Medellin Reports

[Midwest]

Come on man, if you're not bright enough to clear that up beforehand, stay home.

Geeeez.

Give the guy a break.

Maybe "not bright enough" is a bit strong. I'd say uninitiated.

When you ask "cuanto" (how much), I can see Chicas simply responding "tres cientos" (three hundred).

The next thing out of your mouth should be "tres cientos mil pesos?" especially if you're at Gustos or La Isla & you're thinking with the little head. If you're talking with a casa or street girl, even if she meant 300 k COP, she better be quoting her weekly rate.

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[WindAngel]

You are worrying about nothing. If they do not know how to say another word in English, they definitely know how to say dollars!

I think a member reported something similar happened to him. I just raise the amount to see what people will respond to make a point. So far, none have said to pay 300 USD.

[Mr Enternational]

Not quite sure what you mean by non-pros but if they're sucking your dick and you're giving them money for it, it generally means they're hookers. Maybe you meant less-jaded ones that do not advertise their services / are in casas / are in the street? Or are you picking up genuine girls in malls and at the gym?

Non-pro. Non-prostitute. Normal chicks that there is no need to give money to.

Wednesday was my last day in Bogota, so I went to a certain mall where I like to have my nails done. I really did not say anything to this chick the entire time. When she finished she asked for my name because she was writing the bill out for the cashier. When she tore out the paper to take it to the cashier I told her I thought you were writing your number for me. She said huh? Then she started writing it down. I got my phone and copied it into my phone to send her a message on whatsapp. I told her that I was leaving the next morning but I would be back soon and we could go out or whatever. She said that would be fine. I left because I had to go meet my nurse chick at another mall.

On the way out I stopped by a burrito place. I was waiting on my food when I noticed the chick from the nail shop across at the other register having already ordered food as well. I said hey what are you doing here? Why you did not tell me your were coming? She said she had not eaten all day and came to get a quick arepa. I said you should have said something and I would have treated you. I told her that we at least need to eat together if we are going to be boyfriend and girlfriend.

While we were eating we were talking getting to know each other. I asked what she liked to do and she said she didn't get much time to do anything because she works from 9 am to 9 pm. I asked how much she makes and she told me that she gets 4,000 pesos for manicure and 6,000 pesos for pedicure. My bill was 42,000, so she only got 10,000 of that. Then I asked who she lived with. She said her husband and kids. I told her if she don't scream, then I won't holler! So I guess that I will see her soon.

[WindAngel]

If you didn't clarify it with her first, then it's your mistake. If a girl at Gusto tells you "tres cientos", the proper response is "pesos?

Yes, I know only because I read other member's telling their experience. There are people that don't know Spanish very well. I will be too excited to understand the number girl are telling me, and I would never respond with "peso" if I have not read about other member's experience before.

Common sense says that you clear up any confusion before there's a problem. You clearly already know that it's possible the girl means dollars and not pesos. Why would you take her to the elevator, without making sure you're both talking the same currency?

OK, this is where we read PN's post differently. I think he said "negotiated" so he is expecting girl to deliver agreed services. Usually if you can show or tell girl that she agreed, they will do it but they may do it badly. In the case of bad service, I will pay but in the case of non service, I will not pay unless her cousins are already in the room, ha ha, this acutely happened to me once in US. PN does not spell out detail but I think he said paying girl 20 K to get rid of her in one post so I don't think he said not paying completely. 20 K to Centro girl is a reasonable amount, relatively speaking. And how much you pay to get rid of girl is situation dependent.

It is not that I am brave or anything like that. It is because I have been scammed too many times so I learned to stand up for myself. Without getting into detail, I will just use a KTV example. The first time I was scammed, it was like sex sitting on a bench, girl with clothes on sitting on you in reverse cow girl until you finish. They also wanted to charge me for the room after I paid. I had no money left so I got room free. The next time, I demanded to see the girl naked, free room before I paid and was promised no reverse cow girl. When in the room, the girl offered a second girl for $15 more just to extract money from me. Then next time, I asked girl get naked, and kissed before I handed over the money.

Most recently last month, I was lured in because they have a bait that is a 9+, but after sitting with me for a short while, they wanted to give me a girl I didn't want. I learned from my experience so they had not got my money yet. It was entertaining to see they try to offer different girls, like cousins, room mates, in order to get my money. It was Chinese New Year eve so none of the girls were available. I had agreed to pay about 70 USD for full services with many conditions attached. They promised it would be free if I was not happy. In the end, I had a big verbal fight with them, and I offered and paid 35 USD to cover the girls I don't want come sitting with me, drinks, room, snack, to leave. I should not even have to pay the 35 USD. These are places controlled by organized crime so you need to know how to carry yourself and fluent in local language to deal with any confrontation.

What I am saying is, go to Bangkok and pick up random street girls, it is very likely you will pick up a ladyboy, the first time you maybe nice about it and give a tip for her to leave, but by the fifth time, what will be your reaction, still give her the same tip amount or no tip at all?

Just a side note, many Chinese villages are named by last name. The gangs are named by last names. It often was two last names fighting when I saw two gangs fighting in my youth. If I walked on street and stared the wrong people unintentionally, I would got beaten right there. A friend who was 185 cm, very tall by Chinese standard, once told me that people were scared of him because of his height and look but he said to me what others did not know was that he was also scared but he learned not to show it.

[Mr Enternational]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

You are worrying about nothing. If they do not know how to say another word in English, they definitely know how to say dollars!

[Balboa]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

Come on man, if you're not bright enough to clear that up beforehand, stay home.

Geeeez.

[JjBee62]

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful..

