Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

Has anyone got any information on the tinto girls on Plaza Berrio? There was some speculation that some were doubling as prepagos, but I never heard much in regard to anyone having luck with one. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thoughts no, but facts yes.

A large group of the tinto girls congregate on the stair landing midway up to the Parque Berrio Metro Station. Almost seems like headquarters for them but they are all over the place. To be successful in pulling one you need to have Spanish speaking skills, if you don't, good luck.

How I have approached this in the past is if I see a Tinto girl I would consider doing, I walk up to them, buy a coffee and start talking to them, joke around a bit, and see how they respond, if they are interested in speaking with you take the discussion a little further and perhaps tell them your available and at that point they will let you know if going to the room with them is on the menu.

Keep in mind that on a good day these girls will make 20,000 COP selling coffee, and the first Tinto girl I went with after chit chatting told me 20 K and she was okay looking. You have to keep in mind that the Tinto girls are not like most of the other girls standing around selling their bodies, so it can be very different with them. If they have an opportunity to make 20 K or more for an hour's work some of them will go for it. However I have to stress again that you better speak some Spanish and have some game, because selling coffee is their primary source of income versus going to the room.

Now the candy girls, well that's a whole other ballgame.

Hopefully this will help in your quest to do a tinto girl.

[Surfer500]

Has anyone got any information on the tinto girls on Plaza Berrio? There was some speculation that some were doubling as prepagos, but I never heard much in regard to anyone having luck with one. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thoughts no, but facts yes. A large group of the tinto girls congregate on the stair landing midway up to the Parque Berrio Metro Station. Almost seems like headquarters for them but they are all over the place. To be successful in puliing one you need to have Spanish speaking skills, if you don't good luck.

How I have approached this in the past is if I see a Tinto girl I would consider doing, I walk up to them, buy a coffee and start talking to them, joke around a bit, and see how they respond, if they are interested in speaking with you, take the discussion a little further and perhaps tell them your available and at that point they will let you know if going to the room with them is on the menu.

Keep in mind that on a good day these girls will make 20,000 COP selling coffee, and the first Tinto girl I went with after chit chatting told me 20 K and she was okay looking. You have to keep in mind that the Tinto girls are not like most of the other girls standing around selling their bodies, so it can be very different with them. If they have an opportunity to make 20 K or more for an hour's work some of them will go for it. However I have to stress again that you better speak some Spanish and have some game, because selling coffee is their primary source of income versus going to the room. And most of them don't go to the room or they wouldn't be selling coffee.

Now the candy girls, well that's a whole other ballgame.

[MarquisdeSade1]

This was a great, thoughtful response- you write with intelligence- thanks.

As GringoItaliano has mentioned, the pervasive culture of CBJ in the F2 F options is a stumbling block. I've pretty much been pulling from LLeras for the past few weeks- which has absolutely been yielding fruit as far as securing BBBJ and CIM at a reasonable price, but the Lleras talent pool is limited and you're not going to find great service in the providers even if you ostensibly "get what you want". At this point I think I've fucked all 7 girls that are regulars there that I like (a couple 3, 4, 5 times) and have just run out of juice.

You make some great points as well about Facebook- the implication being that you have to put in time and work to make it an effective tool.

Here's the thing- personally I don't want to put in time or work- I do that in my real life where I bust my ass off to generate time and money for my trips. On my own time, I want to pay money to a provider and get laid. I don't want to pine away at a computer screen trying desperately to lure a SW into my web of desperation.

Medellin is not for everyone so if its not for you- chill the F out and allow the people that like it to enjoy it! I'm totally down with that and I won't whine and winge on here any further.

You're just asking what's with all they hype?

I don't see what's wrong with discussing the pros and cons of a city.

For those that have not made the choice yet, I see it as a great service to them.

Why make anyone with "any" interest fly there and use vacation time from work only to find it blows?

Let them read the debate and decide, maybe they can do more research and find a better fit elsewhere instead.

Stifling debate is never a good thing, if the forum serves any purpose shouldn't it provide that debate? Instead endless posts full of bullshit blurred face photos and (as opposed to letting the cheerleaders promote it 24/7).

[MarquisdeSade1]

As far as a midget working Parque Bolvar I rarely go there, and have yet to see a working midget in El Centro, and I'm not talking about a dinky spinner, however there was a midget in Cucuta working I saw a few years back.

I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same puta, you called her a midget so I did.

