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  1. #34810
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    My advice to guys who visit Medellin regularly is to hit the ground shopping around. I avoid accommodation like San Peter Apts and Energy where there are lots of gringos as I try to be anonymous in my hobbying destinations. What about us trying to reduce the sex tourism thing that Colombian NGOs love to make reference to. A mongering hub is too visible.
    When I first visited Medellin and continuing for some years I stayed in hotels but after looking around I found accommodation that suits me well that is utilized mostly by Colombians with a smattering of foreigners. It is a furnished 2 bedroom apartment with full kitchen for $40 per night, the reception knows me well by now and there is no problem with me bringing in the odd date. I am mostly a casa man so that is not very often. So guys move around, look around.
    Excellent advice, but.

    An infrequent, first time or hasn't been for many years visitor is a different story. They're more likely to want some assistance, someone to help with the mundane stuff like where and what to eat, how to find the casas and how to buy sildenafil. A mongering hub puts them in a more comfortable environment. It's probably the main reason the Mansion has the same guests who have been staying there for years.

    It also avoids the issue of getting girls turned away because no guests are allowed, a frequent complaint. That's not much of a problem if you rarely bring girls to your apartment, but a big deal for guys planning on 2-3 girls a day.

    For a first visit, for the typical visitor, go with a known entity. On your next trip devote some time to finding a more discreet environment, which better suits your requirements.

  2. #34809
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerlorian  [View Original Post]
    I've read this forum for years. Used it as a travel guide. MrEnternatiinal, Oldkool and others reports helped me plan my first ever trip to Sosua just from trip reports. So I know how to RTFF. I went back 50 pages here and flew out. Stayed in Poblado area. First place wasn't all that girl friendly but I booked for two so there. But they tripped about noise, blah blah. Switched to a place right around the corner. First night was a Monday. Wingman was down for the count so I walked to Parque Lleras myself. At 1130 at night. Earlier in the day I exchanged money at the western union in the exito. I'm not sure why that hasn't been mentioned (or maybe it has). Use your passport seemed favorable exchange rate. I also used the ATM in the exito as well. Went in gusto's, 20 k door damage. Met an Asian cat that gave me the lay of the land and an absolute clutch contact. Got one out Lleras but went against the warning signs of an aggressive chica. 250 k for toda la noche was the agreement. She darth Vader'the That shit and altered our agreement. One nut and ghost. Next day go to Botero but I could not pull from there. I tried to stand near that white church making eye contact, smoking a blunt. No bites. Maybe I looked to Colombian? Not as overt as Sosua and teajay. I couldn't tell who was in the game. I thought I knew but didn't get approached. So how do you pull out of botero? I'm so glad I didn't read about the chica getting robbed at gunpoint. I was there during that time. I think it was Thursday when people started whistling and running in the plaza like chasing a muthafucka. Cops caught dude by conjetas. Yeah went in there too 70 k FS. I can post more if why'all want.
    Please do post more. It helps everyone.

    Yes, Western Union also does currency exchange, with rates comparable to the other exchange places.

    Your Botero experience is a good case for posting before your trip. Sosua and Medellin, completely different vibes. Medellin has a laid back, beach vibe and Sosua has the big city hustle vibe. Walking through the streets in Sosua is a full contact sport, at least it was when I went. It was obvious who the working girls were, because: A. Everyone on the street was working, be. Every one of them would make a grab for you.

    In Medellin very few of the girls will make a move at you. If they do, avoid them. They're either a pickpocket, desperate, or a tranny. Most will just make eye contact and smile, a few will make an annoying tongue clicking sound.

    In Botero Plaza, look for groups of 2 or 3 who aren't taking pictures of the statues. If they're just hanging out in the plaza, they're working. If you see one you want, just talk to her. I'll let Surfer500 school you on the best lines to use. I'd just say something like "buenas (generic Colombian greeting). Quiero una companera (there's supposed to be a tilde over that "and" " Although I'd toss in a few pleasantries first. Settle on a price and off you go.

    For your Parque Lleras experience, TLN should be reserved for girls who rocked your world the first time. Not for first time sessions.

