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  1. #18791

    First time Medelling trip report

    Just back from a week (my first) in Medellin. Much thanks to those who have written useful information in this forum. It is worth reading through all the bickering and nonsenses to gain that valuable info. I've been out of the game for a bit, but was a frequent traveler to Rio in the late 90's early 2000's. I've done the DR, CR and Thailand, so I have some experience with mongering trips. With this report I will try to focus on things I didn't find in the forum, had divergent points of view or perhaps wondered about.

    I spent the first 4 nights at Jakes and last for nights at the Mansion can give my point of view on the relative strengths and weaknesses of those two choices. At the Mansion, was fortunate to meet veteran ISG contributor Geolopes and his friends, who I call the four horsemen of the apussylips. They are longtime friends who monger together. I was appreciative and privileged that they included me in their circle. I hope to meet up with them again.

    I arrived in MDE late Friday night, January 1st knowing that at least for the rest of the holiday weekend action would be slow. Got a sim card for my unlocked old AT&T Samsung galaxy S3 in the Verano shop on the 2nd floor of the airport across from the ATMs. Was 41 K for 40 minutes of talk and 600 GB of data. I didn't run out of either on the trip. Was glad I had the phone loaded as the Taxi driver had a hard time finding Jakes place and having the phone helped quite a bit. I learned that the Medellin address system leaves much to be desired and having a phone with GPS is IMOP indispensable. Also of course getting phone numbers for whatsapp will allow you to build you own stable of putas. My new S6 phone stayed in the safe my entire trip. Airport ATMs were hit or miss that night and needed to try several machines with two of my cards to get 600 k in cash.

    Much has been written on Jake, his accommodations, his girls and other services. I know he has his boosters and detractors. I can only write my point of view and have no interest in joining the debate. Someone had described the furnishing and rooms as Frat House in character and I cannot disagree with this. He is on the fourth floor of a walkup in a nice condo building which increases privacy. He did graciously provide assistance for me getting my bags up and down those stairs. Rooms are private and quiet, bed was comfortable and each room has a safes. Jake provides plenty of clean towels, soap and shampoo. Internet connectivity and speed were excellent.

    For most of my stay, only one other guest was in residence which perhaps led to a more private and peaceful experience. The apartment has a much lower profile then the Mansion and is in more of a residential than commercial area. It may be a little safer, less of a target. It is also walking distance to the Poblado Metro station which I took advantage of to explore the city. Jake has no AC which only bothered me on one warm afternoon. Rooms do have fans. I never had to wait for the bathroom or shower (which are shared except for one small room), but again two rooms were empty. No meals are included but there is an excellent breakfast place three blocks away.

    Jake has a gentleman living with him, Eric who assists with tours and other support. I really enjoyed hanging with Eric, he is a real gentleman who will bend over backwards to help you out. I appreciated him hooking me up on that last NFL Sunday to watch my game. I took the casa tour with Eric that first Saturday knowing that things would be a little dead. I could have found all the casas myself with the map on ISG but had a good time hanging with Eric, Steve and the other gentleman who accompanied us. We visited New Life, Club de Amigas Sexy and Energy. Skeleton crews were on hand and I did not session at any, but decided to revisit Energy during the week. Eric also gives a brief tour of the downtown area, a bit of history and local color.

    For the important part, the girls. First off, Jakes fee is just an introduction fee and you are still expected to pay the girls (Jake recommends 300 k). I hadn't realized that when I reserved with Jake as he makes no mention of that on his site and some might conclude that the $75 is all inclusive. It is still good value for the money, especially for a newbie.

    I had Jake set me up with two of his 'GFE' dates. The first girl was a sold 8+ girl next store type who was a 10+ in the sack. I enjoyed my date with her. Dinner, dancing which we both enjoyed and especially our time in bed. See arrived dressed like a college kid (which she is) out for the night. She seemed genuinely interested in me and was glad I had studied enough Spanish (Pimsler) to hold a basic conversation with her, perhaps establish a connection. Google translator filled in the gaps. If I didn't get her off many times that night, she should get an academy award. She was without doubt the best lay of my trip and alone made my time at Jakes more than worth it.

