Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

Unless you are like him who stays in Centro. Your two months will be different from his.

The problem with the 5% Surfer mentioned does not consider other possibilities. I am making up the numbers as one possibility. Every girl has 20 customers, 1 is gringo so now basically all girls are affected. It's not about that they can really make more, but is how they are being stimulated by money that changes the girl's attitude.

This illustrates my point, if only 5% of the mongers in Centro are foreigners, there's no way those 5% are going to affect the market for the locals, who make up 95% of the clients and are not quoted "gringo pricing".

And the thought that the gringos will drive out the locals over time in Centro that was floated is ridiculous as the numbers don't support it.

And believe it or not, there are foreigners here that do get local pricing contrary to what some may think.

Foreign mongers in Centro are very low in numbers, where as in, and around LLeras, it's the opposite, with the mongers being literally all foreigners, hence the ridiculous pricing every one is reporting.

I see the pricing increases in Centro being pretty much inflation driven, versus in the Lleras area being driven by foreigners and the girls savy enough to take advantage of them.

This is the distinction here, Centro and the Lleras area for mongering are very different, however some don't get the distinction here.

[Nounce]

I think your two-month pricing experience has more to do with you than it does with the market. I don't know you but I've spent a bit more than two months at a time in the area.

Unless you are like him who stays in Centro. Your two months will be different from his.

The problem with the 5% Surfer mentioned does not consider other possibilities. I am making up the numbers as one possibility. Every girl has 20 customers, 1 is gringo so now basically all girls are affected. It's not about that they can really make more, but is how they are being stimulated by money that changes the girl's attitude.

[Gabacho]

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.

In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.

I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.

You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.

I've had SGs in Centro quote me 60 mil recently and I always counter with "siempre pago cuarenta mil más la pieza" And 9 times out of 10 they will accept that, very rarely they will counter with 50 mil and even more rarely they won't budge to which I just like "no joda" and move on to the next one.

I suspect the reason they are charging you more is because you are an obvious gringo. Can you even properly pronounce "cuarenta mil"?

[The Tall Man]

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.

In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.

I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.

You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.

I and my wing-man (a Colombian friend) stopped in Avineda Grill (in centro across the street from Botero plaza) yesterday late afternoon / early evening (Saturday 7 PM) and although it was busy with lots of guys enjoying their drinks and many of girls IT WAS THE WORST QUALITY I HAVE SEEN IN 6 YEARS frequenting this club.

The good day are gone, now you have to hunt and hunt to find a decent no scam quality session.

TTM.

[Turgid]

All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!

When you meet a girl in an establishment it seems best to confirm that payment would be made after rapture before you leave the place arm in arm.

[Knowledge]

I think your two-month pricing experience has more to do with you than it does with the market. I don't know you but I've spent a bit more than two months at a time in the area.

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance..

[LoveItHere]

So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.

The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.

The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.

Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.

And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.

If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.

Typically what has happened is that the local made a "offer" below what the SW wanted which typically a lot of the locals do with the SW's.

So the SW's are cognizant of how sensitive pricing can be, and if they all tried to ask for too much would have little to no business.

So the notion that there is going to be a mass exodus of the Centro girls to Poblado in the future is hard to imagine.

And as far as local and gringo pricing, believe it or not, there are gringos here that can and do get "local pricing" in Centro, but they have Spanish speaking skills.

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.

In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.

I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.

You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.

[LoveItHere]

Went to Zandalay Saturday 3:45.9 girls. None were worth a crap. That place is stupid. I walk in. 3 guys and 4 girls at the bar drinking and talking. I buy a drink and sit down at the bench seat alone. 5 minutes later another guy comes in and sits alone across from me at another bench seat. I wait another 10 minutes. During that time a group of 3 guys come up the stairs, look around, and quickly leave. The people working there are too damn stupid to tell the 3 guys to sit down and they will bring out the rest of the girls. The people working there seem to think it is a bar and not a brothel. I have to ask the worker there to show me the girls. The girls introduce themselves and I pay and leave. Coke cost me 6000 COP there versus 3000 COP at the much better New Life.

