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  1. #19307
    Quote Originally Posted by Eszpresszo  [View Original Post]
    I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. But, I think you guys know where I going with this. I await your suggestions. TIA.
    I have to agree with the last replies. There is no way to guarantee and upgrade. But what do you mean by upgrade? Looks, sex, GFE? If its looks just find what you are looking for and then pay the price but other than that you just have to take your chances and see what kind of chemistry you may develop before you commit.

    I'm fresh back from SXM and I experienced all three levels if you will. The one that I was super hot appearing was, for me, the worst performer. The least visually appealing one that I was with was actually the top first time performer in the cama. As for GFE my repeat amiga was of course the best.

    My best suggestion is go out and go with the flow. In this hobby I have found you can't plan for a perfect outing. If it happens it just seems to happen. If it doesn't with one, move on to the next.

  2. #19306

    Would like some info

    Any places in Medellin like Club Help in Rio or Sportsman's / Del Rey in CR where you can meet prepagos in a social setting. Not into the casa scene. Me and mi amigos are looking to party in our apartments. Hablo un poco espanol.

    Or like a girl in Rio told me "of course I speak English, I'm a prostitute! So maybe a little Spanish is OK.

  3. #19305
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.
    I agree which makes it tougher to learn Spanish coming in cold and surrounding yourself with prepagos and taxistas which is what normally what happens. Thanks for all the support and for the guys coming in light on experience or Spanish we're here to give you a hand with tours and Girlfriend experience dates so you don't have to go in cold and unable to communicate. Helped a guy last week before going home to get married see everything from casas to parachute flying and exploring the pueblo called San Feliz! One of the most beautiful places I've explored! If your coming for a short period of time I've got a lot of adventure waiting for you to experience as well as beautiful Girls to plat with and go out and Reggaeton dance with which anyone can do! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooNtILjKQ0.

    Just look up my handle!

    Thanks,

    Colombia Jake.

  4. #19304
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    It looks like you are overthinking this shit. You can not make the next experience better than the last. You can not guarantee that with the same person; you damn sure can't guarantee it with two different people in two different venues. The second rule of mongering is Your Mileage May Vary. Just go have a good time and stop trying to strategize the shit.
    Nailed it. Often results don't match expectations. One of my better experiences was with a woman I never would have picked, except I gave a maybe to her friend the night before. What she lacked in looks she made up for with performance. I've also had 10's turn into 2's when it got down to business.

    There's no way to guarantee what he's looking for, especially on a first trip. On a short trip it's a recipe for disaster. If he tries, for example, streetwalker the first night, casa the second and top shelf escort the third. The streetwalker cheap and no big deal, about as expected. At the casa he picks the wrong girl (s), look good, perform bad, the streetwalker was better. Last night, spends the big money on an escort. She shows up late, in a bad mood, wants to upsells everything, makes him pay more than he spent on either of the other nights and leaves without doing anything.

    Decide what you like, and focus on that. Try for the best time every time. Keep your eyes open for unexpected opportunities. Don't worry about comparing each experience, just enjoy them.

  5. #19303
    Quote Originally Posted by Eszpresszo  [View Original Post]
    I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life.
    It looks like you are overthinking this shit. You can not make the next experience better than the last. You can not guarantee that with the same person; you damn sure can't guarantee it with two different people in two different venues. The second rule of mongering is Your Mileage May Vary. Just go have a good time and stop trying to strategize the shit.

  6. #19302

    No!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Okay now I think this guy is bullshitting us. No guy is going to do girl shit like that. Definitely sounds like something from a 13 year old GIRL. It is really weird to me when women splice our pictures together and send it to me or put it on their whatsapp.
    No, I am definitely not bullshiting any one.

    I just wanted to share my pictures to my Facebook friends and family, with 0 words about her, just with comments about Manizales, Pereira, Salento (etc) what I visited, saw, etc. I think it was completely normal to do that. She shared my album in her own wall for a few hours, with some really nice words towards me. Then deleted it for some reason. She is completely fucked up.

    The Whatsapp things are something else. I did not personally post anything, but she seems to put image / citations etc. That are clearly meant towards me in her Whatsapp Profile page.

    It just pisses me.

    My English isn't perfect, might explain some things.

    I will stick to what I wrote in my previous post and once again, all of your comments are gold. Thanks.

    (And sorry to be a bit trolling the mongering subject.).

  7. #19301
    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    Something that pisses me though, is some facts:

    - I made an album in my Facebook wall, almost only with landscapes, etc, just 2/3 pictures of us. She shared it to her wall writing something like 'A few days full of lessons with an incredible person'. She. Deleted the sharing of the album after like 2 hours!
    Okay now I think this guy is bullshitting us. No guy is going to do girl shit like that. Definitely sounds like something from a 13 year old GIRL. I have been heartbroken before and I have even cried over a woman before. But putting your business out on facebook like that, especially over someone who does not give a rat's ass about you is on a bi*ch level. Also, It is really weird to me when women splice our pictures together and send it to me or put it on their whatsapp.