    If you didn't visit any casas, I'd recommend trying them out next trip. You might also want to try out Facebook. If you plan on staying near Parque Lleras, you should have better luck with the Facebook girls.

    What about the rest of your trip? Did you do anything else? What were the issues you ran into? What was your overall impression compared to Sosua?

  3. #34808
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerlorian  [View Original Post]
    Next day go to Botero but I could not pull from there. I tried to stand near that white church making eye contact, smoking a blunt. No bites. Maybe I looked to Colombian? Not as overt as Sosua and teajay. I couldn't tell who was in the game. I thought I knew but didn't get approached. So how do you pull out of botero?
    I don't know what is up with this eye contact thing that some guys talk about. But it seems you have it backwards. You don't sit around and wait for them to come up to you. You walk around and look for them and you approach them. I think it is obvious the ones that are hookers. I guess as I have said before, nobody else is really standing around with slutty looking clothes doing nothing. Most people are downtown walking and taking care of business. The hookers are the ones that are loitering.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It takes patience to find a good one. Just keep making laps, until you see what you like, then pounce.
    Why would you think it had to do something with you looking Colombian? I never see any foreigners downtown. If the hookers there had to depend on foreigners then they would starve. It is a local market.

  4. #34807

    Estas trabajando?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerlorian  [View Original Post]
    I've read this forum for years. .........................


    Next day go to Botero but I could not pull from there. I tried to stand near that white church making eye contact, smoking a blunt. No bites. Maybe I looked to Colombian? Not as overt as Sosua and teajay. I couldn't tell who was in the game. I thought I knew but didn't get approached. So how do you pull out of botero?
    It's easy to miss. Here are some tips.

    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Standing around, walk up to her and ask 2 things, tu estas trabajando (Are You working?) if she says yes, then ask, Cuanto por un rato Contigo (how much pesos to spend a short time with you!) problem solved. Pollo negro is out!
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    I had just spotted a beautiful one sitting alone and went to sit next to her to chat and negotiate, when one who I had already turned down. She was maybe a 6 or 7 at best. She starts harassing me, at first I am just saying "no puedo" and " No puedo, soy demasiado viejo"I telling her the half truth, she kept on so I tell her in my sad broken spanish very loudly in this crowded public place as you know Lleras is " I am in my fifties and I can only do so much in a day and I already had sex three times today, I can't do it again. " With just slight bit of irritation in my voice. She turned to walk away. As soon as she turned her back I turned to the chica I had went to sit next to and asked "Estas Trabajando?" (are you working) she nodded yes, I said "Vamonos".

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerlorian  [View Original Post]
    I tried to stand near that white church making eye contact, smoking a blunt. No bites.
    You should avoid that area. That is where most trannies gather.

    You will see girls around statues or by the trees if you walk toward the direction of the museum and stop before the first intersection. Also a gringo smoking pot publicly is not a good idea

  5. #34806

    Ditto Here

    I've also mongered extensively in both Mexico and Russia, and, unless you're talking the good VFM in St. Petersburg, I do not see a good comparison.

    The Russians may be as physically appealing but, IMHO, the Paisas blow pretty much everyone out of the water with their passion and engagement. As in all cases the caveat is YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uthred  [View Original Post]
    I have been to both Mexico and Russia and prefer Colombians. For the same reason my neighbor prefers Chinese women over Colombians. It's a matter of preference and taste obviously. As for me, I did not have one chick with a fake ass. What I had was girls that are making me wonder how the hell I can live there part of the year LOL. I think you came across a few bad apples that left a sour taste in your mouth. I would definitely not give up on Medellin.

  6. #34805
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    First, I wouldn't consider a hotel. I'd pick an Airbnb at San Peter Apartments in Laureles. Guest friendly, prices from $35-$50 per night, convenient to cheaper food, entertainment and the metro. I also wouldn't consider a $100 day limit for "a perfect week. " $200 per day is more reasonable.

