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  1. #58589
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay0940  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from my 6th trip to Medellin and, as usual, I can't wait to get back. As is my usual, I did not venture to El Centro. But I managed to see my usual FB girls and found a couple new ones that I will definitely add to my rotation. As my Spanish is ever improving, it's easier and easier to enjoy a few hours with each chica and the performance seemed to improve as well. Also did a day trip with an overnight in Guatupe which I would recommend if you're looking to get away for a day and really relax. Guatupe itself is tiny, but numerous hotels and fincas are around it. Also met up with another board member for a trip to La Isla which was fun.

    Lodging: I primarily stay at Airbnbs in Medellin. Stayed at a cheaper one for the first 2 nights prior to Guatupe, then stayed at Energy Living for the last 3 nights. I'll just say the chicas loved the view from Energy. I was on the 16th floor. The pool had some sights as well, although the weather didn't cooperate much. I don't know if Energy is worth the price they're charging, but I enjoyed staying there.

    Food: Stuck mostly to Poblado. Would recommend Puro Peru for a nice sit down place. The restaurant at Energy was good, but pricey. Plenty of places to choose from if you want to have dinner / drinks with company outside of Lleras. I also liked d'Andre for breakfast. Although the service there continues to be terrible.
    I'm headed to Medellin from the US for my first visit mid December for 5 nights.

    How do you find these women on FB?

    If I search for Medellin, FB is looking for names that contain Medellin.

    My plan is to just find some street action in el center or parquet Llera but having FB to find a dinner companion would be nice.

    BBJCIM / BBFS is what I'm after.

  2. #58588
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesPearle  [View Original Post]
    About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.

    After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!

    Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.

    Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.

    Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.

    Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.
    What part of Medellin were you in? I'm glad you didn't get hurt.

  3. #58587

    Almost died. Be careful

    About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.

    After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!

    Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.

    Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.

    Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.

    Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.

  4. #58586

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
    This is false. Link us to one credible account where someone was drugged in a Medellin strip club. And in such a case where it was clearly done by staff. These are stationary, not hit and run operations, and do not thrive by posioning the customers. You are right about the casas but they are in the same class of places as the strip clubs.

    P.S. I just did a youtube search on this, found nothing. But in the process did find one of some morons "making it rain" in Colombia. Word up guys, you aren't a playa, you aren't Floyd Mayweather, you are a regular guy like everyone else here so no one is impressed. Save it for the states, but next time man up and do 20's or 100's.

  5. #58585
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
    Gustos is not a Strip Club.

    And your statement about strips clubs is generally not true either.

    Your comment about the real value in Medellin mongering depends on each particular guy and what he considers of value in the game.

    Have you been to Medellin?

  6. #58584

    ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.

    I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.
    OK, this has been discussed ad nauseum many times. You don't understand how the ATMs work. You are getting the Visa Exchange Rate. So, if you go to Davienda and draw out 100 mil (for example) and then go to Colpatria and take out 100 mil and then you go to Banco Pichincha and take out 100 mil all on the same day and of course, if you are offered a bank rate or guaranteed rate or anything of that ilk, you just decline it. You will get 100 mil without a bank charge and it will be the exact same cost in US dollars at each bank.

    If you do the same thing at Servibanca, Bancolombia or BBVA you will get the same exchange rate as above except these banks charge a fee. If you adjust the fee out it will the same cost in US dollars.

    What you didn't understand is that you took out money at Davienda on one day and money from a different bank the next day etc. The exchange rate varies each day. Except for Saturday, Sunday and Monday where the exchange rate will be the same because the Visa Exchange rate set for Saturday doesn't get updated until Tuesday. There is a one day lag between what you see on XE as the mid-market rate and what you will receive at the ATM.

    Here is the good and the bad about Davienda. The good is that at most Davienda cajeros (ATMs) you will be able to take out 2 million pesos in a single transaction. Colpatria only 900 mil pesos at one time. (Although you can make multiple draws). The bad thing is that sometimes Davienda will give you 100 mil notes instead of 50 mil notes. 100 mil notes are hard to use. Many smaller restaurants won't be able to change them, taxis won't be able to change them, some stores depending on their business won't either. They are a pain to use.

    Sorry, I don't mean to criticize you but people here who don't bother to read the forum, should know how the ATMs work relative to the exchange rates. Your explanation simply isn't correct.

  7. #58583
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    You can hang around the bar and chat up the girls at Zandaly and Aventura. Both have stripper poles as well.
    I'm a fan of the casas as well, and of Zandalay in particular. But I was just posting to question MiamiSammy's offhand dismissal of strip clubs as "dangerous" and "rip offs", not to assert their superiority over other mongering venues. And, as you write, a few casas have bars where one can hang out and strip poles in some rooms. But, that said, if, before opting to take a (based on looks) promising chica to a room, you want to test the vibe during a half hour or so of flirtatious chit chat/lap dancing over drinks or, in effect, have her audition for you by twerking and stripping on stage for 15 minutes or by sensuously entwining herself on an overhead strip pole, there's no real comparison between a casa and a strip club. Casa / strip clubs: they each have their distinct charms as locales in which to scout and frolic with willing Paisas.