  8. #19300

    How to progressively UPGRADE on my trip?

    Back to the subject of mongering in Medellin; ya know the good thing about mongering is that you DO NOT have to make an emotional investment in the women.

    I am going to be in Medellin from April 12- April 15 on my first visit. Obviously, not a lot of time, so I want to be efficient with it. The Medellin forum has been awesome to read, not just for the details of the women, but the options on accommodations. I'm delighted at all the options available to the monger, not to mention the low price points for service. The options you guys have mentioned here have been exciting, but I'm not completely clear on how they all rank on a price / quality / value scale. I'm assuming I don't want start Day 1 with an upscale stunning chica, and then start trolling for streetwalker, right?

    I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. But, I think you guys know where I going with this. I await your suggestions. TIA.

  9. #19299
    Quote Originally Posted by BatInTheCity  [View Original Post]
    As the saying goes. If you love her set her free. If she comes back she's yours. I agree you should drop it and chase the millions of other tarts out there. As someone else here said, just see what you can get into. Put your energy into having fun. When I visit these places I just see how much fun I can get into, and whatever happens happens. A short while ago I picked up a chica in sportsman lodge. Ended up liking her and doing several weekend trips to Jaco. But when things got strained in the relationship, I said next. Don't get attached. Just see what you can get into.
    Ordinarily, ID agree with that strategy. But changing partners or avoiding that woman won't solve his problem. For him its like jumping out of one frying pan into another. He still hasnt escaped himself.

  10. #19298

    Thanks and sorry

    Guys,

    Thanks again. I won't send that, yes, I guess, pathetic message.

    Your guys, with cold head, are right, it's pathetic to start blaming things on her etc, it's her life, she does whatever she wants, and yes, she made it clear she didn't want a relation with me.

    I will just not write her anything and. I must admit, hope she will write to me. I will then be cold as hell. Be like 'I am to see someone else tonight, bla bla' and see how things goes. I think it's the only clever thing to do, to let her come to me.

    Something that pisses me though, is some facts:

    - I made an album in my Facebook wall, almost only with landscapes, etc, just 2/3 pictures of us. She shared it to her wall writing something like 'A few days full of lessons with an incredible person'. She. Deleted the sharing of the album after like 2 hours!

    - In her Whatsapp, she puts citations that are, IMHO, clearly aimed at me. Some stuff from Mario Benedetti like 'Maybe he really liked me, who knows, but what is sure is that he had some special ability to hurt me'. She also had an image of a citation saying basically 'what is ours? A complicity, a shared secret, a pact. Not a future marriage or anything. But much more than friendship' .

    - If she really wants it, she will write me. If she does not care, she will not. End of the game.

    I apologize for looking like I didn't read all your clever advices guys. I did.

    Now, it's time to move on. She is not the only one in this planet and, actually, I plan to see a girl almost every night during this week (including one from Bello I have already fucked). This is the best cure.

    Cheers to all of you guys.

  11. #19297

    Let go

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrx2005  [View Original Post]
    Check out Tom Leykis Show. He is a no holds barred radio personality with a shitload of YouTube podcasts that might shock you back into learning to love yourself 1st before you love another. Coach Corey Wayne is another one with a lot of You Tube podcasts that may help you see how you are going in the wrong direction as a man.

    It's seems obvious you are very emotionally attached to that female. You don't know what to do, except go by your impulses. Your impulse is go by your feelings. Which is maintaining the bleeding instead of helping you learn the lesson, and move on. Especially with the intent of never allowing yourself to stoop so low as a man again. Be honest with yourself. What do you expect to accomplish by contacting her? And why shame her for her behavior?

    This is the time for you to take responsibility for your behavior and what you allowed, and for being blind. She's allowed to be as fucked up as she chooses to be. She's not obligated to meet your expectations. You are supposed to know how to carry yourself as an individual, and as a man. And if you missed some lessons in how a man adapts to situations appropriately, its time to recognize this possibility. Good luck.
    As the saying goes. If you love her set her free. If she comes back she's yours. I agree you should drop it and chase the millions of other tarts out there. As someone else here said, just see what you can get into. Put your energy into having fun. When I visit these places I just see how much fun I can get into, and whatever happens happens. A short while ago I picked up a chica in sportsman lodge. Ended up liking her and doing several weekend trips to Jaco. But when things got strained in the relationship, I said next. Don't get attached. Just see what you can get into.