    The second date was a 9+ truly gorgeous girl. She came dressed like a puta and I felt like more of a target being out with her dressed that way. She made much less of an effort to establish a connection and we didn't go dancing because I could tell she had no interest. The only thing I hate worse in bed than a bad actress, is a girl who is unwilling to try to put in an act. In bed she was clearly not interested, so I just let her give me a BBBJTC. It was excellent and the girl clearly had skills, but for me a BJ is foreplay and I was left unsatisfied with the whole experience. YMMV.

    After four pleasant days at Jakes I headed over to the Mansion. Accommodations at the Mansion are a bit nicer. Rooms have private baths, safes and in room fridges (at Jakes you can put stuff in the kitchen fridge). Wireless was not a great as Jake's, but decent nonetheless. And for some reason the Mansion does not provide shampoo. Also a larger number of Mongers on hand at the Mansion will ensure you have a group of guys to hang with and there will be veterans on hand to advise you. Staff is very service conscious and can pretty much provide any service you require. Was lucky to meet the proprietor Aussy Greg as well.

    The draw of the Mansion is the onsite Putas who seem to start to drift in shortly after breakfast (included). By the evening, Putas outnumbered available mongers. I'the say most are in the 7 - 9 range with a few outliers on both end of the spectrum. Girl there tend to be thin (I suspect nose candy has something to do with that), some bolt-ONS which I hate, but you can find all types and sizes there.

    I did four sessions at the Mansion. Three singles and one doubles. The three single sessions were good but not great. A reasonable effort at acting was made, but I believe it was acting nonetheless. Seems 150 k is the standard fee. All the GFE requirements were met, all the girls asked for a condom for the BJ but agreed to BBBJ with no additional propina or hassle. The doubles session was a highlight of my stay. Someone there recommended I take a specific girl for that and let her pick her partner.

    I've done doubles all over the world and am often disappointed with the tag team approach you often get fucking one girl at time while the other is disengaged. I made clear I wanted a porn experience with everyone fucking or sucking something at all times, and that is what I got. The girls went at each other for about 15 minutes before I dove in and the room had that pleasant pussy smell before I even started in. Excellent session. Girls asked for an extra 50 k each for the session (400 k total) and it was well worth it.

    I did one session at Energy. Girl wanted a 50 k propina for the BBBJ but settled for 30 k. Not GFE but she was such a great lay, I have to say I did enjoy it.

    A few other thoughts. Much has been written here of security and the armed robbery that occurred outside the Mansion while I was there. I felt a little safer than I did in Rio late 90's or so when I was robbed at gunpoint. Perhaps I was just lucky.

    I don't think they have the roving wolf packs of kids that Rio or the prevalence of con men like the beach front shoe shine guys who would sling shit on your shoes when you aren't looking and insist on cleaning it off for an outrageous price. I was warned of pickpockets and noticed many men on the metro had shoulder bags (carried in front), to forestall them. I bought one on my first day. There is much poverty there and in some places the desperation is palpable. I didn't go anywhere in the city without inquiring as to safety as there are parts of town you want to avoid. And certainly the bandits know who the gringos are and where to find them. Veterans including Aussy Greg advised me things there are getting worse, not better.

    I tried to remain as inconspicuous as I could, went out with nothing I could not part with, had spare credit and ATM cards in the safe and so forth. I never felt unsafe but knew I could be a target at any time. On check-in at the Mansion I was surprised by the number of keys I was given, you have to pass through three locked doors just to get into the lobby. I would be willing to pay a few more bucks per night to have a security guard stationed in front of the Mansion at night.

    One final note, I found most of the food excellent, fresh and inexpensive. If you are downtown, be sure to visit Salon Versalles for an excellent Empanada. Much else to do in Medellin, but that has been well covered. Don't miss the cable cars. Yada Yada Yada.

