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  1. #57340
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yes. But that is not to say that being selfish is a bad thing. I love McDonald's, but if they are going under am I going to send money to help keep the company afloat or am I only interested in helping McDonald's out when I am there in person getting burgers and fries for the money I am handing over? With that said, if I was starving to death would McDonald's rush over with a couple of free Big Macs? Probably not.

    If he was there horny as a horndog with no money, would the chick (assuming she is a hooker) rush over to give him some free pussy? Probably not.
    You've got to get off of McDonald's. Every damn thing you compare to McDonald's and it usually doesn't work. Let's change it to something more realistic.

    Let's say that Sophia sells homemade tamales. Every day she makes a fresh batch and visits local office buildings and construction sites selling her tamales. She uses the money to support herself and her family.

    Now you have something comparable. Both Sophia and the random prepago are selling their own product, as sole proprietors, instead of a multinational, publicly traded corporation. It's unlikely that the board of directors for McDonald's knows who you are, no matter how often you eat there. However, if you're a regular customer of Sophia's, she probably knows your name.

    If Sophia doesn't show up for a few days, one or more of her customers might wonder why, might do some checking and might find out she's been sick and can't work. Those same concerned customers might take up a collection to help Sophia out until she recovers.

    In this situation, do you toss a few dollars into the hat, or do you only offer to help if someone is promising you free tamales in the future?

    Of course with the random girl on Whatsapp there's always a good chance that her crisis is all bullshit.

    If a random monger is in Medellin and has no money, his priority should be either getting money, or getting back home where he can get some money. I speak from experience. I can tell you that when I was flat broke in Laureles I wasn't wasting my time messaging prepagos looking for free sex.

    I disagree with the "never send money" view on a personal level, while recognizing it as good advice for the new mongers. Instead, I assess each situation, considering also my current cash flow, and make a decision. The one factor which is never part of the process is "what's in it for me?

  2. #57339
    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic88  [View Original Post]
    I really liked Haven. It's was pretty nice had a rooftop pool and bar and guest friendly.
    Ditto on Haven. Their rooms are awesome (some of them have in-room jacuzzi or on the balcony). Free buffet breakfast has a pretty good spread including eggs and deli. Security is always visible in the lobby. Down side is after 1 girl / day they charge 100 k COP for 2nd girl on. You may be able to get them through without registration at certain times of the day. Great beds, linens, towels, room service. Also. Make friends with the security and tip well for a better stay. Pool is only open I think until 6 pm or so (that's where your in-room jacuzzi comes in). They also have a sister property Viktory that was under renovations when I was there but similar types of rooms if willing to pay a premium to stay in that area.

  3. #57338
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, the pool is covered by a black mesh screen so that office workers in the nearby high rise buildings don't look down and see too much "inappropriate" activity (that is how it was explained to me).

    So no direct sunlight equals extra cool water.
    No offense to anyone here but the mansion is overrated.

  4. #57337
    Quote Originally Posted by RacShack  [View Original Post]
    I also love a pool, but heard many times the pool at Mansion is very very cold and hardly ever anyone swims in it, including the girls, just a heads up.
    Yeah, the pool is covered by a black mesh screen so that office workers in the nearby high rise buildings don't look down and see too much "inappropriate" activity (that is how it was explained to me).

    So no direct sunlight equals extra cool water.

  5. #57336
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps you can clarify where you met this Chica, because it doesn't sound like a Centro street hoe.
    Tinder, I would never give an el centro chica 200 k for a 1 and done LOL.

  6. #57335
    By my own criteria I am a sucker because now that I think about it, over the years I've probably handed out 500,000 pesos to random panhandlers and girls in 500 to 1,000 peso increments. A tinto here, an empanada there and before you know it you are in the 7 figure territory. Around Centro it is part of the atmosphere. I don't think girls expect it on a regular basis as much as they want it and ask for it. I feel like this is a variation on the how much is too much to pay girls. I am a bit of an anarchist on the subject. I don't think any amount is a problem as long as it doesn't put the person paying it or giving it out in financial ruin. I also don't think what I do or don't give to panhandlers or girls who claim to be in dire need has impact on other guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I'm a bit confused about this and how you can get in a position that is hard to get out of.

    I personally have a few girls I help out from time to time, not a lot, and not enough to support a better lifestyle, such as a better apartment, etc.

    However I temper it, and at times help them out when not asked depending on what is going on in their lives. And when I get a RFM, I don't always help them out, so they know it's not going to be regular thing. And when I turn them down when they make a RFM, they don't hold it against me.

    I understand that if someone care's for someone how that might effect them in the situation being talked about, yet in reality, most of these women are just playing us all. And you can't blame them, so I try to balance how I deal with it, not giving much, yet something at times, and the dividends have been unreal.

    I also think a lot of these women will respect a guy much more who don't cave every time they get an RFM.

    Just my thoughts on all this after reading the numerous posts on this subject.

