Medellin Reports

[Vegas Jeff]

Tall dark and handsome? Nope! But I'm 2/3 and that's the hand I'm dealt and the one I need play. Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

Do the best with what you have and hope for the best. If you fail take a hard look as to why and try again. Stay up, stay strong. Keep it real.

Solid post. Effort counts guys! Do the little things to show the girls that you respect them. Maybe spend $2 for a girl who needs something at the pharmacy or buy her a favorite snack. If you don't respect money they won't respect you.

Make girls comfortable and they will stay longer and let their guards down more. Spend some time finding girls that meet your needs and repeat your favorites! This is especially true for guys with longer trips. I enjoy my repeats in Medellin much more than in other places. Although Paisas make me want to strangle them, I for some reason can stand having them around more than in other places. Medellin will be home to me for awhile to come.

Good luck and Happy Holidays to All. See some of you guys in about a month.

[SlamCity7777]

Kate Upton isn't with the richest man in the world either, although I'm sure she could be with a Saudi billionaire prince if she wanted. And that example is kind of over the top since she isn't a normal woman. Of course a hot model with be with a successful guy. Sofia Vergara isn't with that rich of a man, not very successful in terms of Hollywood or business. And she could have her pick of more successful, richer men. Now, do the prepagos do it for the money? Of course, but I think the majority of women in the world are with a man because of other things other than money. Just look at the everyday hot paisas you see walking around Medellin with their boyfriends. Most of these guys, even if they are a doctor are making very low wages compared to gringos. But I don't care if a gringo throws $100,000 a year at any of these girls, they aren't going to leave their paisa boyfriends. If it was all about money, these everyday hot paisas would be lined up outside of The Mansion like groupies or overrunning Parque Llleras to hook up with one of us "rich gringos". Is there a reason why this isn't happening if money is such a factor? I guess no one here has come in contact with these type of Colombian women (just prepagos) but I have in order to know what's really important to them..

I got mad love and respect for Vegas and you. Both bring a lot to the board. But you're argument is flawed as if your view of my posts. Clearly obvious it's from the monger / prepago standpoint. This is a monger and hooker message board bro! And my argument holds water in the real world as well. The answer to pretty much every one of life's problems comes down to Money, Sex, and Power (drugs can be the third, like how "why" can sometimes be a vowels) Health issues being the major exception.

Kate Upton is dating Justin Verlander. 100 millon USD contract. Also 6'5" Sofia Vergara is with a successful actor who is 8 years younger who is also 6'5" he's worth millions too. Both guys are handsome (always a plus) successful in their respective fields, and worth millions. Tall, rich, and handsome. Your argument is actually supporting my argument and actual strengthens the "Young guys" camp vs the "I'm old but still get laid" guys.

Why are these Bario girls with their bario novios? Because they want to be with them for the reasons I stated before. Attention and affection! Money and security comes from the gringos. Also if you can't pass a Spanish 300 level class you're novia is not with you for you because you can't talk to her on her level like Juan or Hector from the block. Juan and Carlos are prob 10+ years younger then most guys on this board so once factored into the equation there is another point for the "young guys" camp.

VJ and I both have Novias that are normal girls do it does happen. But do you think his girl or my girl makes more money than we do? Do you when VJ takes his girl to Cancun she paying? Not calling him or his lady our. Or my girl. Just saying in "real" relationships money is always a factor. Always!

Lined up at the mansion looking for "us rich gringos" hahahah! Bro if you ask any of these girls and get them to be comfortable with you and speak truthfully (as a paisa can be) a bunch and I dare to say most of the girls hate going to the M as we hate going to some crappy office job! They don't like those dudes! The "150 mil or less guys" they don't they tolerate the cheap charlies. What else they going to do? Work at Exito? Real talk. If a girl flakes on you and you're at the Mansion it's because she got a better offer from a guy she'd rather fuck than you who probably is paying a little bit more. Money is always a factor! Always!