  12. #19296
    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    I really hope that this guy is not playing with you because honestly, you should try to think with rationality, not with passion. He is 36 years old, always lived in Medellin, and he has never been able to find the women of his life? How can you think you could be different for him? How can you think this will finish well? I really hope for you that you won't suffer from this. I really hope you will be strong. Not like the 2 first time you were in love.

    Actually: I really hope that you will stop to be like me! Too passionate in love. Too much sentiments. Too much questions.

    XXX, Yes, I still want to see you so much. But I know you are. Dangerous for me. YES, I miss so much your beautiful smile, I miss to see you laugh, I miss to feel your body next to me. But at the same time, I know you are making me too crazy. XXX, I wish I could be forever your very best friend and be stronger than the risks this involve because as I told you once: [Non-English text deleted by Admin]'.

    I still want to see you but life goes on. I do not want to forget you but if this is what has to happen, it is fine for me. Whatever happen, once again, I hope you find happiness and stability in your life.
    KillArmy, aside from other parts of your post, this is difficult to read. I feel kinda sorry for you. You tell her that she should try to think rationally, not with passion. Something you failed to do for yourself. Then you tell her actually, you wish she would think more like yourself, too passionate. You don't see the masked desperation ooozing out of your words? Pretending to be fine, and dandy with the way things turned out. But broadcasting that you will set everything aside, if she decides to throw you a bone. And giving her all of this information about how you feel about her blah blah blah. Expressing how she manipulated you ect. You don't see anything weak or pathetic about any of this? You don't care about how this makes you look? Not only to her, but to yourself? IMO, the only way you may transform yourself into an aware male is not necessarily to chase women, monger or avoid this woman. You need to get yourself together 1st. Anything else is a distraction from you learning and reinforcing the discipline of manhood.

  13. #19295

    Yes, listen to the Tom Leykis show

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I used to listen to Tom Lykis radio show a lot. He was funny, witty, and he knew quite a bit about women. It looks like he no longer does radio shows. I will check his podcasts. Never heard of Corey Wayne, will check him out. Thanks.
    Tom Leykis still has his show on his website and his app. Google his name or "blow me up Tom". I've been listening to Tom over ten years. Every man needs to, especially guys who are hopeless romantics. It'll save you a lot of pain and you'll learn how to treat a woman and how not to.

    To the guy with the girl problem: you should never cry in front of a girl, you loose all her respect. Remember, girls like to be fucked by he bad boys, eventually they'll settle down with the reliable nice guy to pay their way through life. Who do you want to be? The sucker she settles for or the dude she lusts after?

  14. #19294

    Killarmy

    Are you that big of a fool? You've received a lot of excellent advice from several people. Did you fail to understand? Did you even read any of the advice?

    Nowhere in all of the advice did any say "Go crying and begging to her like a 5 year old boy and then blame everything on her. " Not only is your plan incredibly stupid, it's pathetic.

    This woman gave you very clear signals that she has no interest in a relationship. The only way she could have made it clearer was to scream, "I don't want a relationship with you. " When you tried to force her into a relationship she made it even clearer and just gave you a couple of hand jobs so you would stop crying.

    To make everything worse, you're trying to blame her about a relationship with some other guy, when it's none of your business, because she doesn't want a relationship with you.

    Nothing you do is going to change the obvious fact (repeated again) She Doesn't Want A Relationship With You. However, go ahead with your plan (which sounds like something dreamed up by a 13 year old). It won't accomplish anything, but everyone she fucks for the next 5 years will laugh their ass off when she tells them about you.

    Or, here's an idea. Why not act like an adult, accept your loss and move on? There are 1000's of women in Medellin who will be more than happy to give you something else to think about.

  15. #19293

    How about the benefits of M2

    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDude  [View Original Post]
    I just recently returned from my first trip to Medellin and stayed at the Mansion (M2) which is up a big hill from the M1 the main place. I would suggest to try to stay at M1 because of the hill. Also the girls hang out at the pool and bar at M1. Like you I've always gone to the DR for the last 5 years or so, with many trips to BB and Field of Dreams. I got GFE from all the mansion girls for 150 K (3200/$1), so about $50. It's similar to BB, but the girls have no schedule. So you can have as few as 3 or as many as 20 there. They come in and out as they please. The girls in Medellin are hotter than the DR. Also I usually visited casas in the AM and they are cheap from 45 K to 140 K of the ones we visited. Also Medellin is a modern city unlike the 3rd world DR.
    You listed all the drawbacks of M2, but none of the benefits. You must be a newbie. I prefer M2 over M1. First, the hill is not a big deal and I look at it as my daily exercise. It's correct that more girls hangout at M1 (the Mansion) but someone staying t M2 can go down to M1 anytime. The advantages of M2? Quiet and discreet. Many girls prefer M2 because of that. And M1 can really be noisy, if you get a room close to the bar or close to the pool.

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