  7. #57334

    Lfg!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WeeDonk  [View Original Post]
    Yoooo! Hello fellow mongers. Inaugural post here on the international side, I've got a few posts on the USA end of things with "Earlystart83" profile. Wanted to give a shot out to the active accounts that share knowledge and experience here and really give a huge head start to those that want to do a bit a research. Respect!

    Tiny background: late thirties, American, 50 nations, tons of states. Mongered in many of those spots despite the vast majority of the trips not being "mongering trips". . Done some quintessential legs of the worldwide monger scene: Thailand, Tijuana, Brazil, Vietnam, DR, Costa Rica, Holland, Germany etc etc. Experienced the high end FKK / thermas styles, revolving door Hot Tocs (blow job salons), to abandoned lot / back alley <$10 streetwalker blowjobs in sketchy areas. Really enjoy the streetwalker tango in USA despite all of the potential risks (cops, getting robbed, drug addicted chicks, hyper low quality broads at.

    Times etc). The thrill of that can be pretty exhilarating and sometimes you can find some diamonds in the rough. But that is specifically about just getting a blowjob in the car here and there. Done some fun streetwalker car acquisitions in Italy, CR, DR. But generally it's been by foot when I find myself abroad, so I'm ready to hit the pavement in MED.

    I'm so excited to try Colombia. Heard about the quality and quantity for over a decade but the trip just never came together. From what I've gathered it's a special place with a lot of different options and styles. Here's my proposed plan: I'm there for 5 days. I know I love a good street scene and from what I've deduced from some research is: like all.

    Places there is a certain level of risk, much lower percentage of top level chicks (compared to other higher end options), but with experience and some Spanish skills there are some treasures to excavate. I've got a seemingly solid air Bnb within about 12 blocks of plaza Bortero (south west of it across Oriental, seemingly not crazy sketchy based on reviews and research). I figure I can just hop over to some of the centro areas I've jotted down and peep the scene and slowly start to gauge the situation. I have no desire to hit Llera. Might hit up a few casas. I'the like to have at least one La isla type experience to see what the top end looks like so I can compare to the same levels / styles elsewhere in Brazil, Germany, Hong Kong etc. But I'm way more excited about the full on freelance scene where there are a wider range of variables, you satisfy that addictive feeling of a chase / hunt, and there is plenty of room for negotiation.

    Would be stoked to hear what some of y'all think of that plan. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and YMMV but I know what I like and from what I hear, the centro street scene rivals any as far as price: quality goes. I'm aware of most pitfalls and I keep my head on a swivel so I'm not one to fall victim to most bonehead situations. I've also been known to love to ask girls to take photos and / or film which doesn't seem as conducive while chasing tail in higher end / nice spots or even most casas. My goal isn't to get deals, and awesome rates, it's just to get find high quality Colombianas, and once they've proven their worth, keep 'them around for more hours, overnight, or even repeat. Thoughts / advice?
    I'll prob be the guy in centro starting tomorrow to beat you to that fresh cutie in the corner. I go hard in centro for day action and have evening date w fancier ladies from dating sites, non pros. After mde centro your next destination should be santa fe Bogota, even better. Yes you'll enjoy La Isla for some decent qualities. Honestly the best Medellin has to offer imo is from seeking (sugar daddy site), that's where I get my gems and that's likely where you'll meet local indie college cuties new too hookie willing to get filmd and take photos. Many of them thinks they're models hence the model shots from their profiles. That's a lot to do in 5 days, but if you're really a street dude once you hit el centro and some casas or clubs around centro you'll feel right at home and will likely forget those high maintenance hawkers. Since at times they ask for a lot, and def you won't have enough days for the non pro games since those sometimes wants to be wined and dined and no sex on first date LOL, No money exchanged either. Those dates are usually fine with me, that's how my spend my luxury time in between nuts on vaca, plus I don't have to eat alone, in the company of a beautiful 8+, non rushed, good convo, wine, and no money for sex or directly for sex when we got to that. If you see someone who looks like a real hunter in centro it's me LOL. Have fun.

  8. #57333
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Posts like this amaze me. All it takes to "get out of it" is a bit of backbone. Or better yet, don't get in the situation to start with. The girls are prostitutes. If she needs $ she has something to sell.

    This used to be the go to position in forums such as this, but nowadays the send money guys are at least the most vocal. Let's hope they are still the minority. Wow.
    WTF do you care? I'll spend my money however I choose. BTW not all girls are prostitutes. I have had lovely experiences with scores of young women here and only some were prostitutes. Others were working or going to college and needed a little extra financial assistance. So they spent a few hours with me and our mutually beneficial friendship almost always ended on very good terms. On very rare occasions one will write me asking for money but most write me and ask if we can see each other again.

    Jackrabbits who whine about how much other guys spend are usually broke and afraid that if prices get pushed up they might not be able to afford their $25 a day vacation.

