Medellin Reports

[SankarShetty]

A week used to cost me roughly 3 K including flights, chicas, stay, food and drink. While I eat street food, I also go to restaurants like El cielo or Ricotto, once a day or every other day. I drink but I am neither a heavy drinker not someone who orders cocktails at every lunch and dinner.

I just did a full month with remote work. It cost me about 8 K for everything. This includes about 80 sessions. Majority of them between 1 to 3 hours, some dinner dates and about a week of overnights. I think I must have spent about 4500 on the chicas, some of it on their transport, food and drink. If I average out, then the session costs are typically about 50 plus about another 15 for transport. If I had the digital nomad visa and lived here long term I believe I would have averaged about 4 K USD in monthly expenses. I have been wingman to weekend warriors who typically blow 1 K for the Saturday night including hookah and bottle and 2 chicas. I have seen people blowing 3 K USD at Park Lleras in a single night so don't sharpen your knives for me. My stay averaged about 1800 in the month and 1 K for flight and other transport related costs. Cost and session quality are not related in IMHO. I think familiarity and long term relationship helps improve session.

[MoonShot]

Taking the Metro to El Centro is relatively easy. If you want to learn how to use the Metro, it is a good place to visit with the Parque Barrio station stop. If you get out and go out left to get to the museums, you can see all the statues. Then make a left at the antiques museum and you are heading to the church, the white church where the street walkers hang out. Make a right and that is the main street where most of the street walkers are.

I was just there this afternoon and this is my impression. The vast majority of the girls there are unattractive, old, chubby or combination of the three. But if there will always be one or two girls who are decent enough for you to screw.

As many have said, if you go in the daytime, it is relatively safe because there are a lot of people roaming around. There are many shops there and the locals go shopping there.

On my last visit to El Centro a few months ago, my experience was basically the same. Most of the girls are not to my liking but I can find one or two that I would take.

As to whether these girls also hang out at Parque Lleras, I think the vast majority do not because they would not attract much business. They are generally not the type of girls that gringos are interested in. After paying for airfare and hotel, most guys are not interested in having sex with average looking girls.

[Nounce]

I think you took it the wrong way. My post is meant to add to yours, to be inclusive that both can exist. I guess you took it as I was trying to negate what you said, which is exclusive. If that is the case, I am trying to make it clear here.

I am only describing what I did, and I was in no rush to go to my apartment even after midnight and a whole day of travel. I did not explain the reason and I intentionally not to because some already made up their mind why? LOL. There is actually irony in these posts which is interesting to observe.

...But if you really want to save money, stay home, watch porn and masturbate. You can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars that way.

The reason to take taxi is straightforward. The reason to take the bus can be more complex. ..

When I arrive at Brazil recently, my friend offered to send a family member to pick me up at the airport. I said no, I told her how I was going to get to my place, by Metro and Uber. I said I would call if I had problem entering the area due to Canival traffic restriction. I am convinced now my friend was secretly calling me cheap. hehe

Before I came, they already invited me to go on a road trip together. They paid my share of the deposit for me while I was still in MDE. I just told them I don't have any preference, I will agree to all their decisions, including buses. I can do it if they can. Hehe.

The day we went on the trip, one of girls came wearing a F1 racing baseball hat. She drove 8 hours, with a short lunch stop to reach the destination. The final one and a half hours were unpaved road with pot holes. Once we reached the hotel, unloaded, I just wanted to rest. But they made some drinks and proceeded to drive out again with these glasses on hand over the pot holes filled road. I was amused and took this picture when we were shopping. They are Brazilians after all.

During the trip, the girls would share a single plate (being cheap I guess). But I noticed that I sometimes paid less than I was supposed to. I guess they divided the total bill equally so they ended paying more while ordering less. They are still cheap regardless because I made up my mind. LOL. One night, when the bill came, I told them It would make me very happy if I could pay the dinner for all of us. One of them called me prince made it worth it. Haha.

