Medellin Reports

[MaddTraveler]

Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

I've got no problem with sending money, but the only real benefit for the sender is the same warm fuzzy feeling you might get from feeding the homeless or any other act of charity. You're not buying loyalty, or real emotion.

So with this comment.

Are some men really sending these SA girls money on a monthly basis? This is absurd and anyone who does this deserves a ban from Colombia, a ban from this forum, have his penis removed and swapped for a vagina. Or replace it with a blank space with a thumbs down tattoo LOL.

Seriously fellas. When you join SA, it does state no PPM (pay per meet) as a way to discourage prostitution on the site as they don't want to get shut down. Hence why most people do Monthly / Weekly allowances. But you can make arrangements without buying into a subscription. A monthly allowance is popular in the states, but most guys who does this see the girl regularly. But overseas fellas, really? Unless you live there and make plan to see her like twice a week, three times a week, then why would you do this and what's the upside? Charity or just cause you can?. Nuff said. Like someone else wrote earlier no wonder why some join this site. The guidance seekers, the leachers, as Simps will always be Simps. I can't get surprised enough on what men do in desperation for affection, in this case fake affection from women who share themselves everywhere, probably kissing you with my sperm still leaking on side of her lips.

[Frank Lucas]

You would think that an owner could dictate who can come and go into an apartment they own. But all buildings have the equivalent of homeowners associations, along with rules that all owners must abide by. And the enforcers of these rules at time's besides the rental agencies are the porteros (guards) in the building. In some buildings there are fines levied against the owners for repeatedly violating the rules such as noise. Colombia is not like the USA when it comes to property, especially apartments.

This is why I decided not to buy in a building in Medellin but bought a house instead. No stupid people or rules to deal with so far.

[Mojo Bandit]

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

I think that sentence says everything that is wrong with the situation. Is anyone really solely motivated to send money to a chica because she needs help? Would they do the same for a chica who was not in the least bit attractive. No I don't thinks so. There is no reality in that ideal. I have nothing against the ideal but no its not happening. There may be guys who see it as a dual motivation, partly motivated by the ideal that she needs help and partially by wanting to fuck her but if she stops fucking him is he still going to give her money?

Bottom line is that unless you met the chica and had some non transactional relationship with her first before the ideal of sending her money, then you are in a relationship with the chica based on money. If you do not spell out to her what your expectations are then you should not have any expectations (and those expectations should be realistic, if you think she is going to stay chaste while you are not around, that is naïve) but expecting her to spend all her time with you while you are in town is reasonable. She is like a timeshare that you make lease payments on.

Anyone who gets involved on any level with a chica that is a prepago and then gets upset at any point down the road that she fucked some other guy is living out Aesop's Fable about the Farmer who revived a freezing viper back to life by sticking it in his coat to warm it, and when the viper got reinvigorated it bit the farmer. Because that is its nature. I am not saying that chicas are snakes, some of them are really sweet, but it is their nature to fuck other guys, and if anyone expects anything else or get their feelings hurt then they have totally misjudged the nature of the situation.

[JjBee62]

Some of you guys have a really, really warped sense of reality. No wonder you you loiter on forums like these haha.

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

Why would you think that entitles you to "lock her up", enslave her to you? Is that how a successful relationship works?

You can go round and FK who you want, so can she. If you have an open relationship, all well and good. If you demand she only has sex when you turn up while you want to screw around. Good luck with that, you will surely get what that unreasonable demand deserves. If you want to marry her and have a monogamous relationship, do the paperwork and make it happen.

Otherwise, just enjoy what you have and don't beat yourself up if you feel like helping someone.

You seem to have completely missed the point.

Helping someone out and being a sugar daddy are 2 completely unrelated things. I help people out all the time, in many different ways, not only by giving them money. There's no expectation of anything in return. I'm helping the person out simply because I want to help them, not because they will like me, or do something to benefit me.

Being a sugar daddy is the act of buying something. You're buying access, a certain type of behavior, certain favors. If the money stops the arrangement stops. If the other person isn't fulfilling their end of the bargain, the money stops, at least in an ideal world. Unfortunately, many guys feel that if they pour more money in, things will somehow improve.

To further confuse things you want to toss in "successful relationship" as a red herring? Normal relationships don't begin with "how much will I have to pay you to fuck me?" Nor do they continue with "how much do you need each month to be willing to keep fucking me?

Imagine this. Imagine paying every month to rent a car that you can have free use of whenever you're in Medellin. Every month you pay the maintenance, insurance and parking for the car. If anything unexpected comes up, you have to pay more. One thing, you don't own the car.

None of this changes the number of days you're able to be in Medellin. None of this guarantees the car will be available when you need it. None of this guarantees it will remain in the same condition you left it. You have no way to control who drives it or when. All you're buying is the hope the car will be available and in good condition each time you return.

You can make whatever rules you want, but you have no way to enforce those rules. However, none of the rules are unreasonable. If you're paying for something, you are certainly entitled to set limits. And you're not obligated to observe those limits. Is your employer required to work the same schedule as you? Is he limited to the same compensation and benefits? Of course not. He's writing the checks, he decides which rules apply to whom.

If someone wants to find a girl in Medellin to marry and settle down with, more power to them. Most are going to eventually learn they made an expensive mistake, but that's their problem.

If someone wants to maintain a sugar baby in Medellin, again, more power to them. The other mongers in Medellin will appreciate their girl having a better phone to send them pictures with, not to mention all the nice lingerie.

If someone wants to send money to help out girls in Medellin, great. I'm sure they all appreciate it.

