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  1. #47590

    Takes some guts to write what you did

    I appreciate your frank candor and that you did not try to pad you results and experiences. I believe there are more guys in your situation than we here about. My wish for you is that you feel great about your experiences in Medellin. For me, it's my Happy Place and has exceeded all my expectations. I have stopped waiting for the bubble to burst or the axe to fall because things have gone well for me for awhile now. No matter what happens I can look in the mirror without any regrets, and if I die tomorrow, I die a happy man. Now, back to you (By the way, I am sarcastic, attention whoring, asshole and I will never change). The fucking auto editor here sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Regnom3000  [View Original Post]
    She takes me to the room and I tell her I'd rather skip the massage part and just make out for a bit. We start kissing a little and I can tell she's not super into it (and to be fair, if I was fucking for 8 hours a day I probably wouldn't be either).

    As we're both dressing and getting ready to leave I talk to her about the splits she has with the casa. I tell her I'd be down to pay her double what they do if she'll do house calls. She said she normally doesn't do that but maybe in the future. I take her number.
    First off, this is not the girl to be following up with for your more warm and fuzzy repeat date back at your hotel. Don't make excuses for her performance, that's entirely counter-productive. Empathy is good, but don't show sympathy, and don't take on any chica as a reclamataion project. Plus, I bet you $100 bucks she would be a no-show.

    The girl who you pick for that should have rocked your world, knocked your socks off, and made you believe you were the best fuck she had that week (LOL) even though we know they are Oscar worthy actresses. Sounds like you did not run across a girl like that, and you chose the tallest midget in the room, but IMO you are setting yourself up for more disasspointment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Regnom3000  [View Original Post]
    To wrap this whole thing up I got questions for y'all. Do I try to hire Mel out and give it another shot? Do I try another casa / escort and see if the experience is better? Or stick with non-pros and see if I can find one that's down for something casual?

    In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

    Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.
    I think a guy like you needs a mix of prepagos and non-pros. Somewhere betwixt and between you will find what you are looking for, probably when you least expect it. I read that back and it sort of sounds like a nebulous, bullshit answer, but that's the playing field when you are the kind of mongerer who wants more than a wet mudhole to fuck. I am similar, and you desrribed one of my typical dates. Sometimes we also go out. If it's end of the day then she might sleep over and we fuck again in the morning. A couple of them I can't get rid of and I have to kick them out. 80-90% of my encounters are with the same 12+ chicas. I like to always introduce a little new blood to keep thing interesting and the rest of the girls on their toes. Half of them fuck me for "free" and others I pay a flat rate no matter how long they stay. Free is in quotes because we all pay one way or another, and I would point out that the average American marriage is the most expensive way to roll, , especially after a divorce. Everything I spend in Medellin is a small fraction compared to what I would be spending in the USA.

    Your dilemma, like most problems on this planet, can be solved or at least dramatically improved with two things, time and money.

    I may not be the guy to listen to for advice here because I don't have any social media accounts, I have never set foot in Poblado, and I haven't been to 90% of the "spots" discussed on this board. What I don't see discussed here much and I consider the Holy Grail of building a list of go-to girls is personal referrals from the girls you already fucked and liked. Tell them they can hand out your number or even bring a girl over, whatever. Your number will get spread around faster than you realize. The start is slow, but thanks to the math of geometric expansion, a person telling a person, telling a person, the numbers quickly grow to more than you will need.

    To keep it under control, always ask any chica who contacts you, from whom did they get your number? I use Whassap for all this. That's how I do 98% of my communications with Colombianas. Is Whassapp considered social media, IDK? Ask her to send a foto. After she sends face and body shot, ask for a pussy pic but don't pay for it unless she is so beautiful that it motivates you. I have never paid for fotos but in the right spot at the right I would do it. I used to exclude girls who would not send a free pussy pic, but then I got fat and happy with more great chicas than I needed, so I relaxed that rule.

    To quote a fellow mongerer Orgasmico, "Everything is negotiable. Success depends on you. No one can tell you how successful you will be".

    I have one question for you. Will you return?

  2. #47589

    80 lbs I wish -

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    120 lb pack? GTFO. 80 lb? Sure. 120? GTFO.
    I said equipment which includes more than just the pack. Our packs were between 90 and 100 easy. Then you have add everything else. We were a rapid deploy Ultra light Infantry unit (they were later reorganized as Stryker units) designed to rapidly deploy to the jungle of central America because the Soviets had their fingers in so many pies down there. Operation Golden Pheasant, after I was out, was their only deployment to Central America for that purpose (then the Panama Invasion later on) . Being "Ultra Light" meant very few vehicles to carry supplies,.

    https://apnews.com/article/c5fd21a52e9dc6cedecfda27757ad016

    That is why I say I didn't just say pack I said equipment so for example I was an M60 gunner for a couple of years, so add the M60 Machine gun, a spare barrel (ultra light infantry had no assistant gunners) and then add the ammo and you are already up to about 40 lbs, now lets not forget starlight scope for the M60 and tripod with TO&E (pintle, traverse bar) for setting up night time defense position we had no truck mounted mortars, we did not even have weapons platoons, we had all the 60 mm mortars divided into the rifle platoons, so all that has to be split up and carried also, tube, baseplate, rounds etc, now lets throw on a 120 foot rappelling rope, throw on a few claymores, - our M / O when running team or squad size missions was to sleep under some brush in a circle with all our heads pointed in toward the center of the clock, one guy in the center on watch with all the triggers for a perimeter of claymores set up around us. We also were trained to use the claymore for a hasty ambush so everyone carried a few.

