Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

That is in my plan although I figured that I would try the casas like New Life or Zandalay rather than street meat. One notch more expensive, but one notch safer, I assume. Regardless, I won't be bringing my Rolex and laptop and home stereo and gold bars walking around Centro. I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?

This is a good place for this.

Almost everyone carries a phone. Many bring a cheap phone to use. Keep the phone in a front pants pocket. If you need to look at the phone, step into a building or stop and put your back against the wall. Before pulling out your phone look both ways to see if anyone is watching you. Have Google Maps open with your destination marked. That way you only need a few seconds to get your bearings.

The street signs aren't on poles at the corners. They are mounted on the buildings at the corner. Street addresses are a measure of distance, in meters from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life's address is Calle 56 #43-39. It's on Calle 56,39 meters west of Carrera 43. Since it's an odd number it's on the south side. To make it easier, you go through the blue door and up the stairs, through a second security gate.

You'll only find white taxis at the airport. The taxis in Medellin are yellow. When you exit New Life turn left. Walk 2 blocks to Avenida Oriental. You can't miss it, it's the biggest street in the area. Cross Oriental and turn left. Walk 3 blocks (busy street, lots of people) and turn right on Avenida Maracaibo. That will take you to the Metro tracks. Turn left and you'll see Plaza Botero. You can find a taxi there, or walk to the Parque Berrio Metro station.

[Wet Nose]

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[Bill]

In denial present company not excluded.

Making excuses why not to fuel the addiction by doing this or that, he did this or that wrong so it won't happen to me. LOL.

Staying home is the solution to not being shot drugged or robbed in Colombia. Any takers? Ha ha.

[MoonShot]

I'm planning to follow your recommendations.

Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:

4. Go to New Life during the day.

5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Paul's story being picked up by Newsweek and local channels in LOS Angeles County where he is from. It involved a Tinder date apparently and it is a tragic story. It is just another reminder that guys have to be very careful in Medellin. Medellin is just a little bit more dangerous than other mongering cities in other countries. Before I visited Medellin, I read so many reports about druggings and robberies in Medellin so I was very alert to that fact. What happened to Paul and a fellow board member in the same time period recently is something that newbies should be very careful about.

At the same time, I would say that you don't need to just stick with casas and the Mansion. If you stay in a hotel that checks ID, and you do your due diligence on Facebook, that can work and be safe too. On my two weeks to Medellin, I used Facebook exclusively and so far everything has been fine and I have been very content.

[JustTK]

I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?

It might all seem a little daunting to start, but its not that bad. When I first started in MDE, I would choose a couple of casas close together (a second one for just in case I didn't fancy anyhting in the first one). So I just got a taxi to the door of the first, and the seond one would only be a couple of blocks away. After you do it a few times, the pieces of the Centro jigsaw slowly fit togther better. The good news is that almost none of the casas are in really dangerous areas, and they are closed during witchhing hour anyway. So you should be fine, even if you get lost and have to follow your Google maps. Taxis are everywhere in MDE. Amd sure if they all went down the same street at the same time, an acorn would drop from a tree in Australia.

[HappyShiva]

Never been drugged, thank God.

A good friend of mine got drugged in Medellin by a street woman, took his wallet, CC, Cel phone. His life just stopped without CC and celphone and took him forever to recieive new CC from EU. He brought her to the apartment late in the evening, opened beer and boom all of sudden he was knocked out until next afternoon. And slowly slowly he regained and realized that he got robbed and drugged.

[Lefeu]

...When I first came on this forum I asked the question of whether you mitigate your risk of drugging in MDE by agreeing to a price up front rather than trying to do vanilla dating (ie, supposed non-pros). I was told I was naive and lacked street smarts for thinking this way. But in the two years since I have heard lots of reports of druggings and not one of them involved a payment, always guys trying to vanilla date and get laid without paying. I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.

I somehow agree with you. My wingman was drugged in Cartagena, even though we were sharing an apartment in Laguito. I was tired and went to bed around midnight, leaving the two of them in the living room. My bedroom was not locked, so I was lucky that she did not come to my room. My buddy was fine the next day, in the pm.

I found out later that my wingman bargained hard with his girl, getting her to agree to a TLN for a very cheap price. I suspected there was some revenge motive in her plan.

[Combo]

A couple drinks is fine as long as you watch your drink. Just don't get wasted. You make yourself a much easier target. And even if you're drinking water or Coke, you still need to watch your drink. Just keep in mind these girls aren't your friends. Though the good ones can make you feel like it.

The quality at the Mansion can vary a lot. One week might be great, the next week next to nothing. I've stayed dozens of times, but I always end up using other venues to complement what's available on site.

[ShinyCrazy]

I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.

You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.

That is in my plan although I figured that I would try the casas like New Life or Zandalay rather than street meat. One notch more expensive, but one notch safer, I assume. Regardless, I won't be bringing my Rolex and laptop and home stereo and gold bars walking around Centro. I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?

[ShinyCrazy]

I plan to definitely connect with the other guys at the Mansion, and of course take advantage of the girls at the Mansion. I haven't seen any recent reports of the number and quality of girls at the Mansion bar. Hoping the pickings aren't so slim that I need to cast a wider net. Regardless of the price of the Mansion, for those of us short time visitors, it is much cheaper than ending up dead in a garbage bag in a ditch. I'll pay more for safety.

I think you can try to make friends with other mongers or make connections with girls while you are in Mansion to take advantage of it since it is not cheap to stay there. You maybe able to find like minded mongers to learn about Medellin or go out with.

[Surfer500]

Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?

Well thru my lens, mongering in Medellin was much better prior to the Pandemic, yet the City as you mention is becoming a tourist and digital nomad mecca. Since the Pandemic, hordes of foreign mongers have arrived spoiling things not limited to just price and service as reported here. Albeit the foreign mongers with lots of experience in Medellin, and those that either live here or spend six months a year here, and have Spanish speaking skills won't be affected as much as the other mongers.

[Knowledge]

I'm pretty sure you could stand on la 10 for several days and not see a single person pass by who has been this sort of victim. The odds are against it but it does happen. For argument's sake let's say the 27 documented cases are a subset of 100 or more that includes unreported or unknown cases. It's still a small percentage of the total number of annual visitors. The pattern you see in the reports are inexperienced guys who did not recognize the warning signs. Let's none of us please be one of those guys.

Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.

BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?

[Knowledge]

#3 in my opinion is the best of that good list.

If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.

Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.

Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone..

[Mtndew704]

How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.

Never been drugged, thank God.

[Villainy]

I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.

Absolutely f*ing right. I follow exactly the same procedures including drinking water from a capped bottle. Of course my hotel checks on-line and records all the cedula information. I wouldn't say it is impossible to get scoped in this scenario but it is dramatically safer and I've never heard of anyone getting scoped in this hotel or the San Peter which follows similar procedures.

Another worthwhile alternative for those who are new and very concerned with safety. There is a short term hotel on Calle 33 called Thematic Luxury. Not only do both the male and female need to present identification when checking in (passport will work fellows) but the rooms are electronically locked after you enter. You have to call the front desk to get out and they send someone up to check the minibar before they buzz the door open. Also they speak to the guy before buzzing you out or sending someone up to check the room out. No girl is going to scope you when she can't get out of the room.

Rooms there run from 60-90 mil ($12-18) for 3 hours and the pricier rooms have a nice sized jacuzzi.