New Life same day at 4:15. Around 20 girls. Did a pretty one with a pleasing personality. Will hopefully get the other one I wanted on Monday.

FYI New Life Halloween Party October 28th on Saturday.

First time to either one of those in 2. 5 years. Quality down. Talked to a Colombian guy as we walked out who was raised in the USA he said the same thing. He mentioned how 10 years ago the girls were super hot back then.

No pregnant girls at Botero (FYI for those fetish guys to save you a trip). 4 girls now with boob jobs at Centro. Not huge jobs because they had little to start with. I know because I had sex with 3 of them. The 4th one I was not into 2 years ago when I first saw her. She was small last month but suddenly her body shape grabbed my attention. I checked out her body and then her face and realized who she was. Still not interested because one of her friends who also had a boob job was so bad I did not cum.

Getting bored of Centro in just 2. 5 months. Too many repeats. Not enough new girls. With the rainy season now it is boring the crap out of me and the rain has only been here for less than 2 weeks. Will move to Laureles for a week or two and try some spas and online girls. Pray for me.

[Sangnyc21]

I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.

If a girl acts dumb then I tell them call the damn cops. And I explain the situation and give the cops money so that the girl gets nothing. It's a loss either way.

At least if I give it to the cops they won't share with the girl. If I don't then the cops might take the girls side and make me pay the girl and she'll split it with them anyway.

ID at least fuck her in another way and she won't be going to bed happy either. LOL.

[LoveItHere]

Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.

All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!

[Sangnyc21]

Like I said they're playing lotto.

They find one or two guys who pay that.

[Haxagonus]

Hoeflation: the idea that we in our generation have to put in twice the work and pay twice as much for a girl half as good as our grandfathers did.

I messaged a girl in mileroticos on August while I was in Bogota. She's In Medellin and tells me it's 300 k for the hour. I get to Medellin in October and she's like it's 450 k. Messaged her from a Colombian number. It's still 450.

Hoeflation. She's like 7. 5 -8. And she doesn’t do natural oral anymore. Wouldn’t want that anyways. Saw her sucking some tranny guy on camera

[Sangnyc21]

I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?

It's all pros. They all pretend they are high class and not a full time prepago. It's all BS.

I have seen a lot of fb and tinder girls on seeking.

Girls on seeking really play lotto. Trying for 3-500 usd and a free expensive meal. This is the hustle.

[BigFree]

I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.

I have another way to deal with this. If she 'insists' on being paid up front (and you don't like the chances of that working out) OR is changing the agreement and you just want her gone, you do this.

Pretend to go look for the money she wants, then pretend that you don't have enough or any at all (your choice). Tell her that you really thought you had the cash, but that you must have lost it or got pick pocketed, or some other excuse. Tell her she can follow you to an ATM to get the cash. You must do this with a very friendly and believable face. Tell her that you can understand why she'd want money up front, that you too have heard of men who try to cheat girls.

Once you are outside the Hotel / Room, give her taxi money ONLY and say 'adios chica'.

[Haxagonus]

You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".

Crazy lmao. Ok will say that yes. There have been times where I have paid up front and got bad service. Once from a girl who used to do lleras for 250 k then moved to gustos recently and now charges at least 150 usd. I gave her 400 thinking I was being nice because I know her from before she did gustos. She took the money and refused to do another until I have her 50 usd more. I was like gtfo. Did try to take the money back because I don't want problems / it's too much of. A Hassle. The other time was a entro girl I met at lleras. Payed her when we got to my place in hindsight she was ugly af. She started begging for beers and I bought them for her. She wouldn't listen when I would tell her what to do. Wanted to do it her own way. I'm like just gtfo lmao.

Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.

I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.