    Four frag grenades, ammo for the. 45 (yes I am that old) 4 liter water bladder (because you have to stay hydrated in the jungle,) machete, Often when gearing up to march it was easier just to have two guys hold the rucksack while you slipped your arms through the straps. For in case we did get in a situation where we might have to do need to dig fighting positions an E-Tool is not always going to cut it so every other guy carried the pick-axe head and ever other guy carried the handle. Then of course you have our other "etc" stuff that each squad leader is going to split up between each person, like smoke grenades, white phosphorus grenades, a folding litter for carrying out wounded, after close to 40 years that is all I can remember (LOL) but I do not forget the weight of it all.

  3. #47588
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.
    Some women prefer to be independent, not all of them want to be totally dependent on a guy who funds their lifestyle & most likely controls their life as well.

    BTW, there's no such thing as a universal 8 and above, different parts of the world have different beauty standards.

    Let's be completely honest even though it's uncomfortable, men of European descent have the most $ and women who conform to those standards will always make the most $. If a woman is slim or even skinny, tall & have blonde hair and blue eyes she will net the most money as that's what affluent causasian men desire the most so they will spend the most on such a woman but not all men think this is the pinnacle of beauty as I rarely find most "models" attractive personally.

    If you're into petite, curvy women you will be able to get with many 7-8's in Medellin and find many of them in El Centro, it all depends on what you find attractive.

    P. s I found the hottest Colombian women in Panama City Panama but they were more expensive than in Medellin and didn't provide as good of a service. Even then I found dime pieces for low prices; I had a Becky G look alike in Panama for $54/ HR & for $25 for 20 mins in La Gruta Azul I had a 5 ft tall woman with the one of the best bodies I've ever seen in my life, slim in all the right places and curvy in all the right places, completely natural as well but sadly both were terrible lays.

  4. #47587
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Bullshit. They sell their bodies because they can make a shitload of money for little effort. The girls in El Centro have little choice, but most of the prepagos and Lleras girls have other jobs, often paraprofessionals.
    Ok let me rephrase. For their living standards they don't have to sell their bodies but most choose to.

    The money is just too good to turn down.

    But I disagree that most Lleras girls and upper class prepagos have other jobs. While I think some do the top notch girls stay traveling on another guys dime. When they're home they try to act like they're someone important like a social media influencer taking care of their household while it's just another way to meet the next big spender. The smart ones do invest their money in trying to make more but very few do this.

    The money for the high end girls is very addicting.

    But don't get it twisted at some point they need to sell their bodies to maintain their lifestyle.

  5. #47586
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.
    Bullshit. They sell their bodies because they can make a shitload of money for little effort. The girls in El Centro have little choice, but most of the prepagos and Lleras girls have other jobs, often paraprofessionals.

  6. #47585

    How to not get locked out of Rappi

    Quick tip for Rappi with a credit card: be sure to select the option that they give you verify the card. They will do a trial charge on your card, and you need to go to your bank's website to verify the trial amount Rappi charges your card. Happens in seconds.

    Was able to go a few days with my main card, but they cut me off the next day and told me to verify the card. Since I did not verify it at the very beginning (they were not doing this last time I was here in 2019, plus I did not remember the app asking me to) I was not able to enter the trial charge later (the app will just keep giving you an error message).

    Luckily I had more than one CC and just entered the other card AND verified the card with Rappi right then and there. Again, you will need to be able to go to your bank's website and input the trial charge Rappi puts on your card. I recommend using your laptop.

    As for the other card they put on hold: you cannot delete the card while you have an order in progress (I had one in and another order I was trying to get going. That's when I got cut off). Just wait about a day or so, then delete the card from Rappi. After that, you can add it again, but be sure to verify the card with Rappi immediately after adding the card.

    Hope this helps folks avoid this problem in the future!

  7. #47584

    Old Benjamin Franklin Weighs In

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I believe once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes are off, it can be hard to distinguish between a higher end girl, and a lower end girl. Regardless of what I have said, everybody rolls different here, with no way being the right way.
    For sure, to each his own when it comes to mode of mongering. For me, in culling for chicas, the essentials do include true beauty in face and figure, some hard to define but "know-it-when-you see-it", overt sexuality, and a playful, flirtatious personality—and my being prepared to pay some premium for the above if / when need be.

    That said, for those of you who, like Surfer500, reside in the "they all look the same in the dark" camp, you will find confirmation in Benjamin Franklin's 1745 "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" in which he recommends preferring an older woman to a younger one. To quote:

    The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. Ben also notes that the advantages include better conversation, less risk of unwanted pregnancy, and "greater prudence in conducting an intrigue."