Some girls in the US date losers with no money because they like to feel needed and he's probably a combo of a bad boy or a pretty boy. That dynamic don't fly in Colombia because of how hard it is to earn a living in Colombia. Everybody is a hanger on and needy so that trick don't fly in Colombia.

Thank you for all the props to the guys who quoted my previously long ass posts! (Y).

I'm going to try to leave this a lone after this one. In summation of my position. All girls! Either the Girls are Real Fake Pro Civy Foreign or Domestic. The best way to get laid all the time is to Be young, handsome, funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you are past the young stage. Be handsome, funny, cool, nice, have money. If you were never handsome. Be funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you handsome then then you got the world by the balls so fuck why you wasting time on ISG? Hahahaha Think about it. Would you want to be with a negative, uptight, cheap ugly person (romantic or friendship) same shit applies to women.

For gods sake learn to speak Spanish to at least a 200 college level!

Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

By the way. I'm 5'5", mid 30's very youthful (all my hair and it's mostly black still. With some help! LOL) looking, so still young (44- young 45+ old) I speak excellent Spanish, smart, funny, nice, and have a positive attitude and I'm a good looking dude. No bragging just being real about it. I have had MANY non pro novias in Argentina, Peru, Mexico, USA, all the places I've lived and still have a novia normal who I love a ton but still need a side dish every once in a while. I have gotten laid in my 20's most when I learned how to use the tools I had.

Tall dark and handsome? Nope! But I'm 2/3 and that's the hand I'm dealt and the one I need play. Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

Do the best with what you have and hope for the best. If you fail take a hard look as to why and try again. Stay up, stay strong. Keep it real.

[Vegas Jeff]

Some are under 25 some a tad older. The great thing about Colombian women is, they maintain friendships even if they eventually get a boyfriend, get married, and even have children. None of these have ever stopped them from wanting to maintain contact with me and even sleep with me. As I mentioned in my post, not many can do this. Guess I'm the exception. As I mentioned in previous posts, in Colombia anything is possible, there are no limitations, at least not for me.

I hear you. But unfortunately paying pros every time I have sex is an sustainable lifestyle for me. Wish I had the funds but I don't. I guess I could just get laid on the weekends but that doesn't appeal to me either. So I'm forced to take on non pros. Much more time an energy put into the relationship compared to pros. I guess you could call it working retirement. Jajaja.

So Vegas Jeff, I respect what you write, but it comes from the monger / prepago standpoint, not the real world. I really don't want to hear about what happened on a "Two and a half men" episode, since that particular one quoted was written by that loser Charlie Sheen. It might be how his world works, but not how the real world works. The prepagos go back to their barrio boyfriends because they love them and would never leave them for a gringo john. Guys need to keep in mind that these are just business relationships. The 5' 5" guy with the big bankroll isn't going to keep the hot girl for very long.

Nino,

For two locals with some personality and game, I will take a stroll with you a little longer.

For you guys reading from abroad there are some guys in Nino Bravo's position. I have met with some and chatted it up with them. Guys in their mid 20's thru 40. Decent looking, plenty of natural charisma to connect with all ranges and classes of girls. An ability to get the girls out of their clothes. This is not a personal profile, as I don't know you, but just suggesting a possible person that girls would have natural inclinations towards.

I have twice walked into The Apartment Medellin while some suave, young guy was on a rant complaining about the local girls. Rich, John Duque, or Andrea would notice me enter and bite their tongues as I sat down in the back. After the guy finished they would ask what I thought. I then brought these guys down a notch. These guys have strange rules like not paying for taxis or such normally. They reference girls from cities where the girls have more money and better educations. They complain how they have to do this or do that and how it was easier and better somewhere else. Most guys don't get that locals feed them bullshit all day long and money talks. The guys dating nonpros don't get that taxi money and some food at KFC is what sets you apart. Most guys who are in this position are not doing better than skillful mongers IMSO. The regular girls are average and the hookers are awesome. This is why many with skill and experience choose hookers IMO.