The fall takes two hours hike and it's well worth it.

Also you should know, people like me, Mr E, Knowledge don't have to return to USA after a short trip.

[Knowledge]

I'm more salty about this than is reasonable because the more you find out about what's behind it the more ridiculous it seems. Whenever anyone even mentions it to me more I close the door, I just leave it open and let the driver close it exactly the way he wants. Life is too short to deal with that nonsense.

What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?

[Knowledge]

In Europe and North America, cars must have side impact panels in the doors to be street legal. There is no such requirement in Colombia. Side impact panels increase the weight and rigidity of car doors. They also of course greatly increase safety. Closing the panel equipped car doors requires more force than closing doors that don't have the panels. This is why locals sometimes don't manage to fully close doors on those few occasions when they find themselves in cars of international specification. That is also why those of us used to vehicles of international specifications use more force than necessary to close the car doors.

That is the factual background. Now for the more meaningful cultural notes. There is very little culture of vehicle maintenance in Colombia of the sort there is in the more developed world. The mentality here is avoiding use equals maintenance. This is why in even the hottest weather Colombian motorists keep their ventilation fans off. It is why during heavy rain, drivers don't turn on their windshield wipers (which are more often than not well past replacement condition) until the road is all but invisible. It challenges logic but the traditional driver wisdom in Colombia is cars will suffer structural damage if the doors are shut too forcefully too many times. In fact, few cars here are on the road long enough for that to occur but this is not a place where long term planning or analysis are very prevalent. It's confusing to the gringo mentality that drivers fret so much about how forcefully a door is closed but drive on dead shocks and worn springs for years, accelerate heavily toward red lights and traffic jams, rarely use neutral to coast or downshift to adjust speed instead of alternating between full acceleration and pumping the brakes over and over again. For the next thread on this subject we can talk about the vehicle horn as emergency equipment vs the way it's used for entertainment and an expression of impatience here.

What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?

[Silvakeviniam]

Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there.

[MoonShot]

To believe that mongers are altruistic guys who want to share information freely to help others without passing judgment on others is naive. The only common link among all of us is that we want to have sex with attractive women and we are willing to pay for it. That by itself is not enough to make us a brotherhood with a lot of common interests. If you read the thread for at least a few pages, you would quickly see that there is a lot of name calling, believe that I'm doing it right and you're doing it wrong, you guys are a bunch of simps because you do certain things, I pay this much and if you pay any more you're an idiot, and other things like that.

It is the way it is because we are all so different and we don't have much in common other than wanting to have sex with attractive women and willingness to pay for it. There is also always this conflict. If we say a lot of positive things about Medellin and make it easier for everyone to come here, there would be a lot more guys coming here. And yet guys here constantly complain that there are too many guys coming here.

In many ways this thread is no different than discussion about politics. People have different opinions on how to do it right in Medellin and they have firm convictions that the way they are doing it is the way it needs to be done and if you're not doing it that way, you're a sucker or a lowlife.

So I do enjoy reading about other people's experiences yet at the same time you might notice that I've almost never asked for assistance on how to do things in Medellin. Instead I just do research on the internet and configure things out myself. I do ask myself this question, do I want to encourage more guys to come to Medellin and if so, why is that a good thing for me?

[Sangnyc21]

Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.

While budgeting accordingly is one thing if your going to dabble over pennies and dimes maybe mongering as a whole is not for you.

Even you plan on going to centro and buying 40 k pussy airbnb costs flight costs food costs. They all add up so with that being said it's a general rule to bring extra.

[Maha Siddha]

I don't understand how anyone can generalize about a mongering venue or the ethnicity of chicas in such a dogmatic manner.

