Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

Waiting for late arrivals is the number one downside of the facebook scene. A close second is paying triple the casa fee. It is not very hard to compromise and get casa girls to come to your room.

The voice of wisdom.

Facebook does present challenges. I overcome them by knowing the game. First, I schedule in advance. Usually on the same day, sometimes a day or two before. I keep in regular communication so they don't forget. I also set a time 30 minutes earlier than I want and expect arrival 30 minutes after. Finally, I let them know that it's not a timed event. They'll be with me for more than an hour. Most of them I keep for about 2 hours, some have spent 4 or more hours and 1 spent the night. That's for 3 or 4 times the casa rate for 30 minutes (or for the 60 minutes price at Energy).

However, there are times when I just want a quick encounter. I can hit 3 or 4 casas, have a few beers while looking for the right girl. With travel time, I'm eating up about 2 hours and spending 60 k-70 k.

There's a hidden advantage with Facebook, or with having a lot of girls in your WhatsApp, and with keeping some basic communication open, especially for guys who spend long stretches in Medellin. Occasionally a girl will hit you up because she's bored, or because she's desperate. Maybe she's fighting with her mom and wants to get out of the house. Bargains occasionally pop up. For taxi fare and not much more, you can have her company for several hours.

Of course, this requires developing some sort of connection with the girls, beyond the sex. Some guys don't want that. Some, myself included, think it enhances the experience.

[JjBee62]

I think it is better for members to reply with improved approach than rejection.

I don't think one will have problem at La Isla because two things, it is not a Gringo club like Gusto. I was asked to pay in advance at the bar at La Isla when I was there. I saw Colombians did the same.

I think all the replies are just to change the condition to avoid replying the question.

If I rephrase the question, what if a girl wants 300 USD after and you don't have the agreement in writing, what would you do? I know one can reply like before, put it in writing, then I say, girl eats the paper the agreement is written on, what would you say? Take a picture of the agreement and send it to a friend? We can go on and on but the original question is never answered.

The original question assumes a complete rookie did something stupid. Correction, did a few stupid things. 1. he went to Medellin without doing any research. 2. he accepted a initial, well above standard rate offer (in pesos). 3. he never confirmed the price.

Any answers don't really matter, because that person will never see them. If they were the type to read the forums, they would have 1. Probably have avoided Gusto, or just got the girl's number and negotiated a better deal. 2. Confirmed the price, because he would know many girls in Gusto ask for dollars from gringos.

But, let's say it happens and I happen to walk up in the middle of the heated argument between the girl and the GTC (Google Translate Commando). First thing, I get her side of the story. Next I get his side. I explain each side to the other. Then, because I'm a nice guy, I'll explain to her that he doesn't have dollars, he has pesos, and he doesn't have that much money. I'll tell her that I will get him to pay what he can and I will tell her to say "dolares" next time.

Then, I'll tell him that he fucked up. I'll explain the importance of clarifying the price and ask how much he has. I'll get him a rate between the 300 k he thought and the 900 k she wanted. He'll pay more than 300 k. She'll get less than 900 k and he will have learned a lesson. Both will walk away without any trouble.

Then, if I like her look, I'll get her number and have her for 150-200 k.

Now assuming someone doesn't come along to rescue the GTC, he's on his own. If she makes enough noise, security or the police are likely to show up. Whose side will they take? If he's lucky he gets away with paying 500 k. If he's unlucky. Worst case, she tells the cop she's not of age, that she's using her cousin's cedula and that he knew she was only 16.

Any time you let a situation escalate to the point where police are involved, you're swimming with the sharks.

So, the final answer is:

1. he needs to keep the situation calm.

2. he needs to explain the confusion.

3. he needs to work out a deal that she will accept.

If he can talk her into 300 k, great. If she's not budging off of $300, he's better off paying it, than risking an escalation.

[Sangnyc21]

https://www.instagram.com/tanikataa/

I really can't stand girls who are very hot soil themselves with so much plastic surgery.

Fake asses are the biggest turn off for me.

Doesn't feel as good when you fuck them from the back and it smells quite awful since they can never properly wipe their asses. LOL. So spontaneous sex is out the question for them.

[Knowledge]

Waiting for late arrivals is the number one downside of the facebook scene. A close second is paying triple the casa fee. It is not very hard to compromise and get casa girls to come to your room.

