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[Surfer500]

It's not about if you pay up front or not. It's about losing leverage if you try to negotiate after you already pay for the room. It just a simple example and I am not saying it happens often. It takes a few seconds outside vs a few minutes in the room and the possible drama.

There is another reason why BBFS is not negotiated outside the room by some guys which I don't think has been touched upon as of yet.

For some guy's it's how they monger, it's how they operate, or their technique of mongering after identifying a girl to see what unfolds in the room.

And sometimes there are some unexpected and welcome surprises that both you and Gabacho have encountered.

I personally like seeing what transpires in the room with the girl, yet make it clear that the BJ will be uncovered, and leave it at that.

And I, like both you and Gabacho have had some uncovered FS experiences that I hadn't expected which was a surprise.

The last time this happened I was told 30 K by a small Colombian spinner. I asked if the BJ was uncovered and was told of course which is a good sign.

And once in the room I laid a condom out, yet when it was time to ride me, she just hopped on board to my surprise with no mention of the condom.

I was a bit nervous about it, but my little head said yes so I had to comply. LOL.

So pinning down all the details and costs for BBFS beforehand is not how some mongers roll, where as for others it's mandatory.

[RemotePC]

Hi All,

Just got my subscription and I would like to build a facebook list as I am traveling in Dec. I have read several pages on how to add girls, can anyone please PM me an initial list which I can use to to find more girls. Again thanks for the information you are providing in this thread.

[ProPooper98]

Hey guys,

Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.

Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks!

[Nounce]

Mostly look I guess. If you know any agency (or a fixer) that also vouch for good service let me know please.

This is your answer. Others that commonly mentioned here are La Isla and Fase Dos that are strip clubs with room on site.

I suggest Loutron which is up in the hills outside of Poblado and Energy Spa which is in Laureles near the stadium. They tend to have the better looking women by conventional Paisa standards.

[Nounce]

Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. ....

It's not about if you pay up front or not. It's about losing leverage if you try to negotiate after you already pay for the room. It just a simple example and I am not saying it happens often. It takes a few seconds outside vs a few minutes in the room and the possible drama.

I had a new girl came to my place. She asked for condom but I said your agent said you provide oral natural. She said no, and I have to pull out the messages to convince her.

...A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsel...

I have been wondering why were you getting a CBJ and I guessed that was a test drive or sacrifice fly with a another visit planned that is when you get BBFS. If that is the case, your approach is more complicated than you described but that is a smart way to optimize cost. Your percentage needs to be adjusted to account for it.

[Nounce]

... So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?....

Like others have mentioned that is not a problem. Just pull her aside so your conversation won't be overheard by her friends. You are fluent in Spanish, you should not have any problem like many of us might have 😂.

[JustTK]

During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour

Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.

No problem at all. Plenty are bi -sexual and have done that type of thing many times. I guess you'd need to ask the Mama, if you don't know the girls beforehand.

[LoveItHere69]

Ok let's say everyone else is right and I'm wrong.

Every girl that would say yes in the street will still say yes in the room. There are going to be some that say no in the street but will say yes in the room. So if the girl would have said yes to begin with what is the difference? And if it was a girl that would have been ashamed to say yes in the street but would say yes en la pieza then you would have missed your opportunity with that girl, entonces usted me diga, que va a perder?

Here is a screen shot of a chica I barebacked with yesterday specifically telling me not to mention what we did yesterday to her friend. So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?

But you know what I'm done wasting my time, you go ahead and do it your way and I'll do it my way. There is no wrong way to monger.

I agree that the condom no condom can change once in the room once she is away from her friends and she can see you are clean. My argument was to get the pay first pay after agreed before even going to the hotel and especially before entering the room. Once in the room some girls demand payment first and if you try to walk out she may cause a scene. Yes I have had it happen. She changed the rules once in the room.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Just to add to this, pretty much every sw at botero / veracruz will DATY / BBBJ /69 if you offer 20-25 k more. Especially vennies in front or on the side of the museum. I usually wait till I'm in the room to ask. Start at 10 k though, and make sure they shower first lmao.

9/10 will have a musty coochie from standing in the sun all day (I know some of you are into that).

[Surfer500]

I have a naughty thought in my head. Please tell me whether this or pigs will fly.

During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and tell them that I will pay for an hour but the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour with me just observing and not partaking.

Cackle.

Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.

Any comments?

I don't know about casa's but I've been approached by a few pair of girls in Centro who wanted to do a trio, but never pursued it.

Your best bet will be to find a pair of lesbians, as it's one thing for a guy to take two girls too the room and bang them both versus two girls doing one another. And there are pairs of girls in Centro who will provide what your looking for, but this is another case of you better have some good Spanish speaking skills on this one, more so than for BBFS as there could easily be some misunderstandings.

There are guy's doing exactly what you want to do and some of them rave about it.

[Knowledge]

Apart from imposing physicality or linguistic expertise, payment after service is the leading practice and generally accepted principle. My advice to guys who get requests for upfront payment is to walk away and choose one of the majority of providers who accept it after the fact. If you are in a casa or mileroticos casa type setting, payment up front is more acceptable and less risky.

Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know. And if she absolutely won't agree on BBFS then it will be a normal session for the original amount agreed upon before entering the room. Like I said my success rate is about 75% for me when using this method. There are always going to be stubborn ones that won't agree to BBFS no matter what and in that case it will be CFS. That doesn't necessarily mean it will be a bad session. A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsell.

[Plan77]

I have a naughty thought in my head. Please tell me whether this or pigs will fly.

During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and tell them that I will pay for an hour but the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour with me just observing and not partaking.

Cackle.

Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.

Any comments?

[Knowledge]

That is right, and that is why I recommend you ask the girl that interests you to step away for a private conversation.

A lot of the time they stand in groups in the stairways of the hotels and even in Plaza Botero they are usually in groups of 2 or 3.

[Gabacho]

You frame the bet toward your advantage. I call that rolling the dice.
You framed it differently here. That is why some of us thought you were joking.
If the girl wants to be paid first after in the room, she could just walk out when you tried to negotiate with her.

I had BBFS with the last Centro girl that I went with recently without negotiation or upsell. LOL.

Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know. And if she absolutely won't agree on BBFS then it will be a normal session for the original amount agreed upon before entering the room. Like I said my success rate is about 75% for me when using this method. There are always going to be stubborn ones that won't agree to BBFS no matter what and in that case it will be CFS. That doesn't necessarily mean it will be a bad session. A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsell.

[Nounce]

You frame the bet toward your advantage. I call that rolling the dice.

I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.

You framed it differently here. That is why some of us thought you were joking.

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5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.....

If the girl wants to be paid first after in the room, she could just walk out when you tried to negotiate with her.

I had BBFS with the last Centro girl that I went with recently without negotiation or upsell. LOL.