Medellin Reports

[DiscoverFL]

I'm coming and going every month on American Airlines and they also require proof that CheckMig has been successfully completed. If I recall correctly I think someone said that Colombia's national airline, Avianca, knows that it's not required and they don't need proof. But I can verify AA requires it every time.

Avianca does check it as part of issuing their paper ticket, but they may be more trusting allowing verbal confirmation. But as of my last flight with them out of Orlando they were asking / inquiring.

[AdamWl]

Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?

Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.

Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.

2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit.

In the room she refuses to take off the top initially, saying what for, since I cannot kiss or touch anyway (hold on, not even touching now? You didn't mention that before) but upon the promise I won't touch and the explanation I just like the view, she takes it off. The view is great, and other than this snag, good session and service.

Later, I inquire about the titties situation.

- What happened since last time? You didn't like it?

- No, it's not that, my jefa forbade it because it wears off the breasts.

- (Jefa? Table that) What if I'd offer more money?

- No, I can't, really, these are the new rules. I don't know. I will have o check.

Why did she even tell her in the first place I wonder, but seeing how she likes to talk I'm not surprised.

- How about your novio? Can he touch?

- I don't have a novio, it's not allowed. (She got a bit sad for a moment).

- And why the different charge today?

- Because you take too long and ask for a lot, most guys finish quickly. (well, I did give her quite a run-through a various positions during the first session).

- You didn't like it?

- I did but it's not up to me.

- OK and how come you have a jefa?

- I signed a 10 year contract.

- WTF?

- Yeah. I will be free at 28. I have to work here.

- In Centro?

- And in the bar. But Centro we don't work often. She charges me 200 mil per client.

- Now here, it makes no sense, chicas here charge about 50 mil everybody knows that, how can she charge you 200?

- I know but she says I'm young and should be charging 200.

- But it makes no sense, you are better off not going to the room, at least you won't owe her anything.

- No, I will still owe her if I don't have clients.

- Can you stop working for her?

- No, I have debts and signed a contract.

Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, or what.

I gave up further questioning for a while trying to process this confusing information. I'm still not sure whether I didn't misunderstand something, it makes no sense, maybe she charges her 200 mil daily (which is still a lot) or she's lying or not explaining it right.

- Do you have any money left for yourself?

- No, nothing left usually, I have debts to pay my jefa. (She chuckled and shrugged with resignation).

- This bar you are working at, you have clients there?

- Yeah, clients and they also have us tested, so don't worry. My jefa is here in Centro and watching with whom I go with and for how long. There are other girls in my group here too that she is watching. That's how things work.

While explaining all this she remained surprisingly positive. Then she sighs and slumps staring at the floor, changing the tone, saying she doesn't want to go out there anymore and got sad. Gave her a hug. She collected herself shortly and put a cheerful face back on.

- Well OK, I would like to stay but have to go out to look for clients, they don't like us go overtime and not working, don't forget about me, hope to see you soon.

Well, with less hurried conversation maybe I would be able to make more sense out of it, I didn't feel like she's lying at all, she tried to explain things, repeated and clarified patiently when I asked, but many things make no sense.

Whatever contract she signed at 18, isn't probably legal and her naivety / ignorance seems to be getting exploited with some made up rules and arbitrary incurred 'debts'. Looks like an organised enterprise. Protective of her breasts sicne it's their 'property' and investment and one of this girl' greatest assets. The nice working clothes are provided to her by them. Accommodation probably too I guess, since she said she pays 100 mil for a month.

Not sure if I should even session with her again if they are going to incur an instant debt for that on her, have to try to clarify that next time I'll see her, since it makes no sense.

[Lucky Nuts]

The former 'murder capital of the world' is now overrun with tourists.

https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/tra...14-p5e4jb.html

[Zeos1]

Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.

Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.

I don't think there has been a staggering increase in foreign visitors. Perhaps someone has government stats though. I would be surprised if it is above 2019 levels again. Perhaps an increase in monger types of visitors, but even that is not clear to me. I go by hotels in Poblado area, etc. And they had a lot lower occupancy when I was there recently than they did in 2019.

[MoonShot]

Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.

Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.

There might be an argument to be made that the crime rate is steady or even lower if measured by crime per thousand visitors. As noted there has been a huge increase in visitors to Colombia. If the number of visitors has gone up 10 x in 5 years But the amount of crime against tourists has gone up 5 x, that is actually a decrease in crime per 1,000 visitors. You would expect more incidents against Taurus given the huge increase in tourists visiting so it's not surprising.

