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  1. #38813
    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    Pinky asked when we could see each other, yesterday afternoon.
    Didn't Pinky give you a pregnancy scare. Or was it Wifey? What's the update there?

  2. #38812

    Non-Travel / COVID-Related

    Pinky asked when we could see each other, yesterday afternoon. She came over around 630p. I grilled some steaks, we had a bottle of wine. She wanted some tussi. Our contact wasn't responding, so she showed me some other contact on WhatsApp that sends out a list of maybe 50 things you can order. It was a bit expensive, compared to others. I received a message from a repeat the other day, asking when we'll see each other. I was with her once, a couple months ago. She's from La Diabla's list. I know she likes to party, so I asked her if she wanted to come over and bring some tussi. She gets it for 45k, which is about 60% of most options. I was a little nervous, as was Pinky, because of the price. It turned out to be fine, but with a bit of a burning sensation and a shitty peach scent / flavor.

    I had told her not to come, because she said she would have it delivered, then she would bring it. I figured she would arrive at 12 and I didn't want to start so late. She arrived at 11 p. Standard procedure. She was fun and the girls hit it off. In total, I paid her 350k for 3 grams + her. Pinky also bought a gram, herself. She just left about an hour ago. Pinky also took 20k for a taxi, and her Uber was 15k, yesterday. Good times. Pinky without condom, other girl with.
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  3. #38811
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    That's the percentage of Colombia's GDP that tourism accounts for. 3.8%.

    Opening up the borders, considering tourism will not immediately return to previous levels, is not going to do anything for the Colombian economy, even if they throw the doors wide open, no quarantine, no testing and no restrictions based on country of origin.

    At best, restoring international travel would represent a tiny blip on the economic radar.

    As much as you all want to try and rationalize why Colombia should make it easy for you to come back, it has no effect on when the borders will open.
    If opening up the borders to International travel represents a "tiny blip" on the economic radar, than why open at all. Granted that tourism accounts for a small portion of their GDP, what about other aspects of the economy that have been impacted by being closed. I would venture to guess the effect is much greater than 3. 8% represented for tourism and will drive the re-opening versus all of us mongers wanting to return as you have mentioned.

  4. #38810
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    I will not question your claims, which reflect your opinion, but I just wish to point out that EU borders are not open at all. There is almost free circulation withing the Schengen area (and UK, Ireland), but people from outside Schengen (including USA) CANNOT enter Europe unless for very specific reasons that must be certified (work, return to home, urgent matters, etc.), certainly not for tourism.

    Right in these days, more restrictions have been and are going to be introduced also within Schengen.

    From some few extra-Schengen countries, people CAN enter Europe, but are mandated to 14-days quarantine.

    From some other countries (including Brazil), entrance to Europe is forbidden, period.

    Where did you read that in various parts of USA 70% of people has enough antibodies to be immune, or just 70% was infected? Please, not even The Donald (not Duck) even dared to tweet anything like this!
    With regards to the EU, I said that they opened up their borders. Not to everyone but certain countries yes. The US closed borders with the EU first, and the EU followed after. For the EU to open borders, the US must drop the restrictions first. People easily assume it's because of the high number of cases in the US, but be serious. If the US announced tomorrow that borders are reopening, the EU will drop their restrictions. And the EU has requested the US do this, the largest airlines in the EU especially. Tourism in Colombia is growing, I saw someone mention 3. 8% GDP but record number of visitors last year, and more were expected this year. Lots of jobs depend on tourism from the US to surrounding countries in Latin America. To imply that it makes no difference to the economy if borders opened up is simply not true.

    With herd immunity, this is being achieved at approximately 20%. Most recent studies indicate that the burnout rate is between 15-20% before cases start dropping. This was the case in NY especially, and also in Sweden. In the coming days / weeks you'll see cases dropping in FL, TX, AZ, GA etc. And it will be due to this. The rest of the country will see the reductions in early September from my calculations, before it is basically a national burnout.

  5. #38809
    Quote Originally Posted by MMHikeus  [View Original Post]
    Colombians male or female need cedula. A scanned copy is retained, and the cedula number is verified against the national police database.

    Non Colombians need a passport. No exceptions. Generally rules out most venues.

    No limit on the number of visitors per day or at a time. Like 2-4 guests at a time, or 2-4 per day. Not sure you can do 20 though.

    I have personally done threesomes and foursomes, no problem.

    I have stayed in the building many times. PM me if you have additional questions.
    Is that building currently open?

  6. #38808
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    NY, NJ and San Marino pretty much reached herd immunity. There's a reason why the countries / states / cities with the highest numbers of deaths are also seeing sharp decreases in new deaths. It's called herd immunity, or do you think that's a coincidence? Why are you mentioning 70%? The threshold for herd immunity is unknown, it could be as low as 40%.
    On what TV channel did you read that those areas reached herd immunity? Is it a wishful thinking or what? How could you even present it as a fact, when it is a claim?

    Epidemiology is a tough subject. I spent some time listening to colleagues who study epidemiology from the mathematical modelling standpoint, and I was astonished when I saw the number of parameters of the model ranging from 10 to 20, depending on the complexity and level of detail. ISG is not really the right venue where to discuss about such complex matters. It's a branch of math belonging to control theory, which is fascinating indeed.