I toured plaza Botero a couple times and saw her there also, But spent more time walking around the casas and would go to Qbano for lunch across from Parque bolivar and would see her there.

Both are pretty bizarre scenes, one day walking past the bike rentals in Botero I look to my left 10 meters and some tranny was squatting and wiping his ass on the edge of the grass, at like high noon no less.

I walk a bit further by the church, what looked like a homeless guy, was standing maybe 20 feet behind 2 moto cops on their bike.

Pissing straight up into the air, for what seemed like 10 minutes LOL.

I should of videoed it.

Yes, it can be an entertaining scene.

[Member #4729]

In Medellin there are the casas and strip clubs. The girls are right there. You just pick one and go fuck. The street girls are right there. Just pick one and go fuck. The girls in Gusto and the Mansion, you guessed it. If the Facebook thing isn't working for you, why sit and complain? Hop in a taxi and go fuck It's not as if Facebook is the only option.

I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but you have no value in Medellin until you establish your value That's just the nature of the beast.

There are hundreds, possibly thousands of guys reading this board every day, who have no intention of ever visiting Medellin. However, they do want to talk to the girls. Every girl on Facebook in Medellin gets messages from guys that are pure bullshit. Guys trying to get pictures, guys setting up fake dates, guys insulting them or threatening them. As a new guy you have no credibility. Your Facebook page probably has very little content and nobody can recommend you..

This was a great, thoughtful response- you write with intelligence- thanks.

As GringoItaliano has mentioned, the pervasive culture of CBJ in the F2 F options is a stumbling block. I've pretty much been pulling from LLeras for the past few weeks- which has absolutely been yielding fruit as far as securing BBBJ and CIM at a reasonable price, but the Lleras talent pool is limited and you're not going to find great service in the providers even if you ostensibly "get what you want". At this point I think I've fucked all 7 girls that are regulars there that I like (a couple 3, 4, 5 times) and have just run out of juice.

You make some great points as well about Facebook- the implication being that you have to put in time and work to make it an effective tool.

Here's the thing- personally I don't want to put in time or work- I do that in my real life where I bust my ass off to generate time and money for my trips. On my own time, I want to pay money to a provider and get laid. I don't want to pine away at a computer screen trying desperately to lure a SW into my web of desperation.

Here's how it should work IMO: man makes money, man choses woman, man pays woman, man fucks woman.

No "establishing reputation", no including pictures of known landscapes, no realistic looking profile-etc etc. I didn't need to do any of that junk in Pattaya, Bangkok, Angles City, Subic, to have amazing BBFS with hot spinners every day of the week.

Ultimately we concur, and indeed there seems to be an emergent consensus here: Medellin is not for everyone so if its not for you- chill the F out and allow the people that like it to enjoy it! I'm totally down with that and I won't whine and winge on here any further. Promise.

When SEA is back as a realistic destination, you boys know where I will be!

[Nil Admirari]

I dislike casas because of the lack of opportunities to screen girls before selection for chemistry and for openness to BBBJ, which is a critical requirement for me.

As I've posted a couple of times in the past, at the Medellin casas, after choosing a girl from the line-up, I always ask (and have never been refused) to speak with the chica in private before I commit to paying up and heading to a room with her. In some places (Fantasia Energia; Eros Spa) the chat takes place in a private space; in others in the quietest corner of the reception area. A long enough chat to get at least some feel for chemistry, and always enough to clarify the availability of BBBJ and DFK).

[Nounce]

That's an interesting idea. I did not make a post of FB, I was worry that too many people would bother me and I added a bunch of people on FB that I had no interest to go out with.

It is to help with your original question. If the girl contacts you, then maybe she is trying to go out with you. You can just not reply to anyone who you have no interest in going out with.

Also lots of them has close friend list too, so no way to know if they have gringo friends.

Have you checked the who "liked" or replied to their posts?

[Nounce]

Has anyone got any information on the tinto girls on Plaza Berrio?

You will find some posts if you search for algo mas. Surfer has a post that he hooked up with one not long ago.