Now, that is not to say the number of tourists being drugged and robbed is not high compared to the numbers in other mongering countries but you need to take a perspective on this. Even if it is, let's say, 50 guys drugged and robbed this year, the number of foreign visitors per month is 500 k or about 6 million visitors each year. So the odds are still low that you would be drugged and robbed But you would still need to be aware of surroundings and take precautions. The type of precautions you should take has been repeated many times on this website and should be followed if you want a safe trip. One big thing you can do is stay at a hotel that requires authentication from the girls and restricts other visitors. Another common theme is guys drinking with the girls. Well the easy way to wear that is don't drink with the girls. Drink with your buddies. Final thought is a lot of the druggings come from guys who are meeting girls on a regular date and not on a pay for play situation. If the girl is way out of your league and seems eager to meet with you on a regular date, you just need to have your guard up. I am always surprised by the number of older average looking guys who think young attractive women are actually interested in dating them as in a boyfriend relationship or a hookup without payment. It may happen but as they always say, if it is too good to be true, it's usually not true.

[Lucky Nuts]

I didn't have any issues filling it out on my computer using Google Chrome. Some guys have complained about it but I think if you just go slowly and double check your entries, it should work. I've been flying Spirit to Medellin and I can tell you that Spirit always ask to see your checkmig confirmation and if you don't have it, they make you fill it out before they will check you in. There were a number of people scrambling to fill out that form as they waited in line. As for people who say that immigration never asked for the paper form, it's on the computer when they enter the passport number. That is why they are not asking you very many questions once they scan your passport. I wouldn't try to fly to Medellin without filling out that form.

I'm coming and going every month on American Airlines and they also require proof that CheckMig has been successfully completed. If I recall correctly I think someone said that Colombia's national airline, Avianca, knows that it's not required and they don't need proof. But I can verify AA requires it every time.

[Lucky Nuts]

Authorities in Medellin, Colombia, have identified the body of a man who was found stabbed multiple times as that of Twin Cities comedian Tou Ger Xiong, who grew up in St. Paul and was known as an advocate for the Hmong community.

Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.

I like that the article gave us some numbers to work with. It said that crime against foreign tourists is on the rise. This year there have been 248 reported thefts and 26 violent deaths.

Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.

[KeviKev68]

Why not bring your own stuff if you have to have something specific, or eat before you get in the plane? No need to test your luck that something you do not want may be on offer.

It was a last minute trip. I packed after I got off work and had to get an Uber to SFO. No time for off site parking lots. I did not have Viagra / Cialis generics on me either but I was lucky to buy some in Lleras Park. I forgot. A can of Pepsi will cost you $3. 42 at SFO Airport.

[TjBrazil]

If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.

[John Gault]

Authorities in Medellin, Colombia, have identified the body of a man who was found stabbed multiple times as that of Twin Cities comedian Tou Ger Xiong, who grew up in St. Paul and was known as an advocate for the Hmong community.

News of his death was carried online Tuesday by the Medellin-based newspaper El Colombiano, which reported that Tou Ger Xiong's body was recovered from the Corcovada ravine in the city's Robledo La Pola neighborhood. He suffered multiple stab wounds and blunt force trauma, according to the newspaper.

A written statement on Tuesday from Eh Xiong, Tou Ger Xiong's brother, described him as a "cherished member of our family, and the pain of his loss is indescribable. We are cooperating fully with law enforcement agencies who are diligently working to investigate this heinous crime. ".

Tou Ger Xiong, 50, a recipient of the prestigious Bush Fellowship in 2019, was a founder of "Hmong Minnesota Day" at the Minnesota State Fair, which draws Hmong visitors by the dozens to a stage led by Hmong cultural and musical acts. Tou Ger Xiong (Courtesy of the Bush Foundation).

A consummate storyteller, performer, motivational speaker and emcee, he hosted an online broadcast, "The Tou Ger Xiong Show," and often reflected on his own experience as a refugee growing up in the St. Paul Public Housing Authority's low-income Dunedin Hi-Rise.

In 2011, he married Andrea Bennett, who would be crowned Mrs. Minnesota International in 2013. The couple filed for divorce in 2019.