Reminds me of a joke a friend likes to tell to illustrate what he says is all you need to know about Latin women.

Girl says to her girlfriend "I think my boyfriend is cheating on me". The girfriend pauses, looks curiously at her, then asks "which boyfriend?

I am moving in your direction but wish I knew where are more casas. There must be 50 that are essentially hidden to most of us. Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". It has taken me some time and reflection to see that clearly. I get a little frustrate if a girls says 7, which becomes 8 then arrives at 9. There have been days I wanted to relax for the day, see a girl late afternoon, then head out for the night and do whatever strikes me. But when 5 pm becomes 7 I end up wishing I had done a casa or some kind of session early but put it off because I believed I was only hours away from a girl arriving at my apartment. We've all been there..

[WindAngel]

I think it is better for members to reply with improved approach than rejection.

The next thing out of your mouth should be "tres cientos mil pesos?" especially if you're at Gustos or La Isla & you're thinking with the little head. If you're talking with a casa or street girl, even if she meant 300 k COP, she better be quoting her weekly rate.

I don't think one will have problem at La Isla because two things, it is not a Gringo club like Gusto. I was asked to pay in advance at the bar at La Isla when I was there. I saw Colombians did the same.

I think all the replies are just to change the condition to avoid replying the question.

If I rephrase the question, what if a girl wants 300 USD after and you don't have the agreement in writing, what would you do? I know one can reply like before, put it in writing, then I say, girl eats the paper the agreement is written on, what would you say? Take a picture of the agreement and send it to a friend? We can go on and on but the original question is never answered.

[Paulie97]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

If a girl quotes you "300" in Medellin, then it's pesos. I've spent three months a year there for four years now and it's never been any different. If she wants dollars she needs to say "dollars," otherwise she gets pesos, and as someone else said, they know how to say dollars. Just show some balls, something many girls are banking that you do not have, and you'll be better off. Show weakness, especially to Latin women, and that's where you invite problems.

Dollars are rarely used in Medellin, and it's only the biggest chumps that carry them. And any girl quoting simply "300" hoping to extract dollars in the end is up to no good anyway. She can still scam by denying she agreed to pesos, or scam some other way. Then she can just threaten to call the police or a crew of her straight razor wielding extended family members and the petrified gringo is running to the safe faster than her head can spin. Lololol.

P.S. Yes there are occasionally gringos killed in Medellin, but the typical scenarios are street robberies where the victim allegedly resisted. There's also been a few that were over drugged.

[Surf Looker]

https://www.instagram.com/tanikataa/

[BayBoy]

Another aspect to keep in mind is that most mongers don't really go to casas with much on them. I personally only bring a copy of my passport, enough cash to last me for the day (less than USD 100) and some crappy flip phone. No watch, no "nice" clothes, no fancy sunglasses. Basically stuff I wouldn't miss if the worst were to happen. Needless to say, I've never had any trouble. Maybe that's because I looked so relaxed and chill.

The only way I could consider bringing them back to mine would be if I was staying at the mansion where there are so many layers of security that you don't really have to worry about leaving your stuff in the open or going for a shower.

I'm in your camp when it comes mongering. I just bring the cash I estimate that I will need for the day, paper copy of my passport and not even a cellphone. Travel light and fast. Dress down and keep a low profile. I do my business in the casas and not in my room, so nothing gets stolen. I've had 2 robbery attempts on me in So. America, once in Buenos Aires and once in Medellin. Sorry for the bad guys, they didn't get anything when they reached into my pocket. Then you don't have to worry.

[Balboa]

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

Come on man, if you're not bright enough to clear that up beforehand, stay home.

Geeeez.

Give the guy a break.

Maybe "not bright enough" is a bit strong. I'd say uninitiated...

Ahhh bueno, you're right.

Apologies.

I should've said; It will always be in your best interest to ensure the price you have negotiated.

Both amount and currency type.

Common sense ehh.

Enjoy 😉.

[Wolf662]

Hey, there's a message place right across the street. I'll try it and report. For every 1 time I come to Medellin, I go to Cali 5 times. This summer. August, it off to Mombasa. PM ifn you want to have a beer conmigo.