    ..........
    My advice to guys who visit Medellin regularly is to hit the ground shopping around. I avoid accommodation like San Peter Apts and Energy where there are lots of gringos as I try to be anonymous in my hobbying destinations. What about us trying to reduce the sex tourism thing that Colombian NGOs love to make reference to. A mongering hub is too visible.
    When I first visited Medellin and continuing for some years I stayed in hotels but after looking around I found accommodation that suits me well that is utilized mostly by Colombians with a smattering of foreigners. It is a furnished 2 bedroom apartment with full kitchen for $40 per night, the reception knows me well by now and there is no problem with me bringing in the odd date. I am mostly a casa man so that is not very often. So guys move around, look around.

  7. #34804
    Quote Originally Posted by Uthred  [View Original Post]
    I have been to both Mexico and Russia and prefer Colombians. For the same reason my neighbor prefers Chinese women over Colombians. It's a matter of preference and taste obviously. As for me, I did not have one chick with a fake ass. What I had was girls that are making me wonder how the hell I can live there part of the year LOL. I think you came across a few bad apples that left a sour taste in your mouth. I would definitely not give up on Medellin.
    In almost a full year in Medellin I only had one fake ass and it was so well done, I wasn't sure until I asked.

  8. #34803

    First trip to Medellin

    Used western union to exchange money. Couldn't pull of Botero. They didn't even approach me. Do I look too Colombian? All I got was "snoop dog! My first night I hit gusto's 20 k door damage and 50 k for a shot of Hennessy.

  9. #34802

    First post ever; maiden voyage to Medellin

    I've read this forum for years. Used it as a travel guide. MrEnternatiinal, Oldkool and others reports helped me plan my first ever trip to Sosua just from trip reports. So I know how to RTFF. I went back 50 pages here and flew out. Stayed in Poblado area. First place wasn't all that girl friendly but I booked for two so there. But they tripped about noise, blah blah. Switched to a place right around the corner. First night was a Monday. Wingman was down for the count so I walked to Parque Lleras myself. At 1130 at night. Earlier in the day I exchanged money at the western union in the exito. I'm not sure why that hasn't been mentioned (or maybe it has). Use your passport seemed favorable exchange rate. I also used the ATM in the exito as well. Went in gusto's, 20 k door damage. Met an Asian cat that gave me the lay of the land and an absolute clutch contact. Got one out Lleras but went against the warning signs of an aggressive chica. 250 k for toda la noche was the agreement. She darth Vader'the That shit and altered our agreement. One nut and ghost. Next day go to Botero but I could not pull from there. I tried to stand near that white church making eye contact, smoking a blunt. No bites. Maybe I looked to Colombian? Not as overt as Sosua and teajay. I couldn't tell who was in the game. I thought I knew but didn't get approached. So how do you pull out of botero? I'm so glad I didn't read about the chica getting robbed at gunpoint. I was there during that time. I think it was Thursday when people started whistling and running in the plaza like chasing a muthafucka. Cops caught dude by conjetas. Yeah went in there too 70 k FS. I can post more if why'all want.

  10. #34801

    Tired

    Loverboy, this doesn't sound like a GFE time you are having but a 20 year wife you wish you would have divorced 10 years previous. One thing I have learned from mongering is cut bait quick. If a escort or girl is supposed to be at your hotel at 10 and its 1030 leave. Don't play games with these chicks. When drama starts happening with cousins and sisters and God knows what, just cut bait. Most important rule of mongering "Always cut bait when fun is replaced by major headaches".

  11. #34800
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    I have to agree with you, I was not at all impressed with Colombia. Both Mexico and Russia are much better destinations, for me. If you like the fake asses MDE is the place, not for me and I also have fairly high standards. I would not go back to MDE, only for work, MDE was a major let down for me.
    I have been to both Mexico and Russia and prefer Colombians. For the same reason my neighbor prefers Chinese women over Colombians. It's a matter of preference and taste obviously. As for me, I did not have one chick with a fake ass. What I had was girls that are making me wonder how the hell I can live there part of the year LOL. I think you came across a few bad apples that left a sour taste in your mouth. I would definitely not give up on Medellin.

  12. #34799

    Hooked

    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    I for one and very interested in hearing about all your adventures. I do suspect that some members are going to want to verbally thrash you for feeding into her dishonesty and gaminess, its typical chica behavior.
    Well I am hooked to LoverBoy1024 story. Kindly request all the seniors to refrain from thrashing so he completes his multi-part story. Once its done please have a go at him as you please. LOL.

