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  1. #48692

    My dream chica (her body and face) not the character

    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    Tall Man, I tend to agree with you on the rarity of 10's and 9's and that most, if not all, Victoria's Secret Angels would qualify. That said, I'm also on board with those who would allow other types of looks and bodies to qualify for the pantheon. By way of illustration, consider the variety of faces, figures, and heights in the following list of Hollywood ladies from decades long past (when in their most nubile, early 20's primes): Bo Derek (the original, eponymous "Ten" was just 5 ft. 3 in.), Elizabeth Taylor (5'2" Grace Kelly (5'5" Penelope Cruz (5'5" Sophia Loren (5'6" Catherine Deneuve (5' 5" Rita Hayworth (5'6" Marylyn Monroe 5'5", Bridgette Bardot (5'5" Gina Lollogrigida (5'4" Julie Christie (5'2" Perhaps none of these ladies would have met VA's standards for recruiting their models, but I imagine that most BMs over 50 would rate at least some of these ladies a solid 10.

    As a postscript: Sad to say, Victoria's Secrets seems to have gone wokewith the Angels apparently well on their way to becoming a relic of times gone by. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/b...n-rapinoe.html.
    Penelope in Elegy with Ben K.

    I watched that movie alone and she had me utterly transfixed.

    (she and Marilyn are my only 10's on that list).

  2. #48691

    Gustos, La Isla, and Fase Dos during the week?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmnHammer69  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    Wondering if it's better to go to la Isla and Fase dos during the week or if it's worth waiting for the weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    La Isla is much more comfortable, nicer. I would go to both for the first time. You can go to Fase Dos first, go to La Isla if you don't like it, or go to La Isla at different night.
    Do you know if it's worth it to go to Gustos as well during the week? Monday. Wednesday? Same with La Isla and Fase Dos? If so, what's the optimal time to be there on the weekdays? I'm trying to leverage everyone's experiences so I'm not experimenting myself when I get there when someone has already done the leg work since I'm only in town for a couple days. Much appreciated.

  3. #48690
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    This may just mean a shift in the venue of this activity, but I have seen so many chicas on this platform that I guess I will see how this plays out. However word is the equity backers have urged them to cut with pornography. The pandemic increased the amount of this on the internet for sure. Hope this gets the working girls working again. Jajaja.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ing-in-october
    As much as I hated onlyfans, I do got to respect the girls that got in and got their money. I hope when Onlyfans goes away, a lot of these girls will make themselves available for meets.

  4. #48689
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    As this VS photo shows that to be a 10 is a complete anomaly as you need height, above 5'-10" minimum, lean body / MBI, shapely legs and body with a perfectly symmetrical face. There are perhaps a few thousand women in the whole planet of 8 billion people who fall into this category. This is what is needed to be a 10.


    The Tall Man.
    Honestly they all look like toothpicks. Would rather fuck Kim K than "Super models".

  5. #48688

    Well.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Have you ever actually met a woman? I'm not trying to be offensive, but the statements you keep making indicate you have little or no experience with women. It's not limited to prostitutes, it's most women. They are insecure about their looks. That insecurity is ingrained in them as they grow up.


    None of that matters if you understand that you can set the price, within reason. Just because she's quoting a high number doesn't mean you have to pay it. You give her back the price you're willing to pay. She either accepts it, or you thank her for her time and walk away. Usually you'll find her offering a lower price, if not immediately, then later when her prospects are dim.
    Funny how people say "no offense" when that's exactly their intention. As for experience 30 civi's and 90+ working girls. It's simple supply and demand. The top 5% don't want your 200 mil, they learn their worth very quickly, and know they can get more. If they are first starting out or if the rent is due maybe they'll settle for a bit less but don't expect to get her for too much under her average rate. The top girls know what they are doing. I speak fluent Spanish and have had some of the girls open up about the game. The top girls rub shoulders with musical artists and cartel members, the type of girls that have no job but are constantly on vacations and at high end restaurants. 600 k+ for an hour with a lingerie model is not a big deal to some of us. Some of us can afford to go after what we want. Everyone here criticizes anyone who pays 300 k+. I stayed in Colombia for 2 months I was spending 1000 dollars a week on girls, it was no sweat. Everyone has their budget. I can assure you none of the girls I saw would even consider a 200-250 k offer. And before anyone asks, yes I got a burner number and messaged the girls pretending to be someone else to see how hard you could haggle and how low I could get them. I like collecting data. Wink wink. The girls in the high end circles don't go under 350 k-400 k, roughly 100 US to them. The super high end ones will charge you 500-600 k for an hour on Tuesday. For any newbies reading, prices spike on weekends, It's like Uber rush hour. If you want to dip your toes in the high end game try a random weekday.

  6. #48687

    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    I agree 10's are rare and even 9's too, when you get down to 7's that starts to become fairly common. Here is my scale of 1-10 from 5 up:

    5 - Completely average looking, not ugly or attractive, no impressive tits or ass, etc.

    6 - Slightly cute on average, to some maybe average to others maybe attractive, might have better than average tits or ass.

    7 - The general attractive person, may still look average compared next to a model type, more than likely nice tits or ass, if lacking curves then stronger in face.