  2. #18790
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricker  [View Original Post]
    It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.

    Pretty funny Ricker.

  3. #18789
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricker  [View Original Post]
    It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.

    Yeah this post will be a front runner the whole year long.

    Quote Originally Posted by Safado1977  [View Original Post]
    Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.

    Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?

    I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
    Are you kidding me? Yes there is a lot of bickering and posturing on this thread but there is also a TON of info if you just skim over the other stuff.

    For example,

    -a few posts back Rubmeister-put out some helpful hints on avoiding being a crime statistic, why is this important? Because an armed robbery just occurred last week at a place many of us stay at.

    -4 posts before yours, not 4 pages but 4 posts Cerebro had a good post on things to do besides mongering which is important for those guys mongering on the down low and need excuses for why they visit Colombia or for dudes that just like to add some culture to their pussy.

    -Blackpage on 4 pages before had some links to reports of distinction.

    -4 pages back as well Cerebro had a good report on his trip.

    -before that Mr Adventure had a positive report on Colombia Jake's place, there was newbie to the mansion as well, some guy that mainly was a casa guy.

    Once you have read you will know what these following places or services are and where they are located and approximately what they should cost and how guy's are reviewing them.

    Medellin- fase 2, the mansion, new life, Colombia Jake, lindas chicas, parque lleras, casas, FB girls.

    Cartagena- Hollywood beach, LDV, the pleyclub, the clock tower.

    Bogota- solitasparati, santa fe, parque 93, atunes, la piscina.

    Skim over the BS. And then come back with more specific questions.

  4. #18788
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricker  [View Original Post]
    It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.
    I always thought that Jackson should set up a second thread of "Reports of Distinction", collecting reports which distinguish themselves but in the other sense. I am not sure what could be a good title.

    I also loved to read the "Banned Users Hall of Shame".

  5. #18787
    Quote Originally Posted by Safado1977  [View Original Post]
    Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.

    Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?

    I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
    It's only January, however, I'm already voting this as 'Post of the Year', LOL.

    😋

  6. #18786

    Medellin

    Making my first trip. Can someone give me the basic info: hotels, locations (to avoid / frequent), clubs, girls, prices etc.

    Also, Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogata? Is one better than the other?

    I tried going through the the reports, but they are all about robberies and other stuff.

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

  7. #18785
    Quote Originally Posted by RubMeister100  [View Original Post]

    Be. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.

    See. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.
    Good report RubMeister. But I don't even carry a debit card or credit card around with me. I get my money from an ATM and then go straight back to my hotel and put the money and cards in the safe. Same thing with a credit card. I only carry the money I think I will need for the day. And I don't carry a wallet.

  8. #18784

    Newbie here! Excited!

    Hello all,

    I just joined after reading the last 50 pages. Lots of info. I am in my planning stages.

  9. #18783
    Good Advice. Personally I wear what I want, where I want. But for the average person this is all good advice. I only had one problem in Medellin late at night but quickly took care of it in a non violent way. Medellin was no more dangerous then any other large city that I been too.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubMeister100  [View Original Post]
    Not to pile on but if the guy was wearing a gold watch and gold chains, then he made himself a target. Frankly, I've never understood jewellery. Seems like pure and simple showing off.

    Some thoughts on personal security while abroad, and especially in second or third world areas.

    1. No jewellery. No rings, no chains, no watch unless it is a simple and visibly cheap plastic watch. No fancy designer sunglasses.

    2. Buy an inexpensive dual sim $75 Android smartphone and leave your "good" phone at home. IPhones are especially noticeable as are the white earbuds.

    3. No designer clothes especially with grading labels visible. You do not impress anyone except potential thieves. Wear simple clean pants like jeans and a button up shirt that you let hang over your pants. A T-shirt shows that you are unarmed. A loose fitting shirt over the waist leaves a question mark as to whether you might be armed. Same with overtly high value shoes, like expensive Puma's or Nike's.