  9. #57332
    It sounds complicated. I guess it is a good option if you have to be within walking distance of Parque Lleras. I always take everything I read on tripadvisor with a grain of salt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    The last two times I was there, this is what I was told:

    1) Maybe 6 months ago or so. You can have as many girls as you like per day, but only one at a time. If you have two at a time, you pay 100 mil for the extra.

    2) August, 2022 - you are permitted to have one girl per day. If you have more, it is an extra 120 mil for each one (but only one at a time). I did not see a lot of chicas for the few days I was there (I was in an apartment for a week before that), but I want to think I had two girls visit in one day. And never got charged.

    I also understand that if you get one of the more expensive rooms, they may permit you to have more than one at a time, so probably best to call. As their policies seem to change a bit over time.

  10. #57331
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I'm a bit confused about this and how you can get in a position that is hard to get out of.
    Because he feels as guilty to quit sending money as he would have if he had said no the first time. And maybe he thinks he will lose his pussy if he does not send money the first time or that he will lose his pussy if he stops sending money.

  11. #57330
    The last two times I was there, this is what I was told:

    1) Maybe 6 months ago or so. You can have as many girls as you like per day, but only one at a time. If you have two at a time, you pay 100 mil for the extra.

    2) August, 2022 - you are permitted to have one girl per day. If you have more, it is an extra 120 mil for each one (but only one at a time). I did not see a lot of chicas for the few days I was there (I was in an apartment for a week before that), but I want to think I had two girls visit in one day. And never got charged.

    I also understand that if you get one of the more expensive rooms, they may permit you to have more than one at a time, so probably best to call. As their policies seem to change a bit over time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I read complaints about guest fees at Haven. I read this on tripadvisor so it might it's best to confirm with the hotel.

  12. #57329
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Of course it is possible. But if she clearly is in a very vulnerable position, and if you actually care about her it becomes more difficult. I've done exactly what you suggest a couple of times. Just said "this is it, doesn't matter if your kids are hungry. It's not my problem". But a couple of times I have helped a bit, not a regular amount, but over time it creates the situation I talked about, and it becomes a regular thing and very hard to get out of.
    I'm a bit confused about this and how you can get in a position that is hard to get out of.

    I personally have a few girls I help out from time to time, not a lot, and not enough to support a better lifestyle, such as a better apartment, etc.

    However I temper it, and at times help them out when not asked depending on what is going on in their lives. And when I get a RFM, I don't always help them out, so they know it's not going to be regular thing. And when I turn them down when they make a RFM, they don't hold it against me.

    I understand that if someone care's for someone how that might effect them in the situation being talked about, yet in reality, most of these women are just playing us all. And you can't blame them, so I try to balance how I deal with it, not giving much, yet something at times, and the dividends have been unreal.

    I also think a lot of these women will respect a guy much more who don't cave every time they get an RFM.

    Just my thoughts on all this after reading the numerous posts on this subject.

  13. #57328

    ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Of course it is possible. But if she clearly is in a very vulnerable position, and if you actually care about her it becomes more difficult. I've done exactly what you suggest a couple of times. Just said "this is it, doesn't matter if your kids are hungry. It's not my problem". But a couple of times I have helped a bit, not a regular amount, but over time it creates the situation I talked about, and it becomes a regular thing and very hard to get out of.
    Posts like this amaze me. All it takes to "get out of it" is a bit of backbone. Or better yet, don't get in the situation to start with. The girls are prostitutes. If she needs $ she has something to sell.

    This used to be the go to position in forums such as this, but nowadays the send money guys are at least the most vocal. Let's hope they are still the minority. Wow.

  14. #57327
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    No such thing as "temporary help" ?? Huh? You send some help to a girl you think deserves a little something, and say that's it. You don't have to put her on a weekly allowance, LOL.
    So you think she deserves something the first time but does not deserve something the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th time she asks? You think her kids should eat because they are hungry the first time but not the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th time? You think they should have medicine or lights the first time but not the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th time? Why care about it the first time but not care about it subsequent times? I tend to not care about it from the beginning.

    If I do not tell them a flat out no, I say well I have the day off Saturday, but I will ask my boss if I can go in and work 8 hours so I will have money for you. That sounds ridiculous to most people. Then they realize that our money comes from actually working and it does not just magically appear for us to give away. Then they will say nevermind.

  15. #57326
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    No such thing as "temporary help" ??

    Huh?

    You send some help to a girl you think deserves a little something, and say that's it.

    You don't have to put her on a weekly allowance, LOL.
    Of course it is possible. But if she clearly is in a very vulnerable position, and if you actually care about her it becomes more difficult. I've done exactly what you suggest a couple of times. Just said "this is it, doesn't matter if your kids are hungry. It's not my problem". But a couple of times I have helped a bit, not a regular amount, but over time it creates the situation I talked about, and it becomes a regular thing and very hard to get out of.

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