  8. #58582
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    I have been to every Spanish speaking country in South Amrica, including Per three times. Per is my least favorite, followed closely by Chile. Per I always get the raging shits no matter what I do, and it can be very sketchy. Whereas, Chile (I am there now on visit #6) just bores the snot out of me. And Lima has some good hookers at times but I still can't stand it. If Per is your choice, check out Trujillo.
    Main reason to go to Peru is Machu Picchu and Cuzco which is about as close to a must-see as you can get. Lima has an ok mongering scene, but you don't generally go to Peru to hang out in Lima only.

  9. #58581
    I'm glad that worked out for you. I think the ATM vs casa de cambio question was settled at long last a good 5 years ago. That's the last time I remember a back-and-forth thread with guys rationalizing the always worse deal the cambios give. There is a reason after all that you have to pass the airport cambio windows before you get to ATMs. They are sort of a litmus test for who is a first time visitor.

    I have another public service announcement. Rappi has begun hedging the peso devaluation. Twice this week when I submitted a foreign issued credit card for payment Rappi returned a foreign currency amount with a note saying "we notify you the foreign currency amount of your transaction is XX. XX. " When I checked the conversion rate it was about 4500. You have to decline that rate by paying cash or using a Colombian issued card. It pisses me off because Rappi already assess a delivery fee and a service fee with every transaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.

    I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.

  10. #58580
    You can hang around the bar and chat up the girls at Zandaly and Aventura. Both have stripper poles as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by NilAdmirari  [View Original Post]
    To piggyback on Mtndew704's reply to your post, what personal experience or other evidence do you have that strip clubs are dangerous? Sure, when alone with a chica, watch one's drink--and, if you have to go for a leak, take your glass with you--the same as you would with a FB girl in your apartment, at least for the first visit or two.

    And, before you scare off the new BMs in town from a decent mongering option, what's your definition of a "ripoff"? I'm asking as someone who (although he doesn't particularly enjoy hanging out at strip clubs), has had excellent luck from time to time over a number of years in finding a gem of a chica in such clubs ranging from (towards the lower end) Barre Ejecutiva and Conejitos in El Centro to (towards the upper end) Luna Lunera and Fase II: Among them, a number who have joined my stable of regulars (leisurely visits to my apartment with enthusiastic GFE style service-BBBJ, DFK, at times BBFS) for the 150 k to 250 k fee that seems pretty standard these days.

    Moreover, in contrast to the casas, in the El Centro clubs one can leisurely check out the talent and hang out with a chica over a cheap beer (and with no cover charge) before deciding to head with her to a room or just to collect a WhatsApp number. And turning to the upper-end strip clubs, some guys no doubt find paying the entry fees (10 k to 50 k at the high-end, La Isla--just $5 to $10 or so US for god's sake) a reasonable enough price to pay for the classier ambiance, better quality strip-shows, and larger selection of chicas, all dolled up (a turn-on for some guys; irrelevant to others), and with the increased possibility (when compared with casas, SWs, and El Centro clubs) of finding a genuine beauty or two on most visits. And I've had some of my best sex with the most sensually acrobatic stars of the strip pole after having seen them audition on the stage.

  11. #58579

    Trip Report 10/18-10/24

    Just got back from my 6th trip to Medellin and, as usual, I can't wait to get back. As is my usual, I did not venture to El Centro. But I managed to see my usual FB girls and found a couple new ones that I will definitely add to my rotation. As my Spanish is ever improving, it's easier and easier to enjoy a few hours with each chica and the performance seemed to improve as well. Also did a day trip with an overnight in Guatupe which I would recommend if you're looking to get away for a day and really relax. Guatupe itself is tiny, but numerous hotels and fincas are around it. Also met up with another board member for a trip to La Isla which was fun.

    Lodging: I primarily stay at Airbnbs in Medellin. Stayed at a cheaper one for the first 2 nights prior to Guatupe, then stayed at Energy Living for the last 3 nights. I'll just say the chicas loved the view from Energy. I was on the 16th floor. The pool had some sights as well, although the weather didn't cooperate much. I don't know if Energy is worth the price they're charging, but I enjoyed staying there.

    Food: Stuck mostly to Poblado. Would recommend Puro Peru for a nice sit down place. The restaurant at Energy was good, but pricey. Plenty of places to choose from if you want to have dinner / drinks with company outside of Lleras. I also liked d'Andre for breakfast. Although the service there continues to be terrible.