    4. Whenever possible, no backpack. Maybe a shoulder bag worn across your chest. Zipped up to reduce pickpocketing.

    5. Banking and cash.

    A. Have enough cash on hand for the day. If you get accosted, hand it over without any fight nor attitude nor smart remark. Even if you are a Krav maga expert.

    Be. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.

    See. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.

    The. ALWAYS cover your hand when entering your PIN. Even if you think it looks like you don't trust the clerk or no one is looking.

    6. Self Defense- It is almost never worth fighting over theft of money or property. NOTHING you have on your person is worth even breaking your hand over punching the guy in the face.

    However, I strongly recommend that anyone take take a few lessons and Krav Maga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga so that if faced with threats to your physical being that you can respond with more than flailing and girly punches.

    Basically, Krav Maga is a collection of brutal, dirty street fighting techniques derived from many martial arts with an underlying philosophy and designed to deliver an immediate and debilitating strike to a threat so that you can run away. Think kicking in the balls, scratching the guys eyes out and sucker punch flat palmed uppercuts to break his nose. Then running away before he gets up. I know it is not "fair" fighting. It is specifically designed as a brutal self-defence system. It is really easy to learn a few basic moves from any one of many local shops worldwide.

    Just a few stream of consciousness thoughts to share.

  10. #18782

    Medellin at Colombia Jakes and friends

    Thanks to Eric and Jake for a great visit these are now brothers. Introduced me to a great city & casas which I will soon call home and they have the unique tours & chicas GFE for an awesome time & the passion of these girls is nothing short of amazing spend a few bucks come on down they have a great place & will show you the details of this great city and an awesome tour. Bros for life see you soon! As far as the women not much has to be said as they are all amazing and I slept with the first 10 of my life!

  11. #18781

    Things to do in Medellin

    Here are some suggestions for things to do in Medellin:

    1)http://www.realcitytours.com/.

    http://www.realcitytours.com/#!free-walking-tour / c1 hbi This is great free tour in English. They will show the highlights in the Centro of Medellin and more of the real Medellin.

    http://www.realcitytours.com/#!exotic-fruits-tour / c3 bo This is paid tour, but you eat and are shown lots of exotic fruits and were to.

    2) Pablo Escobar Tours http://paisaroad.com/tour-pablo-escobar 3 hours tours, very good price 45 K.

    3) Guatape http://toursguatape.com/ This is a whole day tour. Good price 69 K with breakfast, lunch, a boat trip, visit couple of cities outside Medellin In Spanish, but you can ask for English translation and pay something extra.

    http://toursguatape.com/images/stories/planenglish.pdf

    4) Comuna Tour http://www.comuna13tours.com/ This is a fun tour if you want to see a famous Medellin comun and learn about its history, and take the metro cable with the tour group.

    5) Bike Tourhttp://www.medellinbiketour.com/.

    http://www.medellinbiketour.com/q-a-3

    6) Bici Tour http://www.bicitour.co/ Another bike tour company much cheaper than #4.

    http://www.bicitour.co/horarios

    7) Medellin and Antioquia Tours http://www.turismoenmedellin.com.

    http://www.turismoenmedellin.com/tur...rs-en-medellin#ancla.

    http://www.turismoenmedellin.com/tur...s-en-antioquia#ancla.

    8) The tours bellow are offered by Toucan Cafe http://www.toucancafe.co/tour-schedule/.

    Coffee tasting experience.

    When: Mon to Fri 4 pm – 6 pm at Toucan Café.

    Price: 20,000 COP (minimum 1 person, maximum 15).

    Booking: No need to book, just arrive at 345 pm.

    Private Workshop: The Coffee Tasting Experience can be run as a private event. Contact us for more information.

    Language: English (Spanish on request).

    Barist Workshop.

    When: Can be run weekdays 6 – 8 pm or Saturdays 2 – 4 pm at Toucan Café.

    Price: 100,000 COP per person (minimum 2 people required, maximum 4).