[MiamiSammy]

My worst experience for being dogged by vendors was in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, also known as Saigon. I swear to gawd they would even call other vendors on the street ahead of me and give them advance notice. They would say shite like, "You bought from her, why you no buy from me? Unbelievable. As always, stay respectful, keep your cool, don't do anything that makes them lose face. Much the same as the hawkers on the street in Medellin, if you give them a nod or a friendly smile, it goes a long way. Don't give them dirty looks. Don't be an Ugly American. For the restaurant ones, memorize, "Acabo de comer" or "I just ate" and pat your stomach, and they will give you back a genuine smile of acknowledgement and then leave you alone. You should realize, if you look and are dressed like a Gringo, and especially if you have a girl with you, the street hawkers will see you coming before you see them. You are USDA Prime Choice.

Have you been to Pattaya, Cancun or Cabo San Luca? They stick on you like leeches.

[MiamiSammy]

Has anyone got any information on the tinto girls on Plaza Berrio? There was some speculation that some were doubling as prepagos, but I never heard much in regard to anyone having luck with one. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[JjBee62]

One of the things I am still confuse about facebook is which one of the girls to approach. I did the add contact, go through their friend list, find other people to add for weeks now and I have about 400+ contact. I also read from the forum, the one showing money, devil horns are usually available. However there are tons with just pictures of themselves and it just seem impossible for me to tell. I tried messaging them before my last trip, and some ignore, which I just take it as they know what's going on and is not interested, but some answer 3 or 4 days later. I was also assume the ones that said in a relationship, married etc is not available, but the girl I pull from Parque Lleras added me on facebook, and it said married and their are tons of picture of her and who I assume is her husband.

You approach any of them that you are interested in. Use some diplomacy.

You greet them, compliment them, tell them when you will be in Medellin and tell them you want to see them.

[JjBee62]

IMO it is, will I return to Colombia? Maybe? I just cancelled my flight for next week due to some important work and family issues.

I liked MDE but when I was there I was looking around thinking, this really doesn't seem like the same place I read about.

When other places open up, I can't wait to visit them.

When I read posts I try to filter them for sweet lemons / sour grapes bias.

I can't speak for many but I think the proximity to the USA is a big draw, beyond that I won't speculate.

I found the weather in MDE to be very overrated, the city as well, it is such a small city, I seriously doubt I could ever spend more than a week or 2 there.

Nevermind living there.

I need 10 20 30 or even 40 million people not tiny ass MDE.

You're from Chicago and the weather in Medellin is overrated? It has 2 seasons. Either it rains some everyday, although rarely all day, and the temperature is between 58-82°, or it doesn't rain for 8 weeks and the temperature is between 60-88°, with low humidity and a nice breeze nearly every afternoon.

Sometimes the storms are severe, which is a good time to be sitting on the balcony with a nice chica.

Having stood on hot asphalt, with temperature and humidity at 95, and trudged through snow with wind chills at -40° in Chicago, I'll take Medellin weather.

[JjBee62]

Thanks. This was a very interesting, thorough and analytic report- the verbiage was similar to the deliverables from a professional consultancy firm. I wonder what your career is.

My question is: why- given all the trouble with online methodologies- do you revert to them? There is a way to avoid flaking and catfishing- pull from Lleras, Gustos, Fase Dose, the Casa's, etc. The girls are there- observable and available to interact. You know what you are going to get physically and in terms of service.

In a way this is a general question to all the Medellin lovers as well. I don't really see how this scene can be considered superlative when so much of it is based on bird-dogging insta, tinder, SA, facebook etc, and setting yourself up for disappointment, flakery, catfishing, etc. That seems like all I've been reading about here lately. Bottom line- too much time and mental energy is wasted in the procurement process. And as you say- flaking is not simply a cultural feature- it's just blatant disrespect. I cannot engage in transactions where my value is consistently dis-regarded...

Somewhere, in one of my closets, I have an old pair of Red Wing boots, size 11.5. Those boots feel great on my feet. Do you think they will fit everyone else as well as they fit me? Not every mongering destination fits everyone the same. If Medellin isn't a good fit, don't waste your time trying to figure out why other people like it. Go where you are happier.

However:

In Medellin there are the casas and strip clubs. The girls are right there. You just pick one and go fuck. The street girls are right there. Just pick one and go fuck. The girls in Gusto and the Mansion, you guessed it. If the Facebook thing isn't working for you, why sit and complain? Hop in a taxi and go fuck It's not as if Facebook is the only option.

I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but you have no value in Medellin until you establish your value That's just the nature of the beast.