    7. 5 - This starts getting toward the attractive people who are more fit, well groomed, nicer body tone, getting towards more really nice tits or ass.

    8 - This is a bona fide all around good looking person, in top shape, probably with a really desirable ass and / or fits.

    9 - This is the level of good looks where becoming a model or actor happens, great hits and ass, good height, all features sound.

    10 - the best of the 9's, perfect shape, perfect height, 6-2 to 6-4 for men, 5-7 to 5-9 for women, great tits, ass, lips.
    As a Assman myself, I don't see a lot of thick, small waist, big ass women on the escort sites mentioned by mongers. My best guess would be the more mature generation of mongers are influencing the market towards thinner small women because my jaw would literally drop from seeing some of the asses on SW's from youtube videos of the area's. I guess that put's me in a better position since they're not in demand, just wanted to avoid walking tours haha.

  7. #48686

    Should MC et al, have internet free speech veto powers

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    This may just mean a shift in the venue of this activity, but I have seen so many chicas on this platform that I guess I will see how this plays out. However word is the equity backers have urged them to cut with pornography. The pandemic increased the amount of this on the internet for sure. Hope this gets the working girls working again. Jajaja.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ing-in-october
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/o...x-workers.html

    Long live BC.

  8. #48685

    Loved your numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    Tall Man, I tend to agree with you on the rarity of 10's and 9's and that most, if not all, Victoria's Secret Angels would qualify. That said, I'm also on board with those who would allow other types of looks and bodies to qualify for the pantheon. By way of illustration, consider the variety of faces, figures, and heights in the following list of Hollywood ladies from decades long past (when in their most nubile, early 20's primes): Bo Derek (the original, eponymous "Ten" was just 5 ft. 3 in.), Elizabeth Taylor (5'2" Grace Kelly (5'5" Penelope Cruz (5'5" Sophia Loren (5'6" Catherine Deneuve (5' 5" Rita Hayworth (5'6" Marylyn Monroe 5'5", Bridgette Bardot (5'5" Gina Lollogrigida (5'4" Julie Christie (5'2" Perhaps none of these ladies would have met VA's standards for recruiting their models, but I imagine that most BMs over 50 would rate at least some of these ladies a solid 10.

    As a postscript: Sad to say, Victoria's Secrets seems to have gone wokewith the Angels apparently well on their way to becoming a relic of times gone by. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/b...n-rapinoe.html
    Great examples, Agree, they all deserve the highest grade possible, and yet look how different they are. Viva la difference!

  9. #48684
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That means that I must not know my ass from a hole in the ground. Tyra Banks was a VS model and I have never been attracted to her.
    Ha! I totally agree. She has nice tits. The rest is nothing special.

    I also never thought Giselle Bunchen was that great.

    But obviously in both cases, I'm in the minority.

  10. #48683

    Two hours is an important nexus point in time with a Pay for Play

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    Hey friend,

    But if I like to take her in my apartment for 2 hours how much the I ave to pay her (around)?

    Thanks.
    Once you go one minute over two hours, you have entered "all night" land. The rate after two hours goes up to 300 mil COP, which also happens to be the overnight rate. You can kick her out when you want, but she will stay overnight for 300 mil COP. A puta exit is at dawn, literally. If you are really Jonezin and groovin and want to do breakfast or fuck her after the sun comes up, that is negotiable or malleable or whatever. As aways, she will expect tip and taxi as separate. You can stone wall her and say no and that will be the last time you see her. No problem. A great overnight I will tip 50 mil COP, standard 20-30. Taxi, 20 mil COP or tell her you will get her an Uber (obvio app on your smart phone), it will be cheaper and then you know where she went in case she ripped you off. I wrote this like it is set in stone, and obviously, it's not. There are variations and variables. Keep On Keepin' On! Oh fuck, I didn't answer your question. 2 hours, 200 mil COP. All the stuff I wrote above starts the minute after two hours.

  11. #48682
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    5 - Completely average looking, not ugly or attractive, no impressive tits or ass, etc.

    6 - Slightly cute on average, to some maybe average to others maybe attractive, might have better than average tits or ass.

    7 - The general attractive person, may still look average compared next to a model type, more than likely nice tits or ass, if lacking curves then stronger in face.

    7. 5 - This starts getting toward the attractive people who are more fit, well groomed, nicer body tone, getting towards more really nice tits or ass.

    8 - This is a bona fide all around good looking person, in top shape, probably with a really desirable ass and / or fits.

    9 - This is the level of good looks where becoming a model or actor happens, great hits and ass, good height, all features sound.

    10 - the best of the 9's, perfect shape, perfect height, 6-2 to 6-4 for men, 5-7 to 5-9 for women, great tits, ass, lips.
    OMG this tells you everyhitng you need ti know. What about the folks that don't really value tits or arse. They value shape or curves or face or colour or height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    7 - The general attractive person, may still look average compared next to a model type, more than likely nice tits or ass, if lacking curves then stronger in face..
    OMG again. You mean like Wynona rider and Anthony Hopkins?

    Ok, I promise I am going to back off this rating scale now. I have said it enough times already.