    Booking: We recommend you book at least 2 – 5 days in advance, especially if you prefer our English speaking trainer. Please use the booking form.

    Private Workshop: Can be booked as a private event. Prices on request.

    Language: English or Spanish.

    Half Day tour.

    Medellin Graffiti tour.

    When: Tuesdays & Thursdays at 2 – 6 pm, departs from the Toucan Café.

    Price: 50,000 COP (part proceeds support the education of local youth).

    Booking: Please book 24 hours in advance using the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport.

    Private Tour: this tour can also be run any day of the week as a private tour. Prices on request.

    Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English).

    Full Day Tours.

    Coffee farm and chocolate farm tour.

    When: Tours depart on a regular basis when there is a minimum of 5 people. If you are not a group of 5 people, no problem, contact us and we'll group you together with other people.

    Tour Price: 140,000 COP (about US $50) – part proceeds support the local communities that we visit.

    Booking: Please use the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport.

    Private Tour: this tour can also be run any day of the week as a private tour. Prices on request. Please book with 2 days advance notice.

    Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English).

    Cloud Forest tour.

    When: on demand.

    Private Tour: this tour currently runs as a private tour only, please ask for prices. Please book with 2 days advance notice.

    Booking: Please use the booking form. Or drop by the Toucan Cafe, remember to bring your passport / s.

    Language: Spanish with Bilingual Guide (English) if required.

    9) Other places and other recommendations http://www.touringmedellin.com/things-to-do-2/.

  12. #18780
    Well at least you have their whatsapp. You can keep in touch with them and set things up for the next time you go down.

    Hmm So the metro is happening huh. I think I have taken taxis out of sheer laziness. I really ought to be using the tools available.

    Thanks for vote of confidence in the metro. I think I will partake on my next trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerebro  [View Original Post]
    I did not hook up with any girls I got the whatsapp. It is my only regret. I sort of did not want to at that time. Now I wished I did with two I stay in touch. I can't say much about night club, the night life or strip clubs cause I am not a night monger. I made a couple of trips to Parque Llera at night, but by midnight I was getting ready to go to bed. I did not visit any strip clubs so I don't know. I find that I prefer casa hunting in the mornings and afternoons and prefer to sleep at night. The metro rides were great. They are very scenic and you can see the landscape of Medellin in great detail because the metro is not underground. It is super safe, clean and modern. I always saw Police presence in most if not all the terminals. The metro is the Pride of Medellin that everyone respect and care. Even the delinquents and bums respect the Metro so that is not the place they will likely go except for pickpockets you have to watch out during rush hours. It is easy to use, easier to use than NYC subways and much more cleaner, they run quite often and get you to most places in Medellin. They are very crowded during rush hours. Better than the Taxi? It depends of what you want. It is much cheaper than taxis. It is quick. The taxis are just more convenient to use, but you pay more for it. I don't trust taxis anywhere in the world so I only used then if it absolutely necessary.

    Cerebro

  13. #18779

    Accurate acessment.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubMeister100  [View Original Post]
    Indeed he has a great deal of knowledge on Colombia and the information he posts is valuable. One you get past the routine condescension.

    There are a lot of people in this world who simply listen to another person long enough to find an excuse to start talking about themselves.

    Then there are guys who only listen to others long enough to find a foothold to start criticizing and belittling the person, but doing so claiming they are only trying to help . And if you don't like their "help" then it is your problem.

    As most people likely would, I much prefer reports and information like yours than ones in which I have to endure the routine, reflexive RTFF admonitions and then back and forth until some useful and germaine information is proffered.
    This is the description of an out of control narcissist, whose two main objectives are keeping the spotlight on themselves, and some imagined God-given duty to correct / lecture everyone else, but we already knew that, LOL.

  14. #18778

    Personal Security

    Not to pile on but if the guy was wearing a gold watch and gold chains, then he made himself a target. Frankly, I've never understood jewelery. Seems like pure and simple showing off.

