Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things. I am a bigger guy and have no problem in terms of safety in any American city, but obviously I know even in American cities no matter how tough you are there are certain neighborhoods you just don't fuck with.

On Botero

Plaza Botero isn't a party zone. It's a open plaza area full of Fernando Botero's statues. People come from all over the world to take selfies with the statues, often with their hand in an inappropriate place. On one side of the Plaza is the Museum of Antioquia. On the other side is the Palace of Culture. Both are worth a visit.

With the influx of Venezuelan refugees in recent years, the Plaza has become populated with Venezuelan working girls. Not far from the plaza are the main areas where Medellin prostitutes offer their services.

These are daytime activities. After 8 pm, the Plaza empties out and the police go home. After 9 pm there's nothing open except for the strip clubs and bars across the street.

There are night club areas in El Centro similar to Parque Lleras, on a smaller scale. The Tranvia (part of the Metro system, accessible at San Antonio station) will take you to one of them. However, you will find no gringos there. I suspect you may find some working girls. There are nightclub areas all over the city and you're likely to find working girls in any. They like to party. The difference is, when they go to Parque Lleras, they go to work. When they go to La 70 or any other zone, they go to party. I'd tone down my approach and let them come to me. On the plus side, prices will be less and you'll be the only gringo there.

On Facebook

Create a new email account. Do not use it for anyone associated with friends and family. Use that email to set up a Facebook account. Don't put your phone number into Facebook. Don't let Facebook import your contacts. Don't use pictures of yourself which you have shared with friends and family. Don't put in your home city, place of employment, high school, etc. Use other information.

Once you have set up Facebook, add in some interests. Search for night clubs you've visited in Parque Lleras. Search for restaurants you like. Add a few photos. Travel photos are good. You want Facebook to think you're a normal guy doing normal things.

Now add some "friends. " From the search bar type "happy ending Medellin. " It's an account which was a massage parlor. The friend list can be viewed by anyone. The women on the friend list are almost all prostitutes. Many of the men are gringos who go to Medellin for prostitutes. It's like a LinkedIn for getting laid.

Start requesting to add women as friends. Don't try to add them all at once. Start slow. Here's the method I used:

1. View the girls profile. Look at her "About Info. " Look for a birthday. This is just to get an idea of her age.

2. Look at her pictures. Sexy pictures? Pool pics? Pics in elevators? Look at a few sexy pics. Who commented? Who liked? These are possibly other people you want to friend.

3. Can you see her friend list? Her friends are another source of possible friends. I'll often go 4 levels deep (friend of a friend of a friend of the girl) looking for girls to add.

4. Like what you see? Click add friend. Now back up, pick another girl and repeat. Take your time. Every time you have a few minutes, try to add a few girls. Don't try to add 50 at a time. Paying attention to the whole profile slows you down.

5. Wait for responses. Women will start accepting your friend request. Some will message you.

After that, keep your Facebook active. Add an occasional picture. Share something you see on a girl's Facebook.

[Balboa]

I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

You probably would not like Botero. It is nothing like Lleras where people go to party and it is nothing like the local party scene where you live. It is just hookers out trying to make some money. There, you have to be in charge of creating your own fun.

Why don't you ever see Colombian guys picking up chicks in Parque Lleras?

I agree w Mr Ent.

If you like P Lleras and that scene, and those girls there, you most likely won't like Botero.

Go out to Botero and take a look though, there are all shapes and sizes out there.
More of an afternoon to dusk type endeavor and definitely dont expect a P Lleras atmosphere at all.
Keep an eye on your stuff, your pockets, dont flash your phone, wallet, etc.
Doesnt matter how big you are, they just hit quick and run.
Theyre (the lurking thieves) arent there to fight you, just looking for a quick grab and run.

I personally like Botero, but others are definitely better suited by the insulated P Lleras / el Poblado scene.

I cant stand when those Lleras chicas approach and say Hola, fuky fuky, sucky, sucky.
Im not into the chicas who’ve been w lots of gringos.
I have nothing against gringos, Im one as well, Lol.

The girls normally get spoiled and ruined though.
Not my thing.

I like and Im good at the hunt for unspoiled talent.

Also, I have seen Veracruz and Mayorista girls walking Lleras.

Quite a few actually.

They've found where to find the quick peso from the gringo.

Definitely get on FB though.

[Balboa]

I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.

I totally agree.

They are all individuals, mostly cool I've found.