That is Yakuza, behind the mirrored door, different kind of Casa, that's for sure, not many girls (3 to 5 ish) on at once but they open early and stay open real late, like past 2 am, and for 45 k total you can take the girl back to the Botero since Yakuza's room are god awful, at least the one I was in on my 1st trip. I always walk thru a few times a night and see who's on. You also have Chica's Punto pretty close, about a block and a half, they have a larger selection but not chill as Yakuza where you can get a beer and sit on the couch with the chicks.

[Bottom Feeder]

Hey, there's a message place right across the street. I'll try it and report. For every 1 time I come to Medellin, I go to Cali 5 times. This summer. August, it off to Mombasa. PM ifn you want to have a beer conmigo.

[Turgid]

....................I would love to know of several casas in each barrio but how would I find out? If I knew several in Bello I would roam around there from time to time.

If you are in Medellin on a short trip the best deal is to go to New Life; there you have all the variety you need. If you are here on the long haul as I am now then apart from using the list you collect the cards from the guys in the street in Centro and check out those casas. The facilities are not that great -Cold water, small rooms, hard mattresses, tiny towels but chicas unpolluted by gringos viz sweet, service oriented and not money hungry. Not all are lookers though. I am quite willing to sacrifice looks for service in those casas. I have also discovered other casas by chatting in my broken Spanish with the girls in those casas.

[Surf Looker]

Hahah yes putas always stay puta. Wendy in Florida still puta and aleza think Israel no sure.

Pao old old puta. Does she do in the culo?

She no many girls but they charge a lot?

The is one old list. Jajaja.

Thanks for sending me down memory lane. Two of the chicks on that list no longer live in Colombia.

Best chick on that list is Pao. She is old but does everything she can do to stay in the game. But she is well worth knowing. She is bi and has great taste in women.

She has introduced me to some of the hottest women I have ever bedded in Medellin.

[Orgasmico]

Then I asked who she lived with. She said (her husband) and kids. So I guess that I will see her soon.

Be safe! We enjoy your reports.

[Baudelairemod]

Non-pro. Non-prostitute. Normal chicks that there is no need to give money to.

Wednesday was my last day in Bogota, so I went to a certain mall where I like to have my nails done. I really did not say anything to this chick the entire time. When she finished she asked for my name because she was writing the bill out for the cashier. When she tore out the paper to take it to the cashier I told her I thought you were writing your number for me. She said huh? Then she started writing it down. I got my phone and copied it into my phone to send her a message on whatsapp. I told her that I was leaving the next morning but I would be back soon and we could go out or whatever. She said that would be fine. I left because I had to go meet my nurse chick at another mall.

On the way out I stopped by a burrito place. I was waiting on my food when I noticed the chick from the nail shop across at the other register having already ordered food as well. I said hey what are you doing here? Why you did not tell me your were coming? She said she had not eaten all day and came to get a quick arepa. I said you should have said something and I would have treated you. I told her that we at least need to eat together if we are going to be boyfriend and girlfriend.

While we were eating we were talking getting to know each other. I asked what she liked to do and she said she didn't get much time to do anything because she works from 9 am to 9 pm. I asked how much she makes and she told me that she gets 4,000 pesos for manicure and 6,000 pesos for pedicure. My bill was 42,000, so she only got 10,000 of that. Then I asked who she lived with. She said her husband and kids. I told her if she don't scream, then I won't holler! So I guess that I will see her soon.

Good luck with her! Sounds like she could be fun and worth the effort.

I think it's pretty obvious that if you're trying your hand at non-pros (I. E. dating with a better bargaining power than in your home country) then the only real avenue available to you is your flat. That's because you couldn't meet them in a casa to begin with. In that case you don't really have a choice but bringing them back to yours.

Another aspect to keep in mind is that most mongers don't really go to casas with much on them. I personally only bring a copy of my passport, enough cash to last me for the day (less than USD 100) and some crappy flip phone. No watch, no "nice" clothes, no fancy sunglasses. Basically stuff I wouldn't miss if the worst were to happen. Needless to say, I've never had any trouble. Maybe that's because I looked so relaxed and chill.

The only way I could consider bringing them back to mine would be if I was staying at the mansion where there are so many layers of security that you don't really have to worry about leaving your stuff in the open or going for a shower.