Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

El Centro is a large area. Plaza Botero is only a small part of El Centro.

There is a portable police station in front of Museo de Antioquia. When the police station is present, it means the police is around. The police will move the station to storage after 8 PM. They will stick around for a while maybe until 9 PM.

The area you want to avoid will be the north toward Prado station, both sides of the Metro unless you are certain you know where you are going. These areas are not necessary dangerous but you may get into areas that will scare you. Raudel block is as far as you should go at night..

Most of the businesses in El Centro close by 8 pm. By 9 pm, except in areas where businesses are still open, it's almost deserted. Unless you're going between open businesses, there's nothing to see that you want to see.

You will see the various homeless people laying down for the night in their usual spots. You'll see the zombies with their tiny black plastic bags and you'll see the recyclers. There are guys who pick up cardboard. There are guys who collect the glass, the plastic, even the aluminum foil. Then there are the ones who take whatever food they can find, often eating it from the garbage bag.

The working girls will mostly be gone, except in front of, or inside the open bars. There's no reason to stand around waiting for customers on a deserted street, or in a deserted park. Plaza Botero will be dead.

If you want to walk around at night, first go during the day. Find the places which will be open at night. Learn your way around between the open businesses.

You can walk around at night and not have a problem. However, except for the strip clubs and a few 24 hour restaurants, there's nothing to see or do.

[Nounce]

El Centro is a large area. Plaza Botero is only a small part of El Centro.

There is a portable police station in front of Museo de Antioquia. When the police station is present, it means the police is around. The police will move the station to storage after 8 PM. They will stick around for a while maybe until 9 PM.

The area you want to avoid will be the north toward Prado station, both sides of the Metro unless you are certain you know where you are going. These areas are not necessary dangerous but you may get into areas that will scare you. Raudel block is as far as you should go at night.

When there is an accident, the police gets there very quick. I have seen it multiple times. That is one reason they are on bikes all the times. I saw a machete fight in the area between Metro station and Botero Plaza. They were fighting like less than 20 feet away from me. The police on bike got there in time to break up the fight.

This is an area with a lot of tourists. The city needs this place to be safe. I also know about a stabbing. All I can say is this, unless you know why the victim is stabbed, and know the consequence. The conclusion made will be speculative without the detail because it is not everyday occurrence.


There is similar constant police presence in the worst drug area, they just guard the street to keep peace. They don't stop people from selling and using drugs.

So use your common sense based on this information.

[Knowledge]

I know a few girls from Centro casas who also work the Gringo Inn and Parque Lleras.

The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. The El Centro Chicks would be like fish out of water in Parque Lleras, not only by how they would be under-dressed, but also by not having experience dealing with the extranjeros that pull Chicks from there. El Centro Chicas cater to locals, not extranjeros who monger in Lleras. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.

In terms of transportation, travel for most of the El Centro Chicas is either by bus or the Metro, ranging from 2200 to 2700 Pesos each way. So for a Chica who travels by Metro, the cost would be the same for them if they got off at the Parque Berrio Station or the Poblado Staion which is a twenty minute walk from Lleras.

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[Balboa]

I agree with you Surfer500. I know of one girl that works near the el centro area and will go to parque lleras but she goes for 150 k and has told me that one time a gringo actually paid her 200 dollars at parque lleras. The girls that go for 30 k seem highly unlikely to be in parque lleras asking over 10 x that amount.

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Well, it's definitely not the norm, however, it does happen, there are at least some Centro girls that go to Lleras.

I was walking about the other day in Botero, saw a cutie selling gum.

Chatted her up, sexy Venezolana, 19 years old.

Her mother was there as well, and not bad looking either.

Anyway, I invited them to a nearby place for a soup and something to drink.

I asked the daughter if she worked as well, in the biz.

She said yes, but in Parque Lleras, for 200-300 kp.

After the lunch, I took the daughter, to a motel, told her I'd pay her afterwards, what I thought was right.
I knew she’d be happy with whatever I gave her.

We obviously bonded, had a good connection, great time.

I gave her 50 k plus a mini VS cream I had on me.

She was happy.

I told her, good luck with the Lleras crowd.

She smiled.

[IamLookin]

I agree with you Surfer500. I know of one girl that works near the el centro area and will go to parque lleras but she goes for 150 k in the el centro area and has told me that one time a gringo actually paid her 200 dollars at parque lleras. The girls that go for 30 k seem highly unlikely to be in parque lleras asking over 10 x that amount.

