic questions, which she answered.
The agent at the booth had glanced in and decided my wife was Mexican and flagged us for that, but nobody else thought she looked Mexican, so they ran all the other searches on us, until someone finally figured out the problem and cleared us.
We were polite and friendly and compliant so, except for the delay, we didn't have any issues. However, things could have ended up differently if I had been an arrogant, loudmouthed asshole about it. You see, there's a third inspection area at the border. I had to go there a few times to tow cars that had been sent there. That's where they get serious about the search.
At the third area, they remove the seats and the dash, they rip everything open. They pump out the gas and remove and cut open the gas tank, they cut off and cut open the catalytic converter and muffler. They rip off door panels and basically completely destroy the car. And it's all legal. They just need probable cause, and refusal to submit to inspection qualifies as probable cause. When they finish, if they didn't find anything, you're free to go and they'll give you the number of a towing company. They have no obligation to repair your car, or reimburse you.
For most people I always recommend, when dealing with any type of law enforcement, be polite, be calm and comply with their requests. Most of them are decent people just doing their job. If you treat them right, usually you have nothing to worry about.
However, I can tell you're much too important of a person to have to put up with that. You should definitely immediately start yelling about your rights and telling them how much trouble they'll be in for daring to try and search you. You probably should also point out how much money you make compared to them. I'm certain that will yield the best results.
I just hope someone captures the moment and puts it on YouTube.
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10-26-21 22:44 #50262
Posts: 3801Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
What I do know is that in Medellin immediately after entering the International gate at the Rio Negro airport, and just prior to security, there has always been a Colombian policeman who looks over your Passport, asks where your going, or asks nothing at all, and then motions you to one of the scanners and belts. I have typically witnessed people not carrying USA Passports, seems like primarily Colombians flying internationally sent to the belt / line and the police go thru their carry on belongings after they have been x rayed.
I typically when they see my USA Passport am waived thru with no questions asked, and have never seen the police going thru electronics firing up computers or going thru phones of anybody. I suppose if something pops up at immigration which is immediately after security that people may get detained, but have never seen or heard of any searches / detentions at the "tunnels" but sounds like something new and might be more of a terrorism thing which is fine as far as I'm concerned.
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10-26-21 22:28 #50261
Posts: 1910/26 report
I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.
1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.
Prices:
Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.
Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.
White door across the street.
2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.
They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.
Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.
Location: address they gave me was very wonky on map, got late because of it and the original girl I reserved got some other John.
It is the grey door right next to drogueria dar salud la 81.
2nd floor.
Late last night: around 12 pm.
Got another street walkers, sweet baby face and blond hair with extensions, 150 k after negotiations and 2 pimps trying to syphon more money of me.
Funny thing is that she spend another 40 minutes with me trying to take off her painful hair extensions.