Having spent much of the last five years here, I've found the ladies hanging out around Parque Lleras (as in the casas and strip clubs) to encompass the full spectrum of Chicadom. In terms of looks: The occasional gem, most always several in the quite attractive to doable arrange, and the rest in the you "you couldn't pay me to...... " category. In terms of personality and service: some genuinely engaging and provide great full GFE value for the money; others mechanical clock watchers; the others somewhere in-between. Afro-Colombians, mestizas, blancas (Europeos) in all of the above categories. Over time, one gets pretty good at screening for those that promise to be good company and to provide genuine GFE service.

Some of the El Centro Rats on this thread claim that there's no difference in the quality of chicas to be found loitering about Parque Lleras (or in Gustos for that matter) and those in Plaza Botero and vicinity--and insist that there's, in fact, a large number of chicas working both locations, but charging 4 times the price in Lleras. In their view the only difference between the hotter lookin Llleras chicks and the plainer looking Botero broads is a lot of make-up and pricier / sexier outfits. Although I've never recognized chicas from El Centro in Parque Llleras, I don't doubt that there may well be a fair amount of overlap in the girls working both locations. But (speaking as someone who has spent a fair amount of time in El Centro strip clubs--Barre Ejecutiva, Conejitos, etc. -- and meandering about the Plaza Botero, Calle 53, Avenida de Greiff/Raudall mongering grounds), in my experience, in Parque Llleras one still finds a good number of chicas of a type (quality of looks; education and / or more European ancestry in some cases) that you'd never see in El Centro in your lifetime--except perhaps at midnight mass on Nochebuena (Christmas Eve).

I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS, often start our sessions with a leisurely, pro-quality stripshow/twerk-dance session, and are enjoyable to hang out with. I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's my impression that fairly often in and around Parque Lleras you'll find some better looking (sometimes better educated) chicas who are not working girls (i.e. not regularly doing multiple tricks per day), and who, only when hard up for cash, will go to the Parque to troll for clients, but who would never think of setting foot in El Centro.

How much you paid for this girl "I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS".

[Old Parr]

THANK YOU for this! I guess I'm the OP who asked about the different ways of transit and I appreciate the intel I'm getting here. I believe that this type of forum as well as one I use for my own home territory mongering is a great place to share info and I for one always contribute to the geographical locations I'm experienced with to help others without passing judgement on anyone's personal preferences. So to suggest that I should stay at home just because I would be interested in looking at different cost options of transit and even venues for mongering is just so damn disrespectful. Just because I would rather look at all options available rather than do things only certain ways doesn't mean that I won't enjoy my trip.

Waiting on question #800 from Exoticspirit in a 2 week span! What is it going to be?

[CK465]

Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.

At least I didn't pay 100 mil for 30 minutes cause that would be bad. I know what to expect next time.

[Mr Enternational]

And yes, I am trying to stretch out my travel dollars since Colombia is only one country I'm visiting on this trip. I'm also visiting Peru, Panama and Cayman Islands (where I'm paying $280 US per night for my accommodations) so if I look like a cheap Charlie in Colombia -- too fracking bad! It's my darn trip.

Exactly. I just came back from Seychelles spending $523 on accomodations and $360 on a rental car for a few days. So you will have to excuse me that when I was in Colombia the month before that I only spent $20 per day on airbnb and me and my girl rode the bus 2 hours to Paipa for $8. 70 each each way instead of taking a taxi. A lot of people are spending money on more things than going to Colombia to fuck hookers during their leisure.

[Mr Enternational]

Many general tourists on Tripadvisor have since highly recommended using buses and Metro to get around. One even warned about how a taxi driver went ballistic because the passenger got out on the wrong side of the car so recommended taking other public transportation to avoid such characters.

What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?

[JjBee62]

Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.

New Life and Sexy Amigas were 50 k, 7 years ago. I'm positive they aren't still 50 k.

Mileroticos rates vary from girl to girl. They are not all 50 k, never have been, never will be. If he's happy with what he got for the price he paid, then he's absolutely right.

[DaddyLou37]

Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.

Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.