I guess the specific girl reports depends on which end of the pool you're swimming in. There are 40 or 50 very well known chicas that work the gringo market pretty hard. Many are current, or former Mansion regulars, many speak a bit of English and they tend to be higher volume and reasonably consistent performers. With these girls you can read the reviews and have a good idea what a session will be like.

My preference, if I'm not hitting a casa is to find the lower volume girls, who see a gringo as someone different. My experience with them is that it's very unpredictable.

I had the chance to compare notes with a lot of guys. One instance was at a party. About 75 girls and 50-60 gringos. One guy was just collecting numbers, so I pointed out a girl and asked if he had gotten her number. He told me he'd been with her before and she was a starfish, only CBJ, rushed him, wouldn't kiss. Just not worth talking to. However, I'd been with her. We had a session that lasted over 2 hours. She seemed to enjoy every position, no problem with the BBBJ and was great with kissing.

With other girls, guys have gotten the same results as me.

Now with problem girls, I'm in favor of calling them out for real problems. But, if the performance wasn't up to my standards, I'll just keep it to myself unless someone asks. Maybe she was having a bad day. Maybe she wasn't feeling well. Maybe we just weren't compatible. Unless it's a significant issue, I just let it slide.

[Baudelairemod]

The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not.

Completely get what you're saying, Mr. E. One needs to obviously know where his comfort ends and what he's willing to put up with. I don't particularly mind the cold showers and the uncomfortable bed as I'm not really going to spend my day there. I am a guy who runs very hot and who starts sweating everytime it goes above 20 see so if anything I welcome a cold shower!

Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her.

Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy".

As Chicafan and Orgasmico are saying above, I like casas because they're always great hunting grounds to find some nice cute hidden gem (especially in the less travelled ones) to maybe groom for some more 1-on-1. I am also not at all in the whole cuddling thing so I'd have to deal with how kicking them out once done. The casas eliminate all the stress and are a sure thing. Plus who could say no to those lineups?

I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.

Not quite sure what you mean by non-pros but if they're sucking your dick and you're giving them money for it, it generally means they're hookers. Maybe you meant less-jaded ones that do not advertise their services / are in casas / are in the street? Or are you picking up genuine girls in malls and at the gym?

We can obviously spend a lot of time debating this but I think that non-pros should fuck "for free" or at least without any actual currency exchanging hands or anything clearly agreed before hand. I met a girl once on SA in Panama who was at uni and simply wanted to go out with a European guy. I happened to be the right person at the right time. I obviously paid for the meal and drinks but after that we fucked all night and she left quite early in the morning without even daring to ask for any money. In my book that's a non pro!

[PolloNegro]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

This is the message several board members are sending and the Colombian feed off of the success they have at doing the least and receiving the most. But as I always say, all is fair and understood! Pollo Negro is Out!

[Chicafan]

Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends.

Reminds me of a joke a friend likes to tell to illustrate what he says is all you need to know about Latin women.

Girl says to her girlfriend "I think my boyfriend is cheating on me". The girfriend pauses, looks curiously at her, then asks "which boyfriend?

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do.

I am moving in your direction but wish I knew where are more casas. There must be 50 that are essentially hidden to most of us. Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". It has taken me some time and reflection to see that clearly. I get a little frustrate if a girls says 7, which becomes 8 then arrives at 9. There have been days I wanted to relax for the day, see a girl late afternoon, then head out for the night and do whatever strikes me. But when 5 pm becomes 7 I end up wishing I had done a casa or some kind of session early but put it off because I believed I was only hours away from a girl arriving at my apartment. We've all been there.

On my last trip I found a casa girl I really liked and saw her several times. It was so simple. The casa was close and I would message to see if she was available. Those sessions were an hour out of my day instead of the several hours (or more) for a couple hours (at most) with a FB girl.

I would love to know of several casas in each barrio but how would I find out? If I knew several in Bello I would roam around there from time to time.

[LoveItHere69]

My buddy has 15+ years experience. We go to a bar with girls on stage. He sees the skinny type he likes. He stares at her and she looks away or even turns away. He smiles and no smile back. He tries to talk with her and she does not answer half his questions and her answers are very short. But still he buys her a drink and sometimes even bar fines these girls. Only on rare occasions can he just stop and talk to a street girl. No social skills what so ever. He carries himself like a tourist and they spot him a mile away. Sadly there are a bunch of these guys out there. They are the ones that can not sense a bad situation. These are the guys that the girls "test" more often by giving less performance, stealing small things, etc. Since there is less chance of a newbie tourist type foreigner complaining versus a regular tourist visitor who knows the game.

Rarely ever do I share girl contacts. I had a guy I met that had been playing in many countries for years. He asked me if I ever tried to renegotiate for a lower price with a girl once I got her into the room. I went off on him about how stupid that was and why. Never talked to him again.

[YippieKayay]

Been lurking for some time now, even tried to pay and join but I'm in the states. I'm in the midst of planning my maiden voyage to Medellin. I was targeting the week around Colombian independence day. Would this be a good or bad time to go? When I lived in Miami I wouldn't miss the Colombian independence day festival they'd have every year always was a blast applying same logic here.

Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends. Not the best time but not necessarily the worst. Worst is Easter or Christmas.

[JjBee62]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

If you didn't clarify it with her first, then it's your mistake. If a girl at Gusto tells you "tres cientos", the proper response is "pesos?

Common sense says that you clear up any confusion before there's a problem. You clearly already know that it's possible the girl means dollars and not pesos. Why would you take her to the elevator, without making sure you're both talking the same currency?

[Turgid]

I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful.

"Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. " Priceless by JjBee62. I have been tempted to press the ignore button on these guys especially one in particular who has thousands of posts but have not so far, I suppose one has to enjoy the good and suffer the bad as in everything else.