  8. #47583
    Yep, any guy claiming they are banging multiple 8's and above on a short trip is lying, especially for $100 or less. There are destinations where you can get those kinds of girls, but it will be big money. You can have those type of girls, but it will be $300-500 minimum.

  9. #47582
    Quote Originally Posted by Regnom3000  [View Original Post]
    In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

    Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.
    I think Facebook is what you need but it takes time. Follow this link to get started. It will be worth buying the membership so others can give you more contacts to speed it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Facebook  [View Original Post]
    Try these as the starting point to build your list.
    If you don't have time, you can go to La Isla. The price is high but it is fixed if you have sex on site. You just need to negotiate service with the girl. You can pay by credit card. You can search for words "Lleras" or "Gusto" here to find more freelancer information but the prices in these areas can vary greatly.

  10. #47581
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So 9's and 10's don't need to be hookers at all I would surmise from this.
    They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.

  11. #47580
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Nope 9/10's are in a league of there own. They can write there own ticket.
    So 9's and 10's don't need to be hookers at all I would surmise from this.

  12. #47579
    Quote Originally Posted by Daga2222  [View Original Post]
    This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.
    I am like you. I think it has more to do with people and money than age though. I have seen seniors who are picky, and I was as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daga2222  [View Original Post]
    For me, the main appeal of my time mongering in Colombia was being able to fuck a couple of 9's and 10's that normally I would have no chance with.
    Of all the stupid shit I have read on this forum, the worst is that Colombian women really want to hang with their broke ass novios. Daga, you are young, able to get to Colombia and do not think $100 is that much money. Your income potential is in the millions. You are a very high value asset but you have been beaten down by American women and society so much, you do not get what an asset you really are. I repeat. You do not get what a stud you are.

    I almost let my current novia slip through my hands because she was too good to be true: a 10 in looks, a 10 in sex, and the highest sex drive I have ever seen. She fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for a dime.

    She has modeled since age 14, has a job in government, and she has her own money. I do not think she is a unicorn. A friend of mine who I had kept my life hidden from asked about why I travel so much. I broke down and told him everything. I thought he was married, but he is divorced and was thrilled at what I told him.

    I reached out to the 6 best candidates for him after my ending a 2-3 year search, and they all responded. I was kind of like "Uh, why did I give all these women up? But I did. They are wife material.

    So yeah, have your fun and bang the hottest 9's and 10's you can, but the best sex is not with a woman fucking different guys all the time, but the ones who hold themselves back for the men they care about.

    When you pay working girls, you get used to thinking that they are not hot women out there who would fuck you for free, and there are. It takes more work to get them but if you work the cupid sites, seeking.com, and Facebook, you will find one. Mine was in an abusive relationship and secluded herself.

    The fact that you cannot fuck 9's and 10's in the USA sex prison says more about how women have let themselves go, make themselves victims in any situation, and how bad the golden pussy syndrome in the USA sex prison is. Hell, we have 300 lb. Women wearing bikinis on Instagram.

    The value in a site like this is the biggest middle finger men can give to the USA sex prison society and feminism. Take your money and say no to American women. Honestly, there are not many women who produce things of real value. The reason women make so much less than men is they do not work as hard and so many of their jobs are unnecessary. There is no point in arguing about it though. You just go to where it is better.

    I am not saying that is what you have to do right now. Have your fun but do not let it erode your confidence. You do not have to pay to fuck hot women.

  13. #47578
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

    The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.
    10000% agreed here.

    True universal 8's and above have social circles full of men and even women wanting a piece of them. They'll find a way to make big $$. You're never going to see them in centro and casas.

    These girls have the latest iPhones bags cars etc. These are somethings that many mongers don't even have or even afford.

    There are men who come from Dubai and other countries that throw FU money at these girls. I mean tons. Meanwhile they go back home to their wife and kids and just maintain their Colombian novias by sending them 2-3 k usd a month. Just because they can. These girls all look to hit the gringo jackpot. Can you blame them?

    You ever notice a new girl whose drop dead gorgeous comes on the scene? She's never there too long. Someone grabs her up. Whether it's a gringo BF or someone teaches her to make more $$ That's just how it goes.

  14. #47577
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Everything is relative. A 4 in Medellin is an 11 in Toledo.
    Nope 9/10's are in a league of there own. They can write there own ticket.

  15. #47576

    The truth?

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

    The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.
    He's "100% correct?" he said that most of the girls in Centro are fat, which demonstrates that he's spent little or no time in the casas or strip clubs, or that he's simply dishonest. There's also plenty of hot girls in these venues that eat reasonably healthy and do not have substance abuse issues. To assume otherwise is to do so without evidence. Doesn't seem that you've spent much time in Centro either.

    P.S. Your prices are off by quite a bit. In casas it's around $14, strip clubs 25 to 30. Though it can take some hunting around on a given day, eights on a lot of guys scales with the occasional nine are not hard to find. And again they are the same strata one and two "barrio girls" guys pay five to ten times more for in the tourist traps. You may get more makeup and surgery for your money though. But you're right about one thing though, as it's true that these are likely to be harder to handle. Not because they are heathier, classier, or hotter, but because they've been spoiled by tourist money.

    Enjoy gentlemen.

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