The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. The El Centro Chicks would be like fish out of water in Parque Lleras, not only by how they would be under-dressed, but also by not having experience dealing with the extranjeros that pull Chicks from there. El Centro Chicas cater to locals, not extranjeros who monger in Lleras. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.

In terms of transportation, travel for most of the El Centro Chicas is either by bus or the Metro, ranging from 2200 to 2700 Pesos each way. So for a Chica who travels by Metro, the cost would be the same for them if they got off at the Parque Berrio Station or the Poblado Staion which is a twenty minute walk from Lleras.

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[Balboa]

For those foreigners / gringos who can't pass as Colombians, meaning you obviously don't belong, you should be of the mindset that there is a big "X" on your back at all times and should never let your guard down, as you are the perfect target for the Ladrones. Not only at night but during the day as well, so being street smart may be helpful, but your at disadvantage being a foreigner.

It's just common sense.

I agree with everything in your post.

Everything has a risk factor.

Can you walk the streets at night. Sure.

Will you get mugged, attacked, etc. Who knows.

But the odds go way up in the late night for sure.

There will always be guys who say they do it, no problem.

Good for them.

We all have our risk / comfort level.

To advise guys, new guys especially, that it's safe, business as usual after dark, is bad advice IMO.

I've been walking the streets of Centro for about 20 years now.

Long before the gringo casa map, when a gringo was scarce and a hot commodity.

Imagine that, LOL.

[PussyRiot]

Hi folks,

It has been 3 or 4 years since I visited Medellin. Now is the time to plan a 2nd visit! However I'm debating whether I should go to Medellin again or visit Cali this time. Has anything changed recently in Medellin scene in terms of prices, girls quality, selection, etc? Any new brothels or strip clubs that I should visit? My to go places were New Life and Energy during the day, and Fase Dos and La Isla at night. I also tried Loutron brothel once. If anything else should be added to my list (or switched) please let me know.

How is Cali scene compared to Medellin? It seems like it is a bit cheaper, but girls are mostly on the thicker side (not my taste, I like them thin) Are girls in Cali more GFE?

Thanks!

If you like thin girls, stick with Medellin. Cali girls are much curvier with implants.

And, Cali isn't much cheaper if you are visiting high end clubs. Actually, more expensive if you liked La Isla or Loutron in Medellin.

Only drawback with Medellin for me was girls are a bit hardened and felt robotic with all the tourism. On the another hand, Cali girls were much nicer and offered GFE on my recent visits.

[IamLookin]

I was recently in Medellin and visited el Centro during the day. I met up with other ISG members and spent the time at the Botero park area. One thing I can say is that even during the day it can be dangerous. During the day there were street fights including a stabbing behind the museum area. Girls I spoke to do not hang around there when it starts getting dark. My recommendation to someone wanting to stay there for the first time is to get a hotel room for just one night. See if it is for you. I can tell you that many ISG members that stay there don’t hang around there after dark.

Jajaja! I was just trolling to flame up the discussion. The days I was :P
Definitely, I did not mind to walk around the Centro at night, when "odd characters" (the gringos) are not around. But I have nearly nothing with me, I keep all 4 eyes open, and I keep distance from any group of 2 or more guys.
I agree with all your comments. I wrote many posts warning people that Centro is DANGEROUS. Overconfidence can be lethal.
Your Darth Vader

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[Nounce]

This is very true. I see Colombians walking in El Centro using their phones. I once pulled out my Samsung S6 in public and two guys tried to grab it from me, foreigners are particularly vulnerable. Beware of advice from guys who say its ok to walk in El Centro late at night.

There is a robbery statistic that El Centro is first on the list followed by El Poblado. The main reason is because these two areas have more tourists.

[Mr Enternational]

The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.

It makes plenty of sense. I have seen it countless times in various countries where a chick gets money in a cheaper place during the day and goes to a more expensive place after. A hooker with a pussy can work anywhere pussy is sold.

You said the magic words "could make", not will make! There are way more people in the market to buy a Toyota than buy a Rolls Royce. (Way more locals strolling downtown than foreigners strolling Parque Lleras). So where you may hope to sell 1 RR per month, you know you can always go over to the Toyota dealership and get plenty of cars sold. You still have to eat.

The other day I bought an air fryer from Kohl's. When I got to the counter and the lady rung it up it said $179. I showed her where it was only $159 on their website. She said the prices are always different there. Why would they sell it online for $159, when they could sell it in the store for $179? They can and do do both! Not many people going into stores these days, but there are plenty going on the website (where prices are in general cheaper) everyday.

