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  1. #53910

    Mystery solved

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    ...The real reason I posted this is a plug for Listerine. ....
    That is why Brazilian girls have no problem with DFK. You can find it in the bathroom in the Clinicas and in the clubs.

  2. #53909

    My rule of thumb for these get aways with chicas

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokersRule  [View Original Post]
    I'm contemplating flying a Colombian girl to PJU for a few nights at an all inclusive in a couple of months. Coming to MDE soon and will do some scouting.

    Assuming I find someone I like and feel I can get along with for a few nights, (1) is this a bad idea, and (2) how much do you think is fair for this?

    (Not really interested in Dominican girls).
    Is that you know them well enough and they want to be with you enough so that all you need to do is cover expenses and not pay them any extra.

    I realize that may not be realistic in your timeframe, meaning you might not have the time to get to know her that well.

  3. #53908

    Jaja seems like tweezers resonates with more than one mongerer

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I was prepared for objections. First and foremost, it's not going to be cheap. The guys who spend 45 minutes trying to save 5 k aren't likely to be interested. Then there are the guys who just don't see the point. There are those who don't understand the appeal of webcams or porn and are confused when people pay for such things. Of course, there are some who just aren't going to spend money on anything except for sex, so paying for 3 hours of titillating cleaning before paying more for sex, won't interest them.

    Businesses fail. There are many opportunities for this one to go under. I could list several. However, the risk of having tweezers stolen never crossed my mind, as either an objection, or a reason it might fail.

    However, I'm a problem solver. If anyone who contacts the service has their tweezers stolen, they can send me a PM and I will have someone deliver a new pair of tweezers. Just provide your appointment confirmation and a picture of the tweezers.

    I'll also inform my friend, when confirming appointments, to remind customers they should put away all high value items such as dental floss and lotion.
    My point is that it's not necessarily the value of things that get stolen. Stealing is stealing. But in this culture, stealing is papaya, and the girls who do it would more than likely pass a lie detector test for stealing.

    Perhaps the problems seems inflated to me because after a typical week of having twenty-five plus separate sessions with chicas in my hotel room (conservative estimate, actual number 4-5 plus chicas per day), and say half of them are pilfering harmless little items, it adds up when you are the guy constantly replacing the missing items. I don't mean financially but mainly the inconvenience. Perhaps you and others have a hard time relating to those kinds of numbers, I dunno.

    I remember one time I told a chica who had returned from a couple of days prior that after she left from her previous visit my panitos were no where to be found. She promptly pulled them out of her purse and said she "accidentally" took them with her last time. Possibly.

    I doubt the maid service will be making 25+ appearances at any one monger's place in a week, so maybe that's why it will be a non-issue for you.

    I am guilty of skimming and scanning posts here and I don't read a lot of posts especially when you consider how many of the frequent fliers here I have on my Ignore List. You are involved in this business venture, indirectly or directly? Well, that would add some impetus to the likelihood of success. Best of luck!

  4. #53907
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokersRule  [View Original Post]
    I'm contemplating flying a Colombian girl to PJU for a few nights at an all inclusive in a couple of months. Coming to MDE soon and will do some scouting.

    Assuming I find someone I like and feel I can get along with for a few nights, (1) is this a bad idea, and (2) how much do you think is fair for this?

    (Not really interested in Dominican girls).
    1. Is it a bad idea? No. It's not something a lot of guys would do. Judging by all the girls who post Punta Cana pics on Facebook, apparently a lot of guys do it, or 1 guy does it with a lot of girls.

    2. Many girls would be happy for the free trip. Others will expect a big payday. I would consider the extra expenses and lost revenue for the girl weighed against the experience. If it was me, I'd probably offer no less than 200 k per day, and no more than 500 k per day. Or I would leave it open depending on how well it goes.

  5. #53906
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    For working girls, ofc. The vast majority would rather receive oral or give BBBJ than DFK. I think kissing is seen as more intimate, and the sex is just business. ID say compared to only like 25% of sw, at least 75% of casa girls you get DFK during ratos in centro. It's kind of a cultural thing, in Brazil they DFK (and initiate it) a lot more.