There are hundreds, possibly thousands of guys reading this board every day, who have no intention of ever visiting Medellin. However, they do want to talk to the girls. Every girl on Facebook in Medellin gets messages from guys that are pure bullshit. Guys trying to get pictures, guys setting up fake dates, guys insulting them or threatening them. As a new guy you have no credibility. Your Facebook page probably has very little content and nobody can recommend you.

This has been mentioned before. Just as the mongers share information about the girls, the girls share information about us. Until some of the girls get to know you, you're still an unknown risk.

There are ways to establish a reputation, which greatly reduces the issues. The first way is to get another monger to recommend you. If that's not an option, make your Facebook more active. My mongering Facebook, as several can attest, is the same Facebook I use for family and friends. There's no question that I'm a real person. This isn't an option for most people. However, by posting photos and tagging your location in Medellin, you will get a lot more responses. Anyone can send a message, but a picture of a well known landmark goes a long way towards establishing credibility.

To close, nothing makes Medellin superlative. It's got an excellent climate, it's inexpensive, the people are friendly, but it's not going to fit everyone.

[GringoItaliano]

Thanks. This was a very interesting, thorough and analytic report- the verbiage was similar to the deliverables from a professional consultancy firm. I wonder what your career is.

My question is: why- given all the trouble with online methodologies- do you revert to them? There is a way to avoid flaking and catfishing- pull from Lleras, Gustos, Fase Dose, the Casa's, etc. The girls are there- observable and available to interact. You know what you are going to get physically and in terms of service.

In a way this is a general question to all the Medellin lovers as well. I don't really see how this scene can be considered superlative when so much of it is based on bird-dogging insta, tinder, SA, facebook etc, and setting yourself up for disappointment, flakery, catfishing, etc. That seems like all I've been reading about here lately. Bottom line- too much time and mental energy is wasted in the procurement process. And as you say- flaking is not simply a cultural feature- it's just blatant disrespect. I cannot engage in transactions where my value is consistently dis-regarded..

Yes, your guess about my employment history is not far from the mark.

To answer your question. Yes, the factors that you mention are significant downsides to Internet pipelining, and they are one of the main reasons that I have not returned to Medellin more frequently than I have over the past five years. I have a strong preference for in-person mongering for all of the reasons that you described. But Facebook in Medellin clearly offers the best combination and balance of talent, service, and pricing of the various options in Medellin, despite the numerous flaws of Facebook pipelining that you correctly identified. The main considerations for me are the GFE aspect of the service and BBBJ, both of which can be hard to find in the many other in-person mongering options outside Medellin, such as the casas and the strip clubs. CBJ is generally a show-stopper for me, so those options do not work well for me.

So then you might ask, why go to Medellin at all then? Well, for the time being at least, there are not that many other places to go due to travel and public health restrictions. If I could go anywhere in the world right now to monger, I would go to Pattaya or the FKKs of Frankfurt, but those are probably not feasible for now. Colombia is only a few hours flight away from me and has few restrictions in place right now. And, as I mentioned in my report, this latest experience with a more pronounced version of Internet pipelining's numerous downsides will probably shift the balance of time that I spend in Colombia away from Medellin and toward Bogota, where I can monger in person in the Santa Fe red light district.

[ColombiaLover]

I have been to Cartagena several times. With family, with chicas, and by myself. While I love the Old City, I've pretty much soured on the rest of it. The beach is nothing to me, because I live in Florida and have better sand and cleaner water. And I can't stand the touts who will not give up. Even if you have your eyes closed or your hat over you head. They will wake you up. I especially hate the massage ladies. When I am there, I am more likely to stick to the hotel pool during the day and enjoy the Old CIty at night when it's cooler. But I'm not in any hurry to return there.

I rarely have issues with touts in Medellin. Now if I was in centro all of the time, I imagine it might be different. When I do get approached by someone in Laureles, a quick "no gracias" does the trick. Never had anyone follow me. My only annoyance is in Poblado. Especially near the Parque. Seems like everyone is selling something or begging for money. It gets old. Some will go away with a "no gracias" but some are very persistent. I used to enjoy sitting at a table by the side walk at Beer Company and watching the action. But now I am more likely to sit in the middle to avoid the pests. Although some restaurants seem to have no problem allowing these touts to walk right in and solicit you at your table, which I find very annoying.

It was a huge problem in Cartagena, crazy amount of vendor who tries to grub me. It was much better in Medellin, there are still vendor but I haven't had anyone who followed me for a few blocks. Its usually ask twice then walk away.