However, if you are having trouble differentiating between these 3, completely unrelated activities, you probably need to hire someone to slap some sense into you, because trying to go from giving charity, to being a sugar daddy, to being a husband is a guaranteed disaster.

[JustTK]

Some of you guys have a really, really warped sense of reality. No wonder you you loiter on forums like these haha.

If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?

Why would you think that entitles you to "lock her up", enslave her to you? Is that how a successful relationship works?

You can go round and FK who you want, so can she. If you have an open relationship, all well and good. If you demand she only has sex when you turn up while you want to screw around. Good luck with that, you will surely get what that unreasonable demand deserves. If you want to marry her and have a monogamous relationship, do the paperwork and make it happen.

Otherwise, just enjoy what you have and don't beat yourself up if you feel like helping someone.

[MistaDynamite]

Where can I go to get a test before the flight back to the US other than the airport? I saw someone posted https://cendiatra.com/. Are there any others and can I set up an appointment fot them to come to my hotel or AirBnB?

Thanks.

[Surfer500]

Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

Another approach is to put a girl on retainer with the arrangement being that when Daddy is in town, the girl is on call for him the entire time if wanted by Daddy. Of course paying for six months for six days doesn't make sense unless the monthly payment amount is low, and the Daddy is so smitten by the girl that he has no problem paying the money.

The ideal situation might be for a guy who spends more like six months a year in the Country, and has a favorite he want's to help out.

But the Daddy has to be able to accept that when he's away, the girl will do what she's going to do and not be bothered with it.

And the benefit for the sugar daddy is having someone basically on call they like being with when there around.

Not sure if this is a "true" sugar daddy arrangement, but may make sense depending on the parties and the monies involved.

[Wolf662]

......that are boning dirty hookers all day long.....

I don't know who you sleep with but none of the girls I see are in the least bit dirty. LOL.

Ymmv.

[JjBee62]

Depending on the girl, one "daddy" can be described to another daddy as "sick child or other relative", "college class", "hair salon appointment" or whatever else she senses will keep the mailbox money flowing.

Sometimes I think I'm too cynical. Other times I realize there's no such thing.

[JjBee62]

I still have her on Instagram and both of her accounts on Facebook. I haven't paid attention but can't remember ever seeing a picture of her with a gringo.

He is probably one of many sugar daddies or she is at least still working behind her sugar daddy's back.

When I met her mum it did make me think of many beautiful, disgusting scenarios.

I just recently spent over 3 days with 3 of 4 different girls (which ones were with me varied). We went to 3 different places that provided a lot of photo opportunities. A lot of pictures were taken, including a lot of pictures of me. Not one single picture of me ended up in any of their Facebook or Instagram posts. No mention, no tags, nothing, which is exactly what I expected.

We're just the ones who provide them the opportunity to take all those great photos, but that's as far as our usefulness goes.

[JjBee62]

A smart sugar daddy would not have an arrangement. A smart sugar daddy would have a key to the place he is paying for or helping with the bills. A smart sugar daddy would never announce when he is showing up. I am not a sugar daddy, but Iive by 1 and 3. There is no way I would be a sugar daddy without having a key to the place my money was going.

Having a key isn't much help. Whoever is living there will still bring whoever they want, in and out, at will. And at any point, everything you've bought is liable to disappear, along with the girl.

Been through that with a wife. I was gone literally all the time. She did whatever she wanted, came and went, spent the money I was earning and wasn't much I could do about it. When she'd gotten all she could, she loaded up everything she wanted in a you-Haul and left a note on the counter with the phone number of the lawyer who had the divorce papers. I learned about it through email.

Paying for something you don't have direct control of means you're just a bystander to whatever happens.

[Blakman]

Now that's dropping some real knowledge on the totally clueless! Force me to post.

Depending on the girl, one "daddy" can be described to another daddy as "sick child or other relative", "college class", "hair salon appointment" or whatever else she senses will keep the mailbox money flowing.

[BootyBandit84]

Have things changed for the better or something? I've never stayed there, but friends do. And my god seriously f that place. My friends were getting ready (3 of them all staying there) and I wanted to go up to one of their rooms to wait 10 minutes. Photocopy of my passport wasn't enough, full color photo of my passport e-mail PLUS my US drivers' license wasn't enough. I wasn't allowed in the fucking building! I have had my passport stolen before, there is no way I'm casually carrying in my pocket for a 6 month stay in Colombia.

I can't even believe it is legal that you can own property & some 3rd party can arbitrarily restrict egress and ingress to your home (one of my contacts owns there, other guys rented just 1 week).

I have stayed there a couple times now and I really liked the area, rooms and staff. I have only rented though. They only ask me for the passport during check in and I certainly don't carry my passport out side the apartment. They do ask for ID for guest coming in passport or cedula, but has to be the real thing no photo copies. I can see how this would be annoying if you owned one of the units and you couldn't bring a guest in.

[JjBee62]

Maybe some of the sugar daddies amongst us can weigh in on this. If a guy is sending a Chica every month or week, or whatever it is, what happens if a girl has more than one sugar daddy, and two or more of the sugar daddies are in town at the same time. I would think a "smart" sugar daddy would have an arrangement, at least I would, that when daddy is in town, the girl is only with daddy, not with other daddies.

But maybe I'm missing something here?

Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

I've got no problem with sending money, but the only real benefit for the sender is the same warm fuzzy feeling you might get from feeding the homeless or any other act of charity. You're not buying loyalty, or real emotion.

[Surfer500]

Yes. You're afflicted with Dunning Kruger Syndrome, which means you're just a tad shy of the cognitive level necessary to resolve your current conundrum..

This sounds like a very serious malady I am afflicted with. Maybe I need a frontal lobotomy to be a sugar daddy! LOL.