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  1. #42560
    If you want to look "exotic," you'd better stay far away from Poblado. Or better yet, go to a small town in Colombia. The days of a Gringo looking exotic in Medellin are long gone. Like by 15-20 years.

    And the local dudes are for the most part good-looking and dress nicely. If you look better than the average local dude, you likely look better than most visiting gringos.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

    I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

  2. #42559
    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]

    Regardless I assume there are plenty of guys who read this forum and do not post who are curious like I am what the non-pro scene in Colombia is like. I gained a lot of useful knowledge from this forum and I am just trying to contribute back with what I experience. I also completely understand what you have told me several times that fucking non-pro girls depends totally on my own personal ability.
    