    And Paulie, Osteo was talking about his experiences with sw, not non-pros; I assume. No need to jump in white knighting, we're all men here.
    This reminded me of a lot lizard in Oklahoma City about 25 years ago. For clarification, "lot lizard" is the common name for truck stop prostitutes.

    Back in the late 90's, OKC was the lot lizard capitol of the US. Unlike what you would typically find, many of them were young, fresh and attractive. One in particular, caught my eye and a deal was made. She was riding cowgirl and I was doing my best to help her enjoy it. Apparently, I was doing something right, because it went from fairly mechanical sex, to full participation. She started kissing me, then stopped and moved my hands away. Her complaint was that she wasn't supposed to be enjoying it.

  6. #53905

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There are Venezuelans and Colombians in Punta Cana (PUJ). Just look on Skokka.
    Yeah, I know. I guess I'm just thinking I'd prefer to bring someone I have met before.

  7. #53904
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    I wasn't thinking so much something as obvious as money. The little things that can be in some ways more maddening, a favorite pen, a pair of tweezers. These chicas will half-way empty out lotion containers into their own and then add water to yours. Food. Coins. Trinkets. Dental floss. Lighters. Medicine. Drugs you can't report. Or the kind of stuff that is easy to ignore and these maids will assume gringos won't make a big fuss over. The types of objects you would have no idea if the "vast majority" of in-call sex workers were or were not pilfering. No one knows whether it is underreported or doesn't happen. I know the culture, which predicts constancy of behavior, not change of behavior. Culture. We will see.
    I was prepared for objections. First and foremost, it's not going to be cheap. The guys who spend 45 minutes trying to save 5 k aren't likely to be interested. Then there are the guys who just don't see the point. There are those who don't understand the appeal of webcams or porn and are confused when people pay for such things. Of course, there are some who just aren't going to spend money on anything except for sex, so paying for 3 hours of titillating cleaning before paying more for sex, won't interest them.

    Businesses fail. There are many opportunities for this one to go under. I could list several. However, the risk of having tweezers stolen never crossed my mind, as either an objection, or a reason it might fail.

    However, I'm a problem solver. If anyone who contacts the service has their tweezers stolen, they can send me a PM and I will have someone deliver a new pair of tweezers. Just provide your appointment confirmation and a picture of the tweezers.

    I'll also inform my friend, when confirming appointments, to remind customers they should put away all high value items such as dental floss and lotion.

  8. #53903
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokersRule  [View Original Post]
    I'm contemplating flying a Colombian girl to PJU for a few nights at an all inclusive in a couple of months. Coming to MDE soon and will do some scouting. (Not really interested in Dominican girls).
    There are Venezuelans and Colombians in Punta Cana (PUJ). Just look on Skokka.
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  9. #53902

    Of course I believe you

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    I have made out with dozens of girls in Medellin, GFE and making out are the reason why I travel to Medellin. I am more careful with it now as I try to avoid getting strep throat from it- that and eating ass, most of the time its not worth the strep throat for 2 days and antibiotics. To each their own though.
    I still believe the natural culture here is more adverse to kissing than for it, but as I also mentioned, there are plenty of chicas who recognize a marketing opportunity when they see one, jeje.

    The real reason I posted this is a plug for Listerine. I use it after any potential oral transfer of unwanted flora and I have never even had a fever blister.

    And there was the incredible testimonial here a while back about the beauty queen who gave ten thousand blowjobs and used Listerine after each one and never had an adverse outcome.

    Normally, testimonials like that are the lowest level of evidence, but sometimes they can be very compelling. Also, I would recommend against brushing your teeth just before or after any kind of oral encounter since that opens up your gums to the bacteria instead of protecting them. At least that's the theory. Ostee Out.

  10. #53901
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    The Coffee Girls are the prototype in this category. Prob some other categories of P4P street girls I left out but you get the gist.
    The majority of the coffee girls do not go to the room, and the majority of them are not worth writing home about.