Why do they go back to their boyfriends? IMO it is because the relationship shifts from enhancement to tolerance and the smart mongers send them packing. It is like grandparents sending the grandchildren back to the parents. By the way, not all hookers have boyfriends. Many of them are close to their mothers without men in their lives.

Guys that are in Nino's position IMSO are not in a better position than efficient mongers who use money. I am talking about guys who can get respect from the hookers. Cali Hentai's post is one that I can understand and respect. I am not even sure what your angle is. Don't forget that this is a monger board. Maybe give some suggestion that the readers can relate to. Your whole argument says, "If you didn't have money you couldn't do what I do. " Well I do have money so it doesn't matter. Even if I could find the right distance with nonpros I would still take the hookers. The fact that money is involved does not lessen the situation. It enhances it. I am in control of the date in ways that would be much more difficult with regular girls. Do I stand behind their boyfriends? No sir. I have hung out with their boyfriends. Many girls will talk with me on the phone while their boyfriends are right next to them on the couch. For others it is more secretive.

So these are just business relationships eh? In one sense yes. In another sense it goes beyond this. How do you explain why girls pick up the phone when I call them? I have had local friends who have tried calling a girl many times. They then ask me to call her and she picks up the phone. Is this all about the money? Maybe they respect me as someone who gets it and isn't a hassle in their lives. Sometimes maybe I know the girl a little better. I never punish girls for answering the phone. I make them comfortable in telling me the truth. If they are busy I wish them luck with their dates and tell them I will talk with them another time. With every single girl I know I have had a talk or two with them and during those talks I gained their respect. Whether it is talking with a hooker or hanging out with my girlfriend and her kids it doesn't take much for me. Usually just a look and sometimes a few words is all that is needed to keep the ship sailing straight. This is the game that needs to concentrated on, not all this other nonsense.

I hope my rambles don't come across as arrogant. I hope they come across as a defense to the ordinary guy and the potential that each person has. Just telling it like it is, or at least how I see it. I am just following in the footsteps of the kings, pharaohs, emperors, drug lords, etc that came before me. I am glad that I don't have to face the burden that Tiger Woods has to face for my decisions. Like I said the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Nino, I will give you the last word if you want it. Sorry to sidetrack the thread. I hope someone gains something from my posts.

Adios

[SavePros321]

And in case you didn't know, Janet Jackson married a billionaire from Qatar. Do you find anything funny or outrageous about that?

Yeah, but Janet Jackson's body is not built like a box either. My refrigerator has more curves than Kate Upton! She has got to be the most overrated super model in history. She's only hot because American entertainment media (run mostly by homosexuals and metrosexuals) tells you she is hot.

[NCal2014]

Awesome idea! I like what you are saying. What kinda gifts if you don't mind me asking? My homie did something similar to this in Brazil and cleaned up. Lots of little stuff from the states. Give me some good gift ideas!

Yeah for sure. Basically nothing I bought was more than $12 usd. Here are some ideas. They love Victoria Secret stuff. You can get lotions and mists for $5 ea. Or underwear for $5 each. Most girls are small or med size at most.

Another idea is going to American eagle or Aeropostle. There you can find a lot of clearance stuff for $3-8 usd. Get to know them online. First. They will give you ideas. Don't spend more that say $25 on 1 gift on a girl you don't know. She may not like it and not care you even took the time to buy something. A lot of small gifts always does the trick. You can PM if you need more help.

[Nino Bravo]

A Saudi billionaire prince, LOL? Who says this broad is hot? Perez Hilton? Neil Patrick Harris? You couldn't give this chick curves if you took a ball bat to her body!

I am SOOO thankful that Latin America doesn't place these flat-bodied North American and European Women up on a Pedestal. Give me Car Audio Chicas any day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSu6CcmQA5c

The next time I am going to give a presentation at work and am sporting wood from daydreaming about all the hot paisas I am going to bang on my next trip, I will google Kate Upton pics to help me to quickly lose my erection, lol!

And in case you didn't know, Janet Jackson married a billionaire from Qatar. Do you find anything funny or outrageous about that?

