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  1. #45473

    SA Spend?

    Hi,

    What would this group recommend as a fair offer for SA girls for either a) the evening for a few hours including dinner, drinks, and the rest of the evening back at the apartment or b) the same as (a) but also spend the night?

    An SA girl just asked for the equivalent to 400 USD for the overnight option. Just starting to have these discussions and will learn the market in Colombia but perhaps this group has thoughts as well.

    Sidenote: this is my second post and received a super helpful response on my first post which was much appreciated. Booked a nice private apartment with outdoor jacuzzi in walking distance to everything near Parque Lleras. Landing for my first time in Medellin on the 25th. Look forward to sharing a trip report afterwards.

  2. #45472
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I hope Admin doesn't have an issue with these photos as this is some of what my buddies sent me today which I found amusing.

    My buddy who is in Medellin was at ground zero today around 2 PM and has been in Medellin for the past two months and is at ground zero everyday in the early afternoon and this is what he said "place was packed. New faces everywhere. Most I've ever seen in El Centro today" and my response was, "not surprising since starting tomorrow it will be totally shutdown until Monday" and his response was, "Exactly".

    What a sad state of affairs for everyone in Colombia.
    Ditto that! I spent 3 or 4 hours and trolled all over yesterday Thursday afternoon, placed was packed and I too saw new faces but also many of the same girls out plying their trade in response to the 3 day curfew.

    I got a few new numbers but did not partake as at about 4 PM I wanted to beat the traffic out of centro and glad I did as there was major traffic jams (tacos) and accidents all over the city.

    I am having my ATF trying to come over this afternoon and stay a day or two. She is a special non-pro that I met a few years ago from where? Bello! Gawd got to love the cuties that bello puts out.

    All is good at ground zero!

    The Tall Man.

  3. #45471

    El Centro Is Like A Box Of Choclates

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    OK the story starts out, "There is this girl. " Judge a book by it's cover fits 90% of the time. I found my 10% wrong but in a good way. This girl sits / stands at the corner of the church fence. She is tall with long hair and short bangs. She is always on her phone and has an angry look about her. She is on the phone, talking to her friends, or sitting next to the vendor cart that is right there but facing away from the people waking by so you do not see her. I saw her off and on for 2 months I was here 7 months ago but never took her. Now back I have watched her for over a month and always wanted to take her. Swearing she would get on her phone during sex or turn into an evil princess and make demands of what I could not do. I finally did the frog thing. I jumped. She was on her phone walking up the hotel stairs and a few minutes into the room. I set her phone down. She never messed with it. She is a happy camper and fun. I have been with her twice. Last time she kicked my empty 5 liter water container on accident walking out the door. Next day I told her she kicked and dented my water container with her fat foot and owes me a new one. Then told her to put her fat feet on a diet. She is thin and could not give a shit what I say or do. She just laughed. I know others have wanted to take her but got the same vibe. Take her. Great personality and I do not know Spanish. So if you know Spanish you should have a better time. One small bad. Boobs are little soft. Not as firm as I had thought with her fit body.
    A most entertaining read your post, and you've hit on a whole multitude of issues about the scene in El Centro and how un-expected and random things can be. You most definitely cannot judge a book by it's cover, and perceptions or vibes of how things might be with a woman you go with, and how things actually transpire in the room are typically unpredictable.

    Unfortunately with the Pandemic, and up until a few weeks ago, Colombia has been one of the few wide open mongering destinations open on the Planet, hence the onslaught of mongers descending on Medellin along with their know it all attitudes as has been noticed by many others since last September.

    As soon as things normalize if ever around the World including Asia, and other venues open back up, there will be less mongers in Colombia.

    Colombia is not really a "user friendly" place to monger compared to other places, albeit inexpensive, with the main drawbacks being the language and danger factor which isn't really an issue in other mongering destinations.

  4. #45470
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I agree that the thugs outside of the Hotel know that gringos stay there and target them, yet the gringos that aren't treated well by the Hotel employees bring it on totally themselves, meaning their dicks to the staff and how they conduct themselves, hence the treatment at times you have described.