    LoverBoy please keep writing.

  13. #34798

    Very High Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by AboveAverage  [View Original Post]
    I need to make it clear that I have very high standards in women, and I don't mind paying more to see the best of the best.
    Really! LOL!. That sounds good but it don't mean Sh*t with out a reference point! Since "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and we don't know you. Can you post some links to images or name celebrities or pornstars, that correspond to Women who match your high standards?? or purchase a subscription / membership so you can post images. Then we can evaluate what your "high standards" really look like, then recommend the proper place for you to possibly seek your type of women.

  14. #34797
    Rhetorical question: What does the price you would pay at home have to do with the price you pay in Medellin?

    Honest answer: Nothing whatsoever.

    With all due respect, it is a major tell when guys start bringing up the price of whatever back home. It means guys know they overpaid and are looking for a way to justify it. Don't get me wrong, I don't care what guys pay and it's none of my damn business. What I can't abide is not owning it. I do much better when guys say "I can afford it and I don't care if I pay more than I have to pay".

    Quote Originally Posted by AboveAverage  [View Original Post]
    I'm back from Loutron and I'm quite satisfied with my experience. I was worried that the place would be a ghost town at 3 pm but I still got to see a lineup of 10+ girls.

    My high standards once again came into effect and I found most of the girls fell into the 6-8 range but I saw 2 girls who were hard 9's and the girl I chose was one of the sexiest girls I've ever been with. (I reserve 10 for the most perfect girls and I don't think I've ever seen a 10 in this industry, although I have yet to meet any of those IG models).

    I understand that some people consider the Loutron to be overpriced but for the quality of women it still costs less than a third of what I'd pay at home.

  15. #34796
    Quote Originally Posted by RaboVerde  [View Original Post]
    I know RTFF, but I already read the forum, and I wanted to ask ONLY the senior guys with recent experience a question.

    I haven't been to MDE in a long time!

    Assume you are an older world traveler with lots of game, street smarts, and fluent Spanish.

    Assume you like the thin young types.

    Assume you want to spend the first few days interviewing and then the last few days GFE with the best of the bunch.

    Assume a budget of $100-200 a day for everything. As for hotel, you don't need luxury, but no bedbugs, no guest fees and walking distance to venues if possible.

    What would be the perfect week?

    Rough breakdown of costs?

    Hotels, bars, ads, street areas?

    Thanks!
    First, I wouldn't consider a hotel. I'd pick an Airbnb at San Peter Apartments in Laureles. Guest friendly, prices from $35-$50 per night, convenient to cheaper food, entertainment and the metro. I also wouldn't consider a $100 day limit for "a perfect week. " $200 per day is more reasonable.

    You can do $100 day, in El Centro, no air conditioning and a questionable room, but the chance of perfect is slim. If money is an issue, I'd save money on food, rather than skimp on lodging. Shop around and you can eat 3 meals daily for 25-30 k. Also, whenever possible use the metro. Taxi charges add up.

    If you're going the low budget route, follow Surfer500's advice. Hit up the street girls. It takes patience to find a good one. Just keep making laps, until you see what you like, then pounce. Try her out. If she has potential get her number. Repeat until you find enough for phase 2, the GFE dates.

    Costs:

    Lodging $25-$30 daily.

    Food $10 daily.

    Girls $40-$60 daily for trial runs (3-4 daily).

    $50-$60 daily for 1 girl daily for GFE (long session).

    If you're going for the $200 per day budget, I'd start building a Facebook list. Here's a link that will walk you through it:

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    This is an easy guide on how to get started using Facebook to find girls in Medellin.
    I'd work on getting at least 100 girls on your Facebook. I already mentioned lodging. Food strategy remains the same, although you can splurge a bit. Set up the girls 2 per day, if you can handle that. You're going to pay more, but your tryouts will be for much longer and will likely be the GFE you're looking for. Select your favorites for phase 2.

    Costs:

    Lodging $50 per day.

    Food $15 day.

    Girls $125 day (2 girls per day every day, or 1 girl TLN).

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