    Chicas: I've got a decent FB list. Did my regulars the first few night. I had brought some little presents (panties, dresses, tops) and all were appreciated. This was usually followed by a long and satisfying night together. Went to a couple bars / clubs. Then a day trip with another regular (non P4P) to Guatupe. Once I hit Energy, just posted some pictures of where I was and got about 30 messages over the next hour. Whittled It down to 4-6 I wanted to meet and then started scheduling. Just know that every chica will be anywhere from 30-60 minutes late and schedule accordingly. FB chicas we're all 200 k, mas taxi. Most didn't even bring up cost prior to coming over.

    Once they're over, have some Smirnoff Ice (Green Apple) or Coronas, turn on some music, and within an 20-30 minutes you are good to go. No problems with BBBJ and all but 1 was down for BBFS. I'the say each was a 6-8, but looks are subjective for everyone. After Round 2.it was either off to dinner or lunch with a chica. Or she was ready to go meet up with her friends. Only advice I have is to not get too hung up on timeliness with chicas or being possessive. They're not going to show up on time, just accept it. But, if she's having fun, she will stay longer and leave when she feels like it. And they all have "friends" or some Colombian boyfriend. I try to stay away from the ones with pictures of bfs on FB.

    Cost: My flight was about $650 round trip, lodging was another $500 ($115/ night at Energy) and I spent about another $800 while down there on activities. All in all. Not bad. I did go to La Isla again, which is a bit pricier. Items were a bit more expensive than last time, but with the dollar being so strong, it made up for this. I used my Schwab account so no withdrawal fees. I just remembered to decline the conversion every time. Happy Hunting all!!

  12. #58578

    In Defense of Strip Clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
    To piggyback on Mtndew704's reply to your post, what personal experience or other evidence do you have that strip clubs are dangerous? Sure, when alone with a chica, watch one's drink--and, if you have to go for a leak, take your glass with you--the same as you would with a FB girl in your apartment, at least for the first visit or two.

    And, before you scare off the new BMs in town from a decent mongering option, what's your definition of a "ripoff"? I'm asking as someone who (although he doesn't particularly enjoy hanging out at strip clubs), has had excellent luck from time to time over a number of years in finding a gem of a chica in such clubs ranging from (towards the lower end) Barre Ejecutiva and Conejitos in El Centro to (towards the upper end) Luna Lunera and Fase II: Among them, a number who have joined my stable of regulars (leisurely visits to my apartment with enthusiastic GFE style service-BBBJ, DFK, at times BBFS) for the 150 k to 250 k fee that seems pretty standard these days.

    Moreover, in contrast to the casas, in the El Centro clubs one can leisurely check out the talent and hang out with a chica over a cheap beer (and with no cover charge) before deciding to head with her to a room or just to collect a WhatsApp number. And turning to the upper-end strip clubs, some guys no doubt find paying the entry fees (10 k to 50 k at the high-end, La Isla--just $5 to $10 or so US for god's sake) a reasonable enough price to pay for the classier ambiance, better quality strip-shows, and larger selection of chicas, all dolled up (a turn-on for some guys; irrelevant to others), and with the increased possibility (when compared with casas, SWs, and El Centro clubs) of finding a genuine beauty or two on most visits. And I've had some of my best sex with the most sensually acrobatic stars of the strip pole after having seen them audition on the stage.

    A final caveat: I'd agree with those who lament the prevalence in the higher-priced clubs of silicon boobs and butts, often absurdly cantilevered, and that the majority of the chicas are not anything more special in terms of looks than one finds in the casas, cheaper clubs, on the street in Parque Lleras, and some would argue (not me so far in my experience) walking around Plaza Botero and Avenida de Greiff/Raudal. The major difference (despite the gowns, cleavage, and makeup) is that at La Isla and Fase II one has some chance (not every visit) of spotting the drop-dead, gorgeous stunner that you would never (or, at best, rarely if ever) be able to spy and take to bed from another of the mongering venues.

  13. #58577

    ATM experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I took one for the team today and made a couple of test withdrawals from my usual Davivienda ATM. The ATM behaved as always. It offered a conversion rate of 4500 or so that I declined. The conversion rate for my withdrawal worked out to 4821. As a further test, I tried a second withdrawal from an account with an insufficient balance. The ATM returned the expected insufficient balance notification.
    I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.

    I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.

  14. #58576
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtndew704  [View Original Post]
    I'd be curious to see the quality you are getting for 400 k TLN + taxi from Gustos.
    So am I. I've seen ugly vennies turn down 150 usd. Lmao.

    But if it works for him, who cares.

    And on a Saturday night normally it's wall to wall packed almost like Delirium in Cartagena.

  15. #58575
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
    Why not get a drink elsewhere and just go to the strip clubs for the girls?

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