    However, for the gringos that are respectful, give them like 2,000 peso tips (which is chump change), they will bend over backwards to accommodate you. The problem is that most gringos are arrogant and totally disrespectful, hence the treatment they get, and deserved..
    How could the locals distinguish the 10 percent of nice gringos from 90 percent of rude gringos? They don't like gringos in the area (or nation) though they may smile to your wallet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I have always had good experiences there, and it simply boils down to "people skills", and you do have to have some Spanish speaking skills.
    For several years, your posts exhibited (cognitive / psychological) bias. You frequently described the Veracruz as the exciting area with many attractive girls. You almost always downplayed the danger and the number of robbed / assaulted gringos in the area. Your description of the Botero area is much closer to your fantasy / imagination and more distant from the reality. When other posters question about your description and offer more realistic picture, you accept their view and modify your position. But next day, you resume posts of the fantasy.

  5. #45469
    Sorry but I hate stupid and that day I walked 2 guys around the block and showed them 5 great girls, 9 bad girls, and to avoid the front of the yellow restaurant. They said they wanted to get a drink or something and I needed to hunt. I walked around the block to fulfill my daily quota (just 1) but nothing found sat that time. Saw the 2 idiots talking to some girls in front of the restaurant I just said not to go to. I watched for 3 minutes and could see the girl they were talking to was looking away a lot (not interested, not needing money). Two days later one of them walks up to chat. I asked him if they both had found a bed buddy the day I left them. He told me how his friend had a horrible girl who had him wash his junk. The guy thought BJ ahead but none to be had. The girl then gave him the rules. "No This. No That. Do not even dream about XYZ. " I asked where his buddy found her and he did tell the truth that they messed up in not listening to me. His buddy before was talking about how they are all hoes and we are the kings and they have to do as they are told since we have the money. I hate that! He said that he lays down the rules before hand so there would not be any problems. But then he paid first. Every damn thing I said not to do he did because he thought he was special.

    This guy staying at Premier Plaza told me he found a new girl and was training her. Like he knows something. That was a girl I knew. She comes out maybe for 5 days, gone 9, appears 1, gone 3, appears 3, gone 11. You never know so he never saw her. I had had her a month prior and twice 7 months ago. But he thought he had found something special and training her. I so wanted to burst his bubble but did not want to ruin anything for her. Idiot!

    Guy staying at Boulevard Botero across from Premier Plaza. He is all proud of himself. He educated some Botero girl about all the money she could make at Park Lleras. But she comes back sometimes and still sees him. He says because, "She must like me". She does go to Park Lleras at times but she has no phone at that time so that is a hard game to play there without one. Well I saw her several times with other guys in Botero and took her twice myself (never had her before that). Guess I must be special too? Saw her today and she has a phone. Told her to meet me this week because I have sexual needs that she has to fulfill. Stop being a * and share your blessings (tits) with me. She called me her * and that she will fit me in ASAP. Love her attitude.

    All the times mongering I never met any foreigners. I did this time because bored and no one to speak English with. Huge mistake. Will never do it again. Each one is stupid, lies, and even tries cock blocking me. Too many examples to list.

    Next.

    OK the story starts out, "There is this girl. " Judge a book by it's cover fits 90% of the time. I found my 10% wrong but in a good way. This girl sits / stands at the corner of the church fence. She is tall with long hair and short bangs. She is always on her phone and has an angry look about her. She is on the phone, talking to her friends, or sitting next to the vendor cart that is right there but facing away from the people waking by so you do not see her. I saw her off and on for 2 months I was here 7 months ago but never took her. Now back I have watched her for over a month and always wanted to take her. Swearing she would get on her phone during sex or turn into an evil princess and make demands of what I could not do. I finally did the frog thing. I jumped. She was on her phone walking up the hotel stairs and a few minutes into the room. I set her phone down. She never messed with it. She is a happy camper and fun. I have been with her twice. Last time she kicked my empty 5 liter water container on accident walking out the door. Next day I told her she kicked and dented my water container with her fat foot and owes me a new one. Then told her to put her fat feet on a diet. She is thin and could not give a shit what I say or do. She just laughed. I know others have wanted to take her but got the same vibe. Take her. Great personality and I do not know Spanish. So if you know Spanish you should have a better time. One small bad. Boobs are little soft. Not as firm as I had thought with her fit body.

  6. #45468

    Ground Zero Observations at 2 PM Thursday

    I hope Admin doesn't have an issue with these photos as this is some of what my buddies sent me today which I found amusing.

    My buddy who is in Medellin was at ground zero today around 2 PM and has been in Medellin for the past two months and is at ground zero everyday in the early afternoon and this is what he said "place was packed. New faces everywhere. Most I've ever seen in El Centro today" and my response was, "not surprising since starting tomorrow it will be totally shutdown until Monday" and his response was, "Exactly".

