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  1. #66281
    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    ...and trust me, I'm not paying 250,300 or more.
    How much are you paying?

  2. #66280
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerFriend  [View Original Post]
    I have never been to Medellin. But I have been to Bogota many times. And Bogota is super nice for hobbying.

    That said, I always assumed Medellin is better. But after RTFFing Medellin posts, it seems like that is not the case. Medellin posts seem to indicate dissatisfaction.

    Also, I have been to Ecuador several times, including clubs like 155, Mosq, etc. And like many have said in these forums, there are Colombians (mostly from Medellin, Armenia, etc.) everywhere. And when I talk to them, they are like, they couldn't wait to get out of Medellin and that there is no money in Medellin.

    This leaves me very confused. How good is Medellin for hobbying?

    Also, are there any good agencies in Medellin? For example, Bogota has several stellar agencies that have dozens of part timers who are awesome!

    I apologize if this is a sensitive topic.
    Medellin is better if you are looking for high quality pros or semi-pros you can meet in person at a club or a bar. The downside to Medellin is that the prices have increased so much in the past year or so that there are very few deals to be found in places that your average tourist wanders. Your "average" girl will now ask 350-400 k and will settle on 300 k. Your real lookers in places like La Isla Club will ask 550-600 k and settle for 450-500 k.

    I don't mind paying 300 k for a tried and proven girl that I know I'll have a good time with. But I don't feel like I'm getting a great deal and it doesn't motivate me to come running back. It is also too high of a price for me to be throwing darts at girls who may or may not work out. So Medellin is not my favorite place to go for an economical lay. Bogota has the advantage there.

    On the other hand, if it's a special occasion or you are looking to splurge a bit, Medellin is probably the spot for you. Because if you show up at the right time and look hard enough, you will find girls that are straight up 9's or higher. And when you do, money will suddenly seem like it's no object to you.

    If you are lucky, she will start off by offering 200 USD. Which at current exchange rates is approaching 800 k. And suddenly, getting her down to 500 k (which she likely will accept) will feel like a bargain to you.

    I'm about as tight as they come, but there are a few women in Medellin that I will gladly pay 500 k to sleep with. And yes, it's worth the flight and hotel to get to them. The one thing Medellin has going for it is that the price for the average street girl has risen so much that you are better off hunting the top of the line for just 200 k more. If guys refused to pay street girls more than 200 k, you'd see prices fall across the board.

    So Medellin is the place I'm going when I am willing to fork out 500 k for the best semi-pro I can find lingering around a bar in Colombia. But I'm sure as hell not negotiating with anyone in US dollars. Any gringo who pulls out a US bill in anything but the most desperate circumstances is only contributing to the problem. If the girl of my dreams is going to turn down 500 k, then she's not the girl of my dreams. The 500 k threshold is my ceiling for even the most beautiful women out there.

    But at 500 k, you have to ask yourself if it's even worth it for multiple reasons. Let's say the girl is everything you hoped for and more and you can't wait to see her again. Now you are faced with shelling out 500 k a pop, because I guarantee you the price isn't going to go down. The alternative is trying to find a cheaper girl, who is now sure to disappoint you after what you just had. So before you agree to the 500 k, think about whether it will really just be a one time thing. Are you really going to be able to resist shelling out 500 k again the next time you are in town? Or the next? And once she has a few guys who will regularly pay that price, I guarantee she won't agree to less than 600 k for the next guy, and her opening offer will be 250 USD. Because she already has plenty of steady income coming in. And then one day, she tells you the new price is 600 k. Or 700 k.

    This is how prices start to spiral. That's why you won't see me pay 500 k for any girl anytime soon. It's just not worth opening that door unless you are prepared to close it. And it is much easier to walk away from the first negotiation than once a beautiful vixen already has her hooks in you. So, if you have to swallow hard before accepting the offer, it's probably better to walk away. Easier said than done, sure. But that is the only way we are going to get prices to drop or at least stabilize. That's my take on Medellin.

    In the meantime, you will find me sprawled on a hotel bed in Bogota, where I am probably being attentively serviced by a young college coed for little more than I planned to spend on dinner that night.

  3. #66279
    Well, they say "don't shit where you eat" and I apply that to mongering. Was once married to a chica from Bogota. My daughter was born there. And still have a lot of former in-laws there. So it's been many moons since I mongered there. I hear Santa Fe is still good. There are other places, but the cost is generally higher than "other places" in Medellin, so it seems. The nice thing about Bogota is that you get girls from all over Colombia.

    That said, I still love Medellin. Granted it's not the same as it was 18 years agon on my first trip or even five years ago. Not quite as easy and girls demanding too much because dummies pay it. I primarily use FB, but it takes work. Because of the amount of time I have been going, I have managed to leverage past relationships into new girls. Friends, family members. So I always have a small stock of non-pros at my disposal or girls who work only occasionally. I don't do lleras. I don't do the high end MPs or strips clubs. I don't do Centro. I am happy with my mix of repeats and new girls. I am not dissatisfied at all, other than with the stupid prices some girls try to pass off on me. I ask up front so as not to waste time.