P. S. The chicks that I have seen walking around Parque Lleras selling pussy DO look like fish out of water. You would not confuse them with any of the locals that are there to party and hang out with their friends. They walk around the park in circles to try to get a monger's attention. I would not exactly call that catering to foreigners. And just because you see them underdressed downtown does not mean they do not know how to change clothes before they go somewhere else. Give them some credit; they are not stupid.

[Black Page]

Yes we know, this is the start of the bewitching hour in El Centro when the walking dead come out and those who like to linger in the shadows. Only X-men and others like Darth Vader should be out prowling for prey late at night in El Centro.

Jajaja! I was just trolling to flame up the discussion :P
Definitely, I did not mind to walk around the Centro at night, when "odd characters" (the gringos) are not around. But I have nearly nothing with me, I keep all 4 eyes open, and I keep distance from any group of 2 or more guys.
I agree with all your comments. I wrote many posts warning people that Centro is DANGEROUS. Overconfidence can be lethal.
Your Darth Vader

[Turgid]

All due respect Mr. E, but being street smart in the USA isn't going to apply in Medellin late at night, let alone during the daytime in the El Centro. I personally know two gringos who in broad daylight where accosted by guys with knives who actually cut their shirts and pants in an attempt to rob them. In both cases, the common denominator was that they were obvious foreigners and fortunately neither one of them got cut up or anything taken.

Another scenario for others to consider, if they are an obvious foreigner, is that if you are in El Centro late at night walking around when all the businesses are closed and the streets are pretty much deserted, you will stick out like a sore thumb and attract attention. If a group of Malandros see you, they will follow you, corner you, and rob you. Nobody is going to be around to call 911 and summon the cops when they get done with you.

Walking around Avenida de La Grief, the bars on the same street as Hotel Nutibarra, and the bars behind the Church late at night when the bars are open, and people are out on the sidewalk should be okay for most gringos, however, walking around the Veracruz Church area and side street is not a good place to be late at night. These areas are dark, deserted, and a perfect place to be robbed.

For those foreigners / gringos who can't pass as Colombians, meaning you obviously don't belong, you should be of the mindset that there is a big "X" on your back at all times and should never let your guard down, as you are the perfect target for the Ladrones. Not only at night but during the day as well, so being street smart may be helpful, but your at disadvantage being a foreigner.

This is very true. I see Colombians walking in El Centro using their phones. I once pulled out my Samsung S6 in public and two guys tried to grab it from me, foreigners are particularly vulnerable. Beware of advice from guys who say its ok to walk in El Centro late at night.

[Surfer500]

I will add that I don't think the chicks in centro go to other places much. For those that go to other places, depending on where they go, they have to change their hair, makeup, or clothes. Otherwise, they will appear out of place. I think in general, the chick will either have bad or no makeup, bad hair, bad clothes or bad habit so one has to go pass that.

Many are poor. How do they afford transportation?

The notion that Chicks who work the El Centro street scene, and then leave to go other places like Parque Lleras just doesn't make any sense at all. The El Centro Chicks would be like fish out of water in Parque Lleras, not only by how they would be under-dressed, but also by not having experience dealing with the extranjeros that pull Chicks from there. El Centro Chicas cater to locals, not extranjeros who monger in Lleras. Why would a Chica who could make 150 K in Lleras work for 30 K in El Centro.

In terms of transportation, travel for most of the El Centro Chicas is either by bus or the Metro, ranging from 2200 to 2700 Pesos each way. So for a Chica who travels by Metro, the cost would be the same for them if they got off at the Parque Berrio Station or the Poblado Staion which is a twenty minute walk from Lleras.

[MiamiBoy1]

Hi folks,

It has been 3 or 4 years since I visited Medellin. Now is the time to plan a 2nd visit! However I'm debating whether I should go to Medellin again or visit Cali this time. Has anything changed recently in Medellin scene in terms of prices, girls quality, selection, etc? Any new brothels or strip clubs that I should visit? My to go places were New Life and Energy during the day, and Fase Dos and La Isla at night. I also tried Loutron brothel once. If anything else should be added to my list (or switched) please let me know.

How is Cali scene compared to Medellin? It seems like it is a bit cheaper, but girls are mostly on the thicker side (not my taste, I like them thin) Are girls in Cali more GFE?

Thanks!