    What a sad state of affairs for everyone in Colombia.
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  7. #45467

    Response

    He probably could have been a bit more gentlemanly in his response to you but I thought, more or less, the same thing in terms of how well documented the situation is in Botero after about 8 pm. It's a dangerous place even in normal times but now I think only the truly desperate will be out there either hustling for a fix, or a scam, or in your case a robbery or worse. Best to really do your research on this idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    Although you have provided on the ground reports I was also seeking other opinions on the subject. Unfortunately if everyone here had the same attitude as you then the board would descend into chaos within no time and would become completely useless, however if insulting other BM's helps with your own insecurities then go right ahead, knock yourself out. I won't even bother retaliating as its not worth it.

  8. #45466
    I wouldn't plan anything until Bogata announces what's going to be happening it seems like an extension the current curfew guidelines are inevitable and it appears that going to make even more drastic decisions based on the numbers that are coming in in some areas of the country..... Possibly even a month-long national lockdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    I have been in Bogota for a week and flying into MDE tomorrow for another week before I'm back to the US. I have about 20 "girlfriends" there who have given me the lowdown, so sharing it with you.

    During the lockdown, you need to take a taxi / uber everywhere, but there is no problem if you have a girl ready via SA / FB / etc. Clubs and bigger spas are still open. When in doubt, ask them via WhatsApp first. The Mansion in Poblado is open for their pool parties, just arrive via Uber, and don't risk walking if you are in Poblado. Parque Lleras and other "outdoor" spaces are clearly closed, but those girls are working in clubs / spas where they can. Energy is clearly where a lot of girls are going, and the pool I have seen like 200+ WhatsApp stories from girls posting up there. You really can't go out anywhere, so the best bet is to stay in a hotel that has amenities you can enjoy (like onsite restaurants and a pool). My plan is to work during the day, bring a FB girl in for a lunch break, and then if she is good, invite her + her friends back to party that night in the room. All these girls are happy to hustle their own friends and take a rake off the top.

  9. #45465

    Anyone fancy a beer?

    Also, if anyone is in MDE right now and wants to grab a beer at The Mansion or another club, hit me up via PM.

  10. #45464
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTurtle  [View Original Post]
    Good idea. Employees at Premium Plaza hotel don't like gringos, and the gringo clients are not treated good or fairly. Also, frequently their belongings are stolen, or disappearing. Plus, the (organized) punks outside mark gringos in the hotel and they trick or attack the latter.
    I agree that the thugs outside of the Hotel know that gringos stay there and target them, yet the gringos that aren't treated well by the Hotel employees bring it on totally themselves, meaning their dicks to the staff and how they conduct themselves, hence the treatment at times you have described.

    However, for the gringos that are respectful, give them like 2,000 peso tips (which is chump change), they will bend over backwards to accommodate you. The problem is that most gringos are arrogant and totally disrespectful, hence the treatment they get, and deserved.

    I have always had good experiences there, and it simply boils down to "people skills", and you do have to have some Spanish speaking skills.

    I do know of other's who have had problems there, and won't patronize the place, as they can be very strict wanting to see foreigners ID's and verifying Chicas credentials as well, but they are just doing their job.

    If I didn't have a place to stay in Medellin, and was in Medellin right now during the Pandemic, I would stay there, and grease the skids as I like to say with the employees, and go fishing off the balcony during the daytime lockdown.

  11. #45463

    MDE report

    I have been in Bogota for a week and flying into MDE tomorrow for another week before I'm back to the US. I have about 20 "girlfriends" there who have given me the lowdown, so sharing it with you.

    During the lockdown, you need to take a taxi / uber everywhere, but there is no problem if you have a girl ready via SA / FB / etc. Clubs and bigger spas are still open. When in doubt, ask them via WhatsApp first. The Mansion in Poblado is open for their pool parties, just arrive via Uber, and don't risk walking if you are in Poblado. Parque Lleras and other "outdoor" spaces are clearly closed, but those girls are working in clubs / spas where they can. Energy is clearly where a lot of girls are going, and the pool I have seen like 200+ WhatsApp stories from girls posting up there. You really can't go out anywhere, so the best bet is to stay in a hotel that has amenities you can enjoy (like onsite restaurants and a pool). My plan is to work during the day, bring a FB girl in for a lunch break, and then if she is good, invite her + her friends back to party that night in the room. All these girls are happy to hustle their own friends and take a rake off the top.