[Nino Bravo]

A Saudi billionaire prince, LOL? Who says this broad is hot? Perez Hilton? Neil Patrick Harris? You couldn't give this chick curves if you took a ball bat to her body!

I am SOOO thankful that Latin America doesn't place these flat-bodied North American and European Women up on a Pedestal. Give me Car Audio Chicas any day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSu6CcmQA5c

The next time I am going to give a presentation at work and am sporting wood from daydreaming about all the hot paisas I am going to bang on my next trip, I will google Kate Upton pics to help me to quickly lose my erection, lol!

Evidently our esteemed member Vegas Jeff thinks she's hot. And most of america. And I'm sure if she approached you on the street you'd bang her and a heartbeat. Not too much rational thinking on this board. And I'm sure none of the Car Audio girls would leave their low wage earning Caleño boyfriends for you or anyone else on this board, no matter how much money you offered them. You guys are spending way too much time with those poor barrio paisa prepagos. SMH.

[Member #4396]

What did my reply, CMartnez and Nino Bravos reply and summation of FB have in common? Speak Spanish and have at least a bit of cash. Handsome is relative. Cool is forever!

Well said.

At the end of the day, men and women want to be with high-quality members of the opposite sex. Men just have a lot more ways to become high quality than women, for whom a huge % of it is looks (that percentage shifts if you're looking for a wife vs a night, but it's always high).

[SavePros321]

Kate Upton isn't with the richest man in the world either, although I'm sure she could be with a Saudi billionaire prince if she wanted. And that example is kind of over the top since she isn't a normal woman.

A Saudi billionaire prince, LOL? Who says this broad is hot? Perez Hilton? Neil Patrick Harris? You couldn't give this chick curves if you took a ball bat to her body!

I am SOOO thankful that Latin America doesn't place these flat-bodied North American and European Women up on a Pedestal. Give me Car Audio Chicas any day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSu6CcmQA5c

The next time I am going to give a presentation at work and am sporting wood from daydreaming about all the hot paisas I am going to bang on my next trip, I will google Kate Upton pics to help me to quickly lose my erection, lol!

[BlueChange]

Doesn't matter. Who cares? Here is an idea. Why not ask her in Spanish or thru Google Translate what her kid wants that cost 20 k, 40 k, 60 k,etc. Maybe have her call the kid and have a conversation. This is a positive, allowing you more time and shutting the kids up. Same applies for buying something for her. Maybe this becomes an excuse to meet her somewhere on another day. This is not brain surgery. Common sense stuff really.

Just meant inexpensive things from the US that might be liked that you can't get there. A side from cheap electronics.

[Nino Bravo]

I will try to be polite here. And not pull a message board explosion. Money is what all women want all! Not just the barrio girls or Colombia girls all women and girls in the history of the planet all want and like money the most!! By extension what that money provides.

Kate Upton ain't dating a guy with a bus pass x subway combo!

I'll help you on this one. Money. A few night at the M. Got that and then she not going to call you back or show up until she out. Ever wonder why you book a girl and she no shows? The guy that fucked her before your date gave her a propina so she good! She don't need to see your ass!

Security. For a paisa the bills are paid, food in the nevera and lights and TV are on? They are secure for a another month! Swish! Colombians are very short sighted and lack long term planning.
Attention! Baby you so pretty! You look so nice! You smell so good! Lour ass looks sexy in them shorts! Wow did you get smarter? I love you I need you! You're my only one! You are so special to me! Women need this sort of affirmation like a fish needs water!..

Kate Upton isn't with the richest man in the world either, although I'm sure she could be with a Saudi billionaire prince if she wanted. And that example is kind of over the top since she isn't a normal woman. Of course a hot model with be with a successful guy. Sofia Vergara isn't with that rich of a man, not very successful in terms of Hollywood or business. And she could have her pick of more successful, richer men. Now, do the prepagos do it for the money? Of course, but I think the majority of women in the world are with a man because of other things other than money. Just look at the everyday hot paisas you see walking around Medellin with their boyfriends. Most of these guys, even if they are a doctor are making very low wages compared to gringos. But I don't care if a gringo throws $100,000 a year at any of these girls, they aren't going to leave their paisa boyfriends. If it was all about money, these everyday hot paisas would be lined up outside of The Mansion like groupies or overrunning Parque Llleras to hook up with one of us "rich gringos". Is there a reason why this isn't happening if money is such a factor? I guess no one here has come in contact with these type of Colombian women (just prepagos) but I have in order to know what's really important to them.