    They actually can earn a living, earning between 15 to 30 K on a good day. I've gone with a few of them, and they explained to me that they pay for a flask of coffee, and the proceeds after the flask is empty is there's to keep.

    Contrary to what some may think, they are not of the "point and shoot" variety like most of all the other girls walking around the Veracruz area.

    It needs to be finessed when dealing with them so as not to insult them, because as I mentioned, the majority of them actually earn a living selling coffee.

    If handled properly, they will not be offended by your advances.

    The coffee girl's know what goes on in and around the Veracruz area, so if your Spanish is good enough, I do not discourage anyone from striking up a conversation with one you find appealing.

    However you may end up going thru a bunch of them before finding one that goes to the room.

  11. #53900
    I found my, albeit limited, experience about 50% of the girls I got off FB did DFK. I guess they just actually really like me JEJEJE!

  12. #53899

    Mde pju

    I'm contemplating flying a Colombian girl to PJU for a few nights at an all inclusive in a couple of months. Coming to MDE soon and will do some scouting.

    Assuming I find someone I like and feel I can get along with for a few nights, (1) is this a bad idea, and (2) how much do you think is fair for this?

    (Not really interested in Dominican girls).

  13. #53898

    Spot on

    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    Here's a somewhat amusing topic prompted by a couple of failed negotiations at Fase Dos and Energia Fantasia with two chicas of choice my recent last week in Medellinand a topic which I don't recall having been pondered on this thread.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I never cease to be amused (and somewhat bemused) by the number of working girls who are more than willing to have you thrust your bareback member down their throats (with or without a "propina") but will categorically refuse DFK even for the offer of a generous tip. And (in my experience at least) one more rarely encounters the contraryDFK s; BBBJ no. It's as if these putas while spreading their legs for strangers multiple times per day, remain intent on saving the French kisses for their novias (or perhaps for the few clients that they would rate as a 9 or a 10). BBBJ and screwing (at least CFS) is somehow seen as much less intimate and personal than a little passionate foreplay / making out (even if the passion is as faked as all the "Mi cario", "Mi amor" WhatsApp messages that they send out daily.).

    By contrast, this triggers memories (from High School days back in the 1950's) of make-out sessions with virginal 15 year olds who, while determined to preserve their maidenheads for some future Prince Charming on their wedding nights, were perfectly content to French kiss on the first or second date, promiscuous tongue-probing action and all. Kisses right up there with those newsreel smooches of fiances greeting their GI boyfriends just off a plane home from a front line tour of duty.
    For working girls, ofc. The vast majority would rather receive oral or give BBBJ than DFK. I think kissing is seen as more intimate, and the sex is just business. ID say compared to only like 25% of sw, at least 75% of casa girls you get DFK during ratos in centro. It's kind of a cultural thing, in Brazil they DFK (and initiate it) a lot more.

    And Paulie, Osteo was talking about his experiences with sw, not non-pros; I assume. No need to jump in white knighting, we're all men here.

  14. #53897

    Kissing

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Did you really just compare hookers of 2022 with teenagers exploring their bodies in the 1950's? Even as I have gotten older I am much less inclined to tongue kiss with even normal chicks. It just no longer appeals to me. But I understand that being a hooker seems it would be part of the job description.
    Prepagos, putas, hookers or whatever you want to call them usually only kiss their boyfriends or someone they have feelings for because to them kissing is an intimate thing expressing those emotions they have for the person they are kissing. That is a very basic and old rule. Never been part of their job description.

  15. #53896
    Quote Originally Posted by AdayOkay  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I'm new here, but not new to the hobby (been to Mexico and Thailand). I'm planning a trip to Colombia and I see that a few of you guys have guides / wingmans. I'm planning to stay for a month. So I plan to see some chicas, but also want to site see, hike, check out Guatape, etc. Where do I find a good guide or wingman that's knowledgeable about the mongering scene there? Or if someone can point me in the right direction?
    I could use a wingman to get introduced to casa scene in centro. Please PM me if you found a good one.

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