    If girls in MDE are complaining about not making money, it's probably a combination of lots of competition, the cost they have to pay to stay there if they are from someone else, and poor marketing on their part (hitting the streets of centro, working in a casa, trolling Lleras as opposed to using social media effectively).

    Other observations:

    Weather. Medellin, to me, crushes Bogota. Bogota is too cold.

    Traffic. Not great in Medellin but certainly not nearly as bad as Bogota.

    Nightlife. More options in Bogota.

    Food. Better restaurants in Bogota.

    People. Generally more pleasant in Medellin.

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerFriend  [View Original Post]
    I have never been to Medellin. But I have been to Bogota many times. And Bogota is super nice for hobbying.

    That said, I always assumed Medellin is better. But after RTFFing Medellin posts, it seems like that is not the case. Medellin posts seem to indicate dissatisfaction.

    Also, I have been to Ecuador several times, including clubs like 155, Mosq, etc. And like many have said in these forums, there are Colombians (mostly from Medellin, Armenia, etc.) everywhere. And when I talk to them, they are like, they couldn't wait to get out of Medellin and that there is no money in Medellin.

    This leaves me very confused. How good is Medellin for hobbying?

    Also, are there any good agencies in Medellin? For example, Bogota has several stellar agencies that have dozens of part timers who are awesome!

    I apologize if this is a sensitive topic.

  4. #66278
    Except with pros, I only do BBFS as well. It's usually with girls I have known, non-pros, or referrals (sisters, cousins, friends). I primarily use Facebook (other than referrals) But the difference is that I have never paid a cent extra for BBFS (and trust me, I'm not paying 250,300 or more). In fact, I can't remember the last time any chica asked me for more for BBFS. Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilolo  [View Original Post]
    I practise only BBFS in Colombia. No problem with that! But 90% of the girls I fuck bareback, I meet them on facebook! They all accept, they just ask me usually 100 000 pesos more to fuck them bareback!

  5. #66277

    Medellin vs Bogota

    I have never been to Medellin. But I have been to Bogota many times. And Bogota is super nice for hobbying.

    That said, I always assumed Medellin is better. But after RTFFing Medellin posts, it seems like that is not the case. Medellin posts seem to indicate dissatisfaction.

    Also, I have been to Ecuador several times, including clubs like 155, Mosq, etc. And like many have said in these forums, there are Colombians (mostly from Medellin, Armenia, etc.) everywhere. And when I talk to them, they are like, they couldn't wait to get out of Medellin and that there is no money in Medellin.

    This leaves me very confused. How good is Medellin for hobbying?

    Also, are there any good agencies in Medellin? For example, Bogota has several stellar agencies that have dozens of part timers who are awesome!

    I apologize if this is a sensitive topic.

  6. #66276
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!
    100%, If you are a foreigner, then add to the price of a pusy the price of hotel, air tickets and other expenses. And you will get that you pay much more than in your country for the same staff.

  7. #66275
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!
    Currently with all the dumb money crypto fags there is bound to be a ton of dudes riding the high of having more than 20-30 k in savings for the first time in their lives and throwing it out the window for working girls.

    It is unfortunate that some few bad apples can fuck up the entire ecosystem but it is what it is. As prices increase in Colombia or Thailand for example, hopefully we will find new 3rd world or developing countries to conduct our business for the price of a sandwich xD (I was kinda hoping that would be some African countries, not opposed to pounding some 18 year old chocolate but those countries seem fucked up as well and very scammy).

  8. #66274
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!
    Of course 75-80% or more of the foreigners going to Colombia for the girls aren't on here and consider $100-$150 incredibly cheap. While I don't encourage anyone to pay more than they're comfortable with, your boycott will have absolutely no effect on prices in Parque Lleras.

    Also the price difference isn't as great as it seems. 40-50 k in El Centro gets you 15-30 minutes in a rather low budget room. Many guys report minimal service. However, the quick lay in that environment is exactly what many guys want. And yes, I understand that some guys are getting only 9's and 10's who do everything for much longer, without ever paying for extras.

    Depending on who and where you pull in Lleras, 1 hour or more is typical, services vary. Accommodations are usually wherever you are staying, almost certainly better than the typical El Centro room. This is exactly what some guys want.

    There are also other options, with a wide range of prices. Find your comfort zone and work to literally get the most bang for your buck.

  9. #66273
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    You need to branch out "LOL", instead of paying 100 K more to bareback Fayboo girls, guys I know in Centro are paying as little as 50 to 100 k to bareback and cream pie SW's in Centro. Granted they are not the cream of the crop, but there are some very desperate SW's there.

    And during the Pandemic, I remember a Vennie telling me it would be an "expensive upcharge" for BBFS, all of 5 K.

    I was curious and asked, but didn't partake.

    A couple of guys I know here have been frequenting Occidental Club lately in Centro and have been paying 100 K including the room for BBFS there, albeit I don't know if that included a cream pie finish or leche afuera. LOL.
    You guys don't worry about STD's?