I travel international quite frequently, probably like a lot of us here.

There are some, however, that may or can turn something you say into something else, etc.

I just keep it friendly and simple, no sly remarks, etc.

Why do that?

Like Turgid said, even after everything gets cleared up, you've still most likely been greatly inconvenienced.

[Lucky Nuts]

For those with Global Entry and SENTRI, I would be concerned about telling immigration officers about the true purpose of your travels as it might affect your ability to renew into these programs at a later date.

I've had Global Entry since 2013 and so had to renew it in 2018. I discussed my hobby with the officer during the interview in Maimi. He asked me what county was best and I told him I like the Paisas in Colombia. He said he has heard the Paisas are beautiful and would love to make a trip to Medellin. Our hobby is definitely not an issue with USA Immigration.

[LoverBoy1024]

After missing my connecting flight in Bogota (not enough time to get through immigration), it was a long day. Made the mistake of getting a freelance taxi driver. I'm sure I paid too much at 80 k, but at least he was honest and delivered me to my hotel. He even paid for the tunnel himself for that price. Arrived at the Nutibara Hotel around 1 pm.

I went out to look for some fruit around 3 pm. I got a pineapple, 4 large avocados and this type of fruit that seems to be like a pear but is pink inside and has lots of hard seeds (didn't like it and threw it away). The pineapple and avocado were really good.

Unpacked and took a nap. Loud noise outside with the fruit sellers calling out on loud speakers so I popped in some ear plugs. Got up around 6:30 pm and walked toward Conjetas. Still lots of people around. Stopped at a restaurant and ordered a chicken dinner and beer 8300 pesos). Went to Conjetas where I was warmly greeted. Drank too much beer. Mostly girls I wasn't attracted to, but also couldn't see anyone taking girls for sexo. Went to a little bar on a side street and bought a girl a drink but my phone had no data so couldn't communicate on google translate. She was trying to break a world record for drinking her beer so I bounced before she could ask for another. I was kind of frustrated by then so I walked over to Botero plaza and grabbed the second SW who approached me. I gave her 50 k and still she kept trying to up-sell me. I know, I should have done a lot of things differently. Not a good experience. Total for all my mistakes yesterday: about $100. We'll let's see if I can do better today!

On the point of safety here, it seems chaotic but there are lots of people and police around even at 10:30 pm on a Friday night. I didn't feel unsafe.

[Mr Enternational]

I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things.

You probably would not like Botero. It is nothing like Lleras where people go to party and it is nothing like the local party scene where you live. It is just hookers out trying to make some money. There, you have to be in charge of creating your own fun.

Why don't you ever see Colombian guys picking up chicks in Parque Lleras?

[Turgid]

I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.

I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.

[Turgid]

You have not elaborated how bad it ended up for you. Plenty of people enter US not knowing English everyday.

What do you think the immigration think what sex vacation is?

It was actually quite foolish on my part. I thought my Spanish was improving as I had successfully interacted with some working girls while in Medellin. Landing at the airport and happening upon this Latina immigration officer I thought I'd give my Spanish a try. It went well for the first couple exchanges but then she would have discovered that I was not a Spanish speaker at all and somehow that might have pissed her off. After I left immigration I was met by some officers who ushered me into a room and gave me the third degree obviously at the behest of the immigration officer.

[KilledSoul]

I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?

Everybody makes a fake FB account for their supply of Bello chicas. I just have to warn that after cambridge Analytica scandal FB is actively suspending accounts which feels like a fake account.

My advice is to add the girls slowly, also add some guys to your account, mostly other mongers and give your FB 3 months to have a collection of 200 Bello beauties in your friend list.

[Njoean197]

Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.

I just don't want to stay at a place and bring WGs back and start getting the evil eye from the staff like last time LOL. Narrowing my trip hotel choices down to Poblado Plaza, Lloyds, Maderio, Holiday Inn, or maybe go all out and stay at Dann Carlton if I can catch it at a good sale rate. Sorry for listing hotels, but these are pretty prominent Hotels on any website search, so I figured it won't make too big a difference. Anybody have any experience mongering at any of these places?

[Njoean197]

Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.
Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.
On another note.
On a whim, I got into the FB game.
This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.
Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.
I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.
It's a tough life there.
She came over and just punished me! LOL.
Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.
I can see why FB scene has taken off!
Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.
Fun!
Botero was a total winner for me too!
The Vennies Rock!
I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.
They laugh and like it.
Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.
Enjoy guys!