    70% is the most cited number for a so-called "herd immunity", assuming that such X% of persons is immune. Please note that X depends on how contagious is a disease: the more contagious it is, the higher is X. Last year, I read that for measles, which is way more contagious than COVID, the percentage of kids in schools that should be vaccinated, to protect those who cannot take a vaccine because of problems at their immune system, is above 90%.

    Nobody knows for sure what is the threshold for "herd immunity" for COVID. You claim 40%? Or 70%? Whatever. One can speculate, but there are not enough empirical data. It is not even sure it may exist!

    First of all, nobody knows what is the level of protection gained by those who recovered successfully out of COVID. Several people fell back, and nobody is sure if it was a new infection, or the same as before. Second, nobody knows how long such immunity lasts. Third, nobody knows for sure what is the real number of people in a region (even NY) who caught the virus and developed antibodies or some other type of "immunity". There are esteems, and all can be questioned.

    Last but not least, it is true that the natural development of an epidemic shows a peak, but the reason why the count (be it of deaths, of sick, of positive, .) at some points starts to decrease is not necessarily that herd immunity has been reached. Otherwise, there should never be a "second wave" (Spanish Flu had 4 or 5? Such "second waves" do happen right because the first wave ended, but herd immunity is still far from being reached.

    Herd immunity would be the only reason of going down after the peak only in a community with free circulation and no countermeasures, a huge pot where people freely mixes and randomly passes the virus. Fortunately, in most countries some people takes serious measures against infection, or mobility is limited.

    Is herd immunity a target to aim at, at least for COVID? I would not say so, unless one would accept to see millions of deaths in a country with 300 millions of people potentially subject to be infected, not to mention the permanent effects left by the disease in some patients.

  7. #38807
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGault  [View Original Post]
    I will not argue the 3. 8 % you state is not correct. That percent means nothing to the average Puta in MDE. It is more like 95% who are being devastated by no foreign mongers being present.

    A lot of the lower class girls mostly Vennies are sleeping on the street. Of course most of the customers these girls get are local hombres, but still the lack of the guys who most likely pay a little more than a local guy is really hurting these poor devils. There is nobody in Colombia handing out $1200 checks to people out of work.

    The Colombia economy in general does not reflect the plight of the Vennies as for the most part they have no family to fall back on as the local girls do.

    I for one was happy for all the hot girls from Venezuela when I was there in March, and now I can only wish them well.
    I well understand the plight of the Vennies and the Colombianas too. But none of that is going to be fixed, or considered when it comes to opening up to international travel.

    Colombia right now is in the "Oh Shit" zone with corona. I believe their current infection rate is the highest, per capita in the world. With everyone reporting that places like Botero Plaza are packed every day, it's easy to see why. Until they enforce a strict lockdown those numbers aren't going down. Until those numbers start going down, it's highly unlikely international flights will resume. Once they enforce a strict lockdown, and that will probably require the army and turn into a major shitshow, start your countdown.

  8. #38806

    The plight of the girls from Venezuela.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    That's the percentage of Colombia's GDP that tourism accounts for. 3.8%.

    Opening up the borders, considering tourism will not immediately return to previous levels, is not going to do anything for the Colombian economy, even if they throw the doors wide open, no quarantine, no testing and no restrictions based on country of origin.

    At best, restoring international travel would represent a tiny blip on the economic radar.

    As much as you all want to try and rationalize why Colombia should make it easy for you to come back, it has no effect on when the borders will open.
    I will not argue the 3. 8 % you state is not correct. That percent means nothing to the average Puta in MDE. It is more like 95% who are being devastated by no foreign mongers being present.

    A lot of the lower class girls mostly Vennies are sleeping on the street. Of course most of the customers these girls get are local hombres, but still the lack of the guys who most likely pay a little more than a local guy is really hurting these poor devils. There is nobody in Colombia handing out $1200 checks to people out of work.

    The Colombia economy in general does not reflect the plight of the Vennies as for the most part they have no family to fall back on as the local girls do.

    I for one was happy for all the hot girls from Venezuela when I was there in March, and now I can only wish them well.

  9. #38805
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.
    Colombians male or female need cedula. A scanned copy is retained, and the cedula number is verified against the national police database.

    Non Colombians need a passport. No exceptions. Generally rules out most venues.

    No limit on the number of visitors per day or at a time. Like 2-4 guests at a time, or 2-4 per day. Not sure you can do 20 though.

    I have personally done threesomes and foursomes, no problem.

    I have stayed in the building many times. PM me if you have additional questions.

  10. #38804
    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    In response to Blakman;2474254 _Decor and space.

    The San Peter is a condo building, so interior design (furniture, wall finishes, decoration), cooking / dining equipment, and other features (type of entry lock, safe / no safe, Wi-Fi, cable TV, hot water heater setup) varies from owner to owner (unit to unit) Most units are managed on behalf of the individual owner through the on-site manager for the building as a whole, but some are listed / managed independently through AirBnB. Photos usually available.