    Some thoughts on personal security while abroad, and especially in second or third world areas.

    1. No jewelery. No rings, no chains, no watch unless it is a simple and visibly cheap plastic watch. No fancy designer sunglasses.

    2. Buy an inexpensive dual sim $75 Android smartphone and leave your "good" phone at home. IPhones are especially noticeable as are the white earbuds.

    3. No designer clothes especially with grading labels visible. You do not impress anyone except potential thieves. Wear simple clean pants like jeans and a button up shirt that you let hang over your pants. A T-shirt shows that you are unarmed. A loose fitting shirt over the waist leaves a question mark as to whether you might be armed. Same with overtly high value shoes, like expensive Puma's or Nike's.

    4. Whenever possible, no backpack. Maybe a shoulder bag worn across your chest. Zipped up to reduce pickpocketing.

    5. Banking and cash.

    A. Have enough cash on hand for the day. If you get accosted, hand it over without any fight nor attitude nor smart remark. Even if you are a Krav maga expert.

    B. Carry one debit card and your credit card. In separate pockets. Have your debit card limited to whatever you think you might need in a day. Personally, I only ever keep $1,000.00 in my account that is tied to my debit card. That way I am never at risk for more than $1 k thought kidnapping, fraud etc. I transfer money to that account as needed to keep $1 k in it.

    C. Use only ATM's in areas you feel are secure.

    D. Always cover your hand when entering your PIN. Even if you think it looks like you don't trust the clerk or no one is looking.

    6. Self Defense- It is almost never worth fighting over theft of money or property. Nothing you have on your person is worth even breaking your hand over punching the guy in the face.

    However, I strongly recommend that anyone take take a few lessons and Krav Maga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga so that if faced with threats to your physical being that you can respond with more than flailing and girly punches.

    Basically, Krav Maga is a collection of brutal, dirty street fighting techniques derived from many martial arts with an underlying philosophy and designed to deliver an immediate and debilitating strike to a threat so that you can run away. Think kicking in the balls, scratching the guys eyes out and sucker punch flat palmed uppercuts to break his nose. Then running away before he gets up. I know it is not "fair" fighting. It is specifically designed as a brutal self-defence system. It is really easy to learn a few basic moves from any one of many local shops worldwide.

    Just a few stream of consciousness thoughts to share.

  15. #18777
    Quote Originally Posted by TimeToPlay  [View Original Post]
    Spot on James Dandy.

    The idea that Medellin is a safe city is laughable in the way saying Chicago, Rio, or San Jose, Cr is safe. Would you put your gold watch and chain on and then go stroll around 8 mile all alone, looking lost and all vulnerable?

    There are literally thousands of poor people tooling around on their crappy broke azz motorbikes, and they know you are a foreigner. They are watching you for an opening and imagining your money in their pants pocket. Fact. The biggest target for this type of crime is guys walking alone, and it takes about 7 second to stop the bike, rob you and get back on.

    Street crime happens all the time in Poblado. You are a target. Once some guys realize this is the reality, they can go from there and have a relatively safe, fun trip. But there will always be risks and hopefully no one reading this (or writing it) is a victim of the street crime in Colombia. Robbers with guns have forced their way into apartments and hotels, held up guys around Park Lleras, shot and killed tourists, Tied up people and robbed safes, and drugged and robbed people using girls as a lure.

    If you travel long enough you have a better than good chance you will be robbed at some point. I have, once many years ago. I also have story after story of guys who have been robbed in Colombia.

    Taking off your gold watches and chain doesn't abate all risk. Sure it reduces visible targets, but the risk is always there due to the fact that you are a known tourist and perceived as a rich foreigner there to spend money.

    If this is out of your comfort zone, don't come. If it is, be street smart and deliberate.
    Very accurate. Guys that never leave Poblado don't realize how many really poor areas there are in MDE. While it's gotten a lot safer in the last decade, there's still a ton of violent crime. And the bad guys know where to look for juicy targets.

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