El Colombiano reported that Tou Ger Xiong, while on vacation in Medellin, had attempted to meet up with a woman he had met through social media, but was taken captive instead by men who contacted his friends and family by telephone to demand cash. On Monday, authorities confirmed that the kidnappers decided to kill him, possibly in retaliation for trying to escape.

Tou Ger Xiong's body was later found in a wooded area of the Robledo neighborhood with more than a dozen stab wounds and multiple bruises, apparently caused by a 60-foot fall into the tributary.

The newspaper reported that when authorities went to Tou Ger Xiong's apartment, they found a woman removing items from it. Authorities attempted to question her but she ran away.

Citing the city's central office, the newspaper said Tou Ger Xiong's homicide is the 27th violent death of non-migrant foreigners this year in the Aburr Valley region, including homicides, suicides, accidents and narcotic overdoses. In the prior month, three other foreign tourists had been killed, including two Americans.

As of early November, kidnappings in the greater area, known as Antioquia, are up 88% year-over-year.

How in the hell do the cops not catch the girl in the room?

[Oterri]

Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? - The answer is right there in your reply.

1. visitors should avoid movistar and use claro or tigo.

2. Should use a big offcial store (LOS Molinos shopping mall in laureles).

3. do NOT leave the store till you have ensured that store has registered the imei or you have downloaded the required app or know which web site to use for self registration.

Many, like me, visit just for a week or even 2-3 days and don't get the warning or ignore it.

No one has clarified the above before, hence the problems.

Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? Seems like every couple months someone posts about this.

Everytime you buy a new phone or bring in a phone from out of country you have to register the IMEI of said phone. Not sure about Movistar but with Tigo and Claro you can do this yourself within the miTigo or mi Claro app.

It is a relatively simple process that asks for your cedula number if you are a citizen or passport number if you are a foreigner. There is no need to have someone from the cell phone store do it for you and there is no need to keep buying a new sim card every few months. I have had the same Tigo sim card now since early 2022 and I have used it in various different phones.

I believe there is a grace period of like 25 days from the date that you first use the phone (whether as a newly purchased phone or as a phone you brought into Colombia from el extrajero) to register the phone before it is IMEI blocked for not registering it.

Atleast with Tigo and Claro they will send you warning messages during these 25 days telling you to register the IMEI not sure about Movistar.

[Yuvaraj]

Thanks for this info. Do you know if we can get delay sprays like Promecent? Even if it is same price as US not having to bring will be easier.

One exception to that is Dapoxetine, marketed as Priligy, a medication used for the treatment of premature ejaculation. For some reason it is not approved in Colombia and thus not available in country. If someone needs it, best they bring their own prescription. I discovered this helping someone at the Mansion who was trying to find it, and we discovered that you can't get it in Colombia.

[DiscoverFL]

You don't have to bring Viagra to Columbia if you need it. You can buy it at a reasonable price at any pharmacy. Viagra and Cialis The generic versions are available. The price may vary at least for Viagra it's about a dollar a pill. The prices do vary depending on the pharmacy so like anything else, you should shop around if you have time.

If you forgot to bring your prescription drugs, like I did, you can buy it at the pharmacy and it's going to be cheaper but not as cheap as your copay with health insurance. I had miscounted the number of prescription pills that I needed and I was short four pills. They only sold it in a 10 pack and it was $2.20 each pill.

One exception to that is Dapoxetine, marketed as Priligy, a medication used for the treatment of premature ejaculation. For some reason it is not approved in Colombia and thus not available in country. If someone needs it, best they bring their own prescription. I discovered this helping someone at the Mansion who was trying to find it, and we discovered that you can't get it in Colombia.

[MoonShot]

You don't have to bring Viagra to Columbia if you need it. You can buy it at a reasonable price at any pharmacy. Viagra and Cialis The generic versions are available. The price may vary at least for Viagra it's about a dollar a pill. The prices do vary depending on the pharmacy so like anything else, you should shop around if you have time.

If you forgot to bring your prescription drugs, like I did, you can buy it at the pharmacy and it's going to be cheaper but not as cheap as your copay with health insurance. I had miscounted the number of prescription pills that I needed and I was short four pills. They only sold it in a 10 pack and it was $2.20 each pill.

[Knowledge]

Shit happens.

Colombia is getting very dangerous.