    I'm thinking about mobbing to Columbia, is it relatively safe? I don't speak Spanish.

  10. #66272
    Even though I am a Centro rat I am not necessarily against paying a premium for someone special or for some sort of special convenience. I avoid subjective assessments of girls because there is too much variety in what we prefer to have productive conversations about it. I think most of us will agree there is little convenience in hunting Lleras. So the long and short of it is it's highly unlikely I'm going to be supporting what goes on in Lleras any time soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!

  11. #66271

    Another Gringo scoped in Medellin

    Another American was scoped in Medellin. Luckily he didn't die though he just woke up in the street without any money or his cell phone.

    https://youtu.be/5Hs2Q-20oCg?si=NMGFwUoYWkaOZMyf

    Follow Along.

  12. #66270

    American drugged and robbed in Medellin

    Anybody knows this guy? Another fool who thinks he can play with the devil and win.

    He was wandering the mall so his brain was not functioning.

    He was lucky not OD and died.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-robbed.html

    A LOS Angeles DJ was found at the San Lucas Mall in Medellíand on Sunday morning after he was allegedly drugged and robbed.

    The man, who identified himself as John, told a Good Samaritan that his cell phone, laptop and money had been stolen.

    By ADRY TORRES FOR DAILYMAIL.COM PUBLISHED: 11:59 EDT, 25 March 2024.

    UPDATED: 12:03 EDT, 25 March 2024.

    An American man was rescued by a woman after he was seen wandering at a Medellíand mall after he was allegedly drugged and robbed.

    The victim was seen asking shoppers at the San Lucas Mall on Sunday morning to assist him in contacting his mother back home when a Good Samaritan obliged, El Colombiano newspaper reported.

    The man, who identified as John and a LOS Angeles resident, told the woman he had been robbed of his cell phone, laptop and an undisclosed amount of money.

    The Good Samaritan, who declined to be named in the report, recalled John telling her, 'I am going to tell all my friends not to come to Medellíand. '.

    An American man, who identified himself as John who works as DJ from LOS Angeles, was found allegedly drugged and robbed of him laptop, cell phone and money, and found wandering at a mall in Medellíand, Colombia, on Sunday.

    Police arrived on the scene and registered an incident report and claimed the only friend John had in the area was a tattoo artist in Envigado, six miles southeast of Medellíand.

    Before placing him in an Uber to take him to the friend's home, the woman advised him, 'Please tell everyone, all your friends who come looking for prostitution and drugs, please don't come. '.

    DailyMail.com reached out to the Aburrá Valley Metropolitan Police for comment.

    The alleged robbery is the latest incident in which tourists in Medellíand have fallen victims to crimes in which they were drugged before they were either robbed or killed.

    At least 13 foreigners have died in Medellíand in the first two months of 2024 after 30 deaths were reported in all of last year. Eight Americans in Medellíand between November 1 and December 31,2023.

    Community activist and comedian Tou Ger Xiong is one of eight Americans died from alleged drug overdoses or were killed after they were lured by people they met on dating apps in Medellíand, Colombia between November 1 and December 31,2023. The 50-year-old was found dead December 11, after going out with a 19-year-old woman he previously met on an app.

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    Community activist and comedian Tou Ger Xiong is one of eight Americans died from alleged drug overdoses or were killed after they were lured by people they met on dating apps in Medellíand, Colombia between November 1 and December 31,2023. The 50-year-old was found dead December 11, after going out with a 19-year-old woman he previously met on an app.

    In January, Medellíand cops arrested Sharit Mejía and two men for the December murder of American community activist and comedian Tou Ger Xiong.

    In response, the United States Embassy in Colombia warned travelers about the use of dating apps.

    The embassy indicated that several of the deaths pointed to 'possible drugging, robbery, and overdose and several involve the use of online dating applications. '.

    The embassy advised also American visitors that they should 'strongly consider meeting only in public places and avoiding isolated locations, such as residences or hotel rooms, where crimes are most likely to occur. '.

    'It is also recommended that if Americans decide to invite a person they met to a home or hotel, they speak to the 'attendant / concierge beforehand and establish a policy as to what information your new visitor should provide before being authorized entry (photo of identification, etc.) and what process should be followed when your visitor departs,' the mission said.
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  13. #66269
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!
    Also I'd say like 90% of them are Venezuelans not Colombianas.

  14. #66268
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!
    I'm not saying that, I'm saying just don't go to lleras go to Botero or the casas in Centro instead.

  15. #66267

    We Should Refuse To Pay Higher Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    It's crazy how Botero is like 40 k to 50 k but yet Lleras is so much more. If we all got together and striked and nobody went to Lleras for a week I bet they would have to come down on price since the local parceros aren't going to be paying no 600 mil.
    Agree. We should all refuse to pay such ridiculous higher rates. We can all fuck the same type of Colombians at rates well under 400,000 in much safer destinations like Costa Rica and Panama (not to mention even Canada) without risking our safety in Colombia. Just learn to say NO!

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