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  1. #27317
    Quote Originally Posted by ShawMan74  [View Original Post]
    If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state.
    I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

    The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    Some of you who are Soi 6 regulars will know this girl Tukta. I must have bonked her at least thrice when she used to work at Soi 6. Butterfly Bar if I remember right. I have not seen her in 2 years and it has been over a year that I visited Pattaya. And now she magically pops up at. Hold your breath. Sapphire. Now that is some serious upgrade.
    But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.

  2. #27316

    Real talk

    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.
    Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kafka  [View Original Post]
    I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.
    I understand when something gets played out, and becomes more of a fraud than anything else (thailand, netherlands) but all the talent is in the commercialized / legalized areas. Its a balance. I've learned this the hard way (see my posts in Buenos Aires forum). If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state. This is clearly witnessed in the difference of quality to be found between Cali and medellin. Medellin girls blow Cali out of the water, and the few stunners in Cali usually came from medellin for a reason. Otherwise the real talent goes running to medellin by any means necessary, her gifts / value are wasted in the small towns. HER availability in the first place is courtesy of legalization and her price is wonderful only by dint of the exchange rate.

  3. #27315
    If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.

  4. #27314

    Comments after visiting a few places

    Luna lunera. Go only after 9 pm, otherwise it will only be a waste of time.

    Barra ejevtivo.

    Lots of implants. Only a few will be natural. 9 mil for water, 10 mil for beer. The locals don't even tip the dancers. Foreigners tip 2 mil when dancers come by.

    La Isla.

    High end place. Again lots of implants, rare to find naturals. Even one tips the dancers 2 mil. Dances are really short. Atmosphere is good and isn't too crowded. The staff appears very professional.

  5. #27313
    I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.

  6. #27312

    Barra Ejecutiva and Maracaibo.

    I had a chance to check out these two places last night (Sat). Even though I live in Medellin, I just discovered ISG so they were somehow unknown to me. Bigs up to all who have posted about them previously.

    I started at Maracaibo, and I was impressed with the talent, although it was a little too early, and the ladies were still coming in. I had a drink but the grass is always greener, especially when it's two doors away, so I left to check out Barra Ejecutiva. Again, it was early, around 7:30 (even though I'm younger, that tends to be more my style unless I'm with friends). Nonetheless, there was a ton of talent on display and it kept pouring in. I can't imagine there's not at least an 8 there no matter what your personal scale is. I saw plenty. My plan was to stick around for awhile and drink, but after a couple I was persuaded to session with a stacked chica for 70 K plus 15 K for the room. That seems to be about the going rate. Chica had great energy and agreed to let me fuck her tits without a condom and finish there for an unspecified tip. I had so much fun I splurged for an extra 30 minutes and eventually blasted all over her tits, neck, and hair (oops). She wanted her tip but I was like, no, the extra 30 minutes (of which we used like 10) is the tip, and she accepted that with aplomb.

    Ah, she might not be the brightest bulb in the book, because she mistook me for a Colombiano when she first sat down, which is perhaps the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me.

    My only complaint is one that I've read on this forum before: the room at Barra Ejecutiva was terribly hot. Install AC in one room and charge and extra 15 K for it. Watch how popular it becomes and go from there. Shit.

    (There was no cover at either of these places.).

    I'll certainly return often.

  7. #27311
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas.
    Yeah, man. I checked these out last night and see what you mean. Tons of talent. Going to post a mini-report momentarily.

  8. #27310
    45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawMan74  [View Original Post]
    Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.

    $45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.

    None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.

  9. #27309
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.
    I think some of the staff speak English but most the girls don't I'd guess.

  10. #27308

    Glad you had fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianRider  [View Original Post]
    Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000.
    Sounds like you had a great time. Also thanks for mentioning the PE Museum now I want to check it out. I'll be there in 10 days or so splitting my time between the mansion and a nice condo near Parque Lleras. Thanks for the concise FR.

  11. #27307
    I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manizales911  [View Original Post]
    Bingo. That's the game changer right there.

  12. #27306
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.
    I believe he meant morale was low.

  13. #27305
    I agree with you.

    I use whatsapp and fb messenger communicating with the girls quite a bit before meeting. However, still mongers should be aware what prices can be had for services. Even the prices I pay are way higher than what a colombian would pay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manizales911  [View Original Post]
    Bingo. That's the game changer right there.

  14. #27304

    In re Willi

    Quote Originally Posted by MedellinGringo  [View Original Post]
    Is this the guy that helped you?

    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...epartment.html

    He has good reviews for the normal touristy stuff but I would be interested in knowing how else he helped you with chicks besides taking you to two of the most well know casas in Medellin?
    Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manizales911  [View Original Post]
    The big question is what did he charge for his services?
    $45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.

    Quote Originally Posted by StripperMan  [View Original Post]
    Also, what surcharges if any were charged for drinks & girls at these casas? What notoriously happens in Tijuana and other places is the taxi or guide will take his client to casas, stripclubs, hotels etc, and then go in and request his kickback for bringing the client. The business will gladly pay it because they just charge the client extra for all goods & services.

    This may not have happened in this case because the guide seems to have been paid well. However I wouldn't be surprised if any guide decided to double dip a little.
    None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.

  15. #27303
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the girls at the Mansion are under contract or something and are forced to go there? I would expect the morals of the building to be low seeing that it is a fuckshop.
    Not under contract but an invite. They do get the most money there because it's mainly Americans and we pay more versus local spots. So when they get excited to come there to make good money (for their standard) and cheap for ours those last 5-10 bucks people try to negotiate down is killing the deal for them. It is safer and nicer there but in the end it is a major convenience for us so the amount you pay is worth it versus trying luck at another establishment or in the street. To each their own.

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