I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things. I am a bigger guy and have no problem in terms of safety in any American city, but obviously I know even in American cities no matter how tough you are there are certain neighborhoods you just don't fuck with. Number 1- theres no reason to go there, no girls, bars, etc. Number 2- Crime and Poverty is rampant. I read on some sources that Botero Plaza / Centro is a crime and poverty ridden neighborhood and other people swear its awesome. I have a high risk tolerance, but I am not stupid. Is it just plain stupid for me to party there at night? Everywhere I read it says once its gets dark, gringos should get out of there.

Are Centro and Lleras the only areas to find quality WGs? What would my chances be of finding a quality WG in Laureles around 70th street nightlife? On my last trip I never made it out of Parque Lleras, but I definately want to explore the city more.

I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?

[Mojo Bandit]

That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.

Each time I have returned from Colombia the first stop and so then my Border Patrol / Customs experience is always Miami. I think maybe the third time a BP agent ask me on a return from Cartagena, "why Cartagena?" and I said "its a beautiful city. You should visit" and he said "what about the women?" and I said "just as beautiful". He smiled. I never even suspected that he might have known I was mongering until you guys started this conversation. Other than that time though I have never been questioned more than asking me the purpose of my visit, and I always just say "vacation".

That being said, I remember when leaving Colombia was a whole different show than it is now. I cannot attest to what Medellin was like but ten years ago when I would leave Cartagena, before the airport was as big as it is now, it was like something out of bad movie about a foreign country, guys standing / sitting around in Army uniforms toting machine guns and opening your suitcases on tables and sending me to the conveyor belt x ray machine. It would have done no good to stick it in my ass LOL.

[JjBee62]

You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.

It's the same game, just a different field.

The CB and P people at the airport are doing the same thing as the people at the border crossings. They have only 2 responsibilities:

1. Make sure you're legal to enter.

2. Make sure you're not bringing in anything illegal.

That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.

In either case, if you're relaxed, smiling and open, you're a lot less suspicious than if you're worried about what questions they're going to ask you.

My finest moment:

I got sent around to go through x-ray. Usually they would also send me inside for a paperwork verification, but they didn't mention it. Just to be safe, I went inside to ask if I was cleared to go.

"Can I help you?" "I don't think I need to see you, but I want to make sure." "Did you go through x-ray?" "Yes. " "Did they find anything?" "They said I have 2 cavities. " "What? They're not supposed to x-ray you." "It's part of my health insurance plan.'

At which point the CBP officer said "ah. Obamacare. " The whole place busted up.

[Zeos1]

I am looking to book a guest friendly place for the spring. I have noticed almost all the AIRBNB rentals have a strict no prostitution policy. Are these policies heavily enforced? I saw some even warned of a fine and eviction. Is Medellin really cracking down on sex tourism? My last stay I did notice that when checking in a chica / guest that I was kinda getting a dirty look. I never checked in more than one per day. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after looking into so many hotels and rentals that openly state they are not guest friendly, its starting to concern me. If anyone is familiar with the situation and could offer some insight as to how Hotels who allow registered guests view people bringing back working girls, that would be really cool. I just don't want to book a hotel that gets pissed at me for bringing girls back.

Has anyone ever had trouble entering Colombia due to the crackdown on sex tourism? I didn't have trouble entering, but returning to the states the customs guy grilled / interrogated the shit out of me. Is Laurelas or another neighborhood more open to mongers than Poblado?

Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.

[Balboa]

Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.

Man has that place gone down hill!

The quality of the chicas walking the park is looooooow! IMO.

Looks like they opened the gates for every barrio rata to show up.

Really.

I was stunned at the lack of any quality really.

It was a gringo fest as well.

Felt like I was in some US city where they allowed ugly Colombian hookers to walk about.

I think of the many chicas I saw, maybe 5 doable for me, maybe.

True, this is all my opinion, but damn it was nasty, and trannies all over as well.

Sad really.

I remember when the park was full of real Colombianas, not working girls, but hot!

Fun to gaze and possibly chat.

Not anymore.

Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.

On another note.

On a whim, I got into the FB game.

This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.

Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.

I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.

It's a tough life there.

She came over and just punished me! LOL.

Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.

I can see why FB scene has taken off!

Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.

Fun!

Botero was a total winner for me too!

The Vennies Rock!

I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.

They laugh and like it.

Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.

Enjoy guys!