  12. #48681

    Tougher Grading Scale Than Me

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    I have had some truly beautiful women in my life and get it that there is usually a marked difference between their beauty and their performance.

    I like others have had a 6 that after spending a few hours with them became an 8 or better and also have had a truly 8 or arguably a 9 (Moscow in 1994 and Czech Republic circa 1998 and Rio circa 2001) and would never even think of a repeat as their was little connection on any level with them, but it was fun.

    So there is always talk about the rating 1 to 10 and I see some photos that have been posted on these boards in the past 15 years or so and the comments that go along with them as I too have posted many photos of women from my adventures but it is time for a reality check for all of us.

    Here is the baseline, it is the Victoria Secret women, undoubtedly every one is a 10. So using this as the benchmark we all need to reset out view of what a 10 is, myself included.

    Here in Medellin over the past 10 years I have encountered a handful of beautiful women, probably 3 that have stood out in 10 years and maybe close to a thousand encounters.

    So using the new VS as a baseline the best most beautiful woman I have been with in the all of Colombia has been at best an 8 on the scale.

    Typically I weekly have a few 5's, a few others who are 6 to 7's and seldom an 8 and never ever a 9 or above and this is in 10 years and a thousand encounters including the clubs, the mall, the FB chicas, the high end clubs and discos and everywhere else including the elite clubs / bars of high end Bogota bars.

    As this VS photo shows that to be a 10 is a complete anomaly as you need height, above 5'-10" minimum, lean body / MBI, shapely legs and body with a perfectly symmetrical face. There are perhaps a few thousand women in the whole planet of 8 billion people who fall into this category. This is what is needed to be a 10.

    Much love and respect to all! Now I return you all to the normal broadcast, just keep in mind the new reference point.

    The Tall Man.
    I agree 10's are rare and even 9's too, when you get down to 7's that starts to become fairly common. Here is my scale of 1-10 from 5 up:

    5 - Completely average looking, not ugly or attractive, no impressive tits or ass, etc.

    6 - Slightly cute on average, to some maybe average to others maybe attractive, might have better than average tits or ass.

    7 - The general attractive person, may still look average compared next to a model type, more than likely nice tits or ass, if lacking curves then stronger in face.

    7. 5 - This starts getting toward the attractive people who are more fit, well groomed, nicer body tone, getting towards more really nice tits or ass.

    8 - This is a bona fide all around good looking person, in top shape, probably with a really desirable ass and / or fits.

    9 - This is the level of good looks where becoming a model or actor happens, great hits and ass, good height, all features sound.

    10 - the best of the 9's, perfect shape, perfect height, 6-2 to 6-4 for men, 5-7 to 5-9 for women, great tits, ass, lips.

  13. #48680
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Here is the baseline, it is the Victoria Secret women, undoubtedly every one is a 10. So using this as the benchmark we all need to reset out view of what a 10 is, myself included.....Here in Medellin over the past 10 years I have encountered a handful of beautiful women, probably 3 that have stood out in 10 years and maybe close to a thousand encounters......So using the new VS as a baseline the best most beautiful woman I have been with in the all of Colombia has been at best an 8 on the scale....The Tall Man.
    Tall Man, I tend to agree with you on the rarity of 10's and 9's and that most, if not all, Victoria's Secret Angels would qualify. That said, I'm also on board with those who would allow other types of looks and bodies to qualify for the pantheon. By way of illustration, consider the variety of faces, figures, and heights in the following list of Hollywood ladies from decades long past (when in their most nubile, early 20's primes): Bo Derek (the original, eponymous "Ten" was just 5 ft. 3 in.), Elizabeth Taylor (5'2" Grace Kelly (5'5" Penelope Cruz (5'5" Sophia Loren (5'6" Catherine Deneuve (5' 5" Rita Hayworth (5'6" Marylyn Monroe 5'5", Bridgette Bardot (5'5" Gina Lollogrigida (5'4" Julie Christie (5'2" Perhaps none of these ladies would have met VA's standards for recruiting their models, but I imagine that most BMs over 50 would rate at least some of these ladies a solid 10.

    As a postscript: Sad to say, Victoria's Secrets seems to have gone woke—with the Angels apparently well on their way to becoming a relic of times gone by. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/b...n-rapinoe.html.

  14. #48679
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Here is the baseline, it is the Victoria Secret women, undoubtedly every one is a 10. So using this as the benchmark we all need to reset out view of what a 10 is, myself included.
    That means that I must not know my ass from a hole in the ground. Tyra Banks was a VS model and I have never been attracted to her.

  15. #48678
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    I always laugh at the guy who thinks the girls under 5 ft 7 could be a 10. Thats why I love Kenya. There's more tall choices, but I won't say more beauty, but more with natural bodies. But I like Colombia as well. Don't mistake me.
    Nobody would ever mistake you here! LOL.

    Not sure what you mean by natural bodies.

    Are you saying that a lot of Colombian women don't have natural bodies compared to Kenyans.

    And are you also saying that not many Colombian women taller than 5 ft 7 could be a 10?

    I don't think many of the board members here would agree with that.

    Sounds like you've found your "go to" mongering destination.

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