  12. #45462
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Jbj64.

    Not all the restaurants are closed during the lock down days. There are a few scattered small local restaurants that are open. But you will not know until you walk down the street during lock down to find them. They open their "garage door" half way and then you duck inside. If I remember correctly you have 1 hour of exercise to walk around but I would not wonder off more than 5 blocks away. All large restaurants and franchises will be closed for sit down eating. Many delivery options: Rappi, Domicilios, direct contact. Please do not hurt yourself reading Post #45327 where I stated I had a Rappi delivery.

    YyzTravel.

    I have never been but pretty sure I know enough. Loutron and La Isla are big clubs that require a fairly large attendance to make it worth even opening their doors and then worth getting in trouble for breaking lock down rules. So the chances they will be open would be. What do you think?

    JohnnyO.

    I stated I am at Ground Zero and listed what has happened every single day! It has been posted for years from an abundance of people that Botero is generally considered a no mans land after 8:00 PM even during normal times. But you are asking if going out during a lock down or after curfew is a good time to find girls at Botero? You are not smart enough to simply go find a girl during daytime hours like I have posted that I did? You are a whole new level of ISG village idiot.
    Although you have provided on the ground reports I was also seeking other opinions on the subject. Unfortunately if everyone here had the same attitude as you then the board would descend into chaos within no time and would become completely useless, however if insulting other BM's helps with your own insecurities then go right ahead, knock yourself out. I won't even bother retaliating as its not worth it.

  13. #45461
    Good idea. Employees at Premium Plaza hotel don't like gringos, and the gringo clients are not treated good or fairly. Also, frequently their belongings are stolen, or disappearing. Plus, the (organized) punks outside mark gringos in the hotel and they trick or attack the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate all your advice, it provides a lot to think about. I have actually been at ground zero during full lockdown on my last visit and there certainly were a few girls around but only a small handful. On reflection I don't think PP is a viable option as part of the fun of centro is doing the laps and vetting the chicas as well as the fact I have been refused twice at PP due to ID issues with myself and a chica which I did report about and they may as you have stated put some extra measures in place once full lockdown kicks in.

    This issue for me is that I am doing intensive schooling durning the week which I am committing myself to and once I take care of a few chores there is not much time left before curfew. The weekend is my main chance to unwind, I can get reliable chicas to the apartment but I hate the fact that there is no other option than confinement.

    I guess I'll have to sit this one out or maybe I'll go camping LOL.

  14. #45460

    Your A Pandemic Ground Reporter Now For CNN Maybe Take A Video Of All Of This

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Just my dos pesos about staying at ground zero,

    at 2 minutes to 8 PM last night, as we were leaving the hotel, the whole area was paroled with the most police motorcycles and cars and on foot cops literally with sirens blasting and high powered speakers blasting away for people to leave and to close shops, etc. , etc. , this is what Nazi Germany must have been like clearing out the Jews back in the day. It was almost surreal like I was watching a movie.

    I took a spin around the area in my car, it is now 8:15 pm and things were already completely shut down and people literally fleeing the area.

    The cops take this shit seriously.

    Much love and respect to all, just a heads-up!

    The Tall Man.
    Good advice for others to take the curfew seriously.

    One Chica told me they have buses they throw the people into, and then jail them somehere for thirty six hours, at least this was before the total lockdowns, and charge them a fine.

  15. #45459
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Jbj64.

    Not all the restaurants are closed during the lock down days. There are a few scattered small local restaurants that are open. But you will not know until you walk down the street during lock down to find them. They open their "garage door" half way and then you duck inside. If I remember correctly you have 1 hour of exercise to walk around but I would not wonder off more than 5 blocks away. All large restaurants and franchises will be closed for sit down eating. Many delivery options: Rappi, Domicilios, direct contact. Please do not hurt yourself reading Post #45327 where I stated I had a Rappi delivery.

    YyzTravel.

    I have never been but pretty sure I know enough. Loutron and La Isla are big clubs that require a fairly large attendance to make it worth even opening their doors and then worth getting in trouble for breaking lock down rules. So the chances they will be open would be. What do you think?

    JohnnyO..
    Keep posting, I read your reports, and they are very valuable and I know other's appreciate them as they give them an idea of the challenges of mongering during this difficult time.

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