    In terms of space, as I recall there are three (or perhaps four) units per floor, each with its own configuration and varying in size (studio, small one bedroom, and larger one bedroom options). As another member reported, the noise problem depends on the orientation of the unit.

    I can confirm that the management is Girl Friendly but quite strict about IDs. One of my favorites (a Venezuelan hottie) had a Colombian photo Cedula de Identidad issued by Immigration (Permiso Especial de Permanencia or PEP), but the management said there were too many fakes in circulation and insisted on her having another form of cedula as well. We ended up having to have our trysts in a nearby hotel.
    Stayed there many times. The units are all differently furnished and appointed. Generally, the higher floor units have better furniture and amenities, including soundproof windows etc.

    They are chica friendly and keep a copy of the cedula. For Colombians they require a cedula and check it against the national police database. For non Colombians, they only accept passports. So venies are a no go, unless they have a passport. They even check ID for male visitors. No limit on the number of visitors etc. They ask for payment in USD or you can convert and pay in COP at current exchange rate. They always quote price in USD. It's a residential building, and regular families live there, so keeping a low profile in the public areas is prudent.

    All this info is accurate as of March pre covid.

  11. #38803
    I imagine it depends on which barrio. In Medellin, I used to go to Aranjuez and Manrique for night life. I would not do that now. I used to go see chicas I know in San Javier and in Popular. I would not do that now. I would walk on the street less. And not at night. In Bogota, I would never go to centro or the South, even before the virus. I would stay far north. My ex-wife's family say it would be OK with coming to their barrio. They are more concerned with COVID than with crime.

    Caveat for me. I first went to Medellin and Bogota more than 15 years ago when there were still FARC bombings and gringos were a lot less common. So I guess I take it with a grain of salt to some extent. But it is definitely different now than, say, 5 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    I have two good Colombian friends in my city in the US. They are telling me they will not visit any time soon (they usually go back for the Holidays). They say that their families in Bogota and Medellin are telling them that people are desperate and the streets are more dangerous than they've been in recent memory. Of course they think I would be out of my mind to go.

    Caveat - every middle / upper class Colombian is hyper-concerned about danger in their cities, so I take what they say with a grain of salt. But Colombia's lockdown has been severe and the economy is in miserable condition.

  12. #38802
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    They say that their families in Bogota and Medellin are telling them that people are desperate and the streets are more dangerous than they've been in recent memory. Of course they think I would be out of my mind to go.

    Caveat - every middle / upper class Colombian is hyper-concerned about danger in their cities, so I take what they say with a grain of salt. But Colombia's lockdown has been severe and the economy is in miserable condition.
    Combo, I would be interested to know if your relatives are getting that from first or second hand sources or from the media and their usual fear porn. My chicas have pretty much been quarantined indoors, so my guess is your relatives were getting that information from the media.

  13. #38801

    Zaza and Club Amigas

    I haven't been to Club Amigas for a couple of weeks, last time I think there where about 3-4 girls there and they were also in the middle of doing some renovations so gave it a pass. Good to hear there is some new talent and you had a good session. If you feel like sharing details of the girl who doesn't mind CIM, that would be good info to know for sure. For me in the casas that's kind of rare. I haven't been to Zaza's in months, not sure if its still open, from memory that is the one that usually has older heavier women, if its the one I think it is where you go through like a beaded curtain on the way in, never actually sessioned there just visited once or twice. Just so few casas open in centro at the moment and several of them look like they are shut for good, with for rent signs in the windows. As you mentioned lots more action around Botero depending on the day, but also a bit hit and miss depending on your preferences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    Medellin Report:

    Went by Zaza but the door was shut. I didn't knock or ring the bell because I was planning to circle back. Went through Botero and it was packed. A lot of nice talent and phat booties out there. I will definitely be back soon to grab something from out there.

    Walked around and was passing by Club Amigas Sexy and I saw the manager outside the front door so I asked her if they were working and she said yes and if the door is closed just ring the bell. Went up and saw the lineup. Saw a lot of familiar faces and grabbed one I hadn't seen before.

    The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.

    We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.

    I gave her a 20 mil propina. We got dressed and she gave me her number and said she would come see me if I hit her on WhatsApp. Today was a good day.

  14. #38800

    IF They Don't Swallow They Are Being Disrespectful

    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    Medellin Report:

    The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.

    We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.

    I gave her a 20 mil propina.
    Very disrespectful of her not to swallow, and the one's that do are hard to come by.

    If she had swallowed, would you have given her a larger tip?

  15. #38799
    Medellin Report:

    Went by Zaza but the door was shut. I didn't knock or ring the bell because I was planning to circle back. Went through Botero and it was packed. A lot of nice talent and phat booties out there. I will definitely be back soon to grab something from out there.

    Walked around and was passing by Club Amigas Sexy and I saw the manager outside the front door so I asked her if they were working and she said yes and if the door is closed just ring the bell. Went up and saw the lineup. Saw a lot of familiar faces and grabbed one I hadn't seen before.

    The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.

    We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.

    I gave her a 20 mil propina. We got dressed and she gave me her number and said she would come see me if I hit her on WhatsApp. Today was a good day.

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