So Vegas Jeff, I respect what you write, but it comes from the monger / prepago standpoint, not the real world. I really don't want to hear about what happened on a "Two and a half men" episode, since that particular one quoted was written by that loser Charlie Sheen. It might be how his world works, but not how the real world works. The prepagos go back to their barrio boyfriends because they love them and would never leave them for a gringo john. Guys need to keep in mind that these are just business relationships. The 5' 5" guy with the big bankroll isn't going to keep the hot girl for very long.

[SBeach25]

Albert Litsch is as slimey as they come.

I was warned by some reliable sources before hand. Asked around and looked at his cheesy want to be big baller pics. So I denied him. Guess he's making his round on this board trying to reach out to newbies.

[Vegas Jeff]

Awesome idea! I like what you are saying. What kinda gifts if you don't mind me asking? My homie did something similar to this in Brazil and cleaned up. Lots of little stuff from the states. Give me some good gift ideas!

Doesn't matter. Who cares? Here is an idea. Why not ask her in Spanish or thru Google Translate what her kid wants that cost 20 k, 40 k, 60 k,etc. Maybe have her call the kid and have a conversation. This is a positive, allowing you more time and shutting the kids up. Same applies for buying something for her. Maybe this becomes an excuse to meet her somewhere on another day. This is not brain surgery. Common sense stuff really.

[BlueChange]

I like 30+ chicas. They are very abandoned and some of them are just beautiful and have a great figure. They love to have sex. Man o man. They aRe up for it all the time. I also like my 20-24 yrs old working girls too. Medellin I feel has it all. I'm 35 and its nice to spend time relaxing and sightseeing part of the day or going shopping for nice shirts and suits and shoes. I found Medellin offers all of that. And has a lot for a guy that wants to get out of the mansion during the day. During this trip I had dates with 3 chicas that are 30+ and it was a great time. I brought them gifts from the states for their kids. Small stuff maybe spent about $75 usd on each for gifts. In turn at the end there was no asking for money. Just questions about when we could meet up again. Those gifts were such a big help for them and it was so gratefully paid back in the bedroom. I would have them anytime of the day. On avg I would have sex 3-4 times a day. Morning sex was the best. I suggest be open to a little bit older chicas if they cross your way. A nice sincere hardworking girl in Medellin will def show you a good time if you are good to them and no need to go over board but don't expect it to be free either.

Awesome idea! I like what you are saying. What kinda gifts if you don't mind me asking? My homie did something similar to this in Brazil and cleaned up. Lots of little stuff from the states. Give me some good gift ideas!

[NCal2014]

I like 30+ chicas. They are very abandoned and some of them are just beautiful and have a great figure. They love to have sex. Man o man. They aRe up for it all the time. I also like my 20-24 yrs old working girls too. Medellin I feel has it all. I'm 35 and its nice to spend time relaxing and sightseeing part of the day or going shopping for nice shirts and suits and shoes. I found Medellin offers all of that. And has a lot for a guy that wants to get out of the mansion during the day. During this trip I had dates with 3 chicas that are 30+ and it was a great time. I brought them gifts from the states for their kids. Small stuff maybe spent about $75 usd on each for gifts. In turn at the end there was no asking for money. Just questions about when we could meet up again. Those gifts were such a big help for them and it was so gratefully paid back in the bedroom. I would have them anytime of the day. On avg I would have sex 3-4 times a day. Morning sex was the best. I suggest be open to a little bit older chicas if they cross your way. A nice sincere hardworking girl in Medellin will def show you a good time if you are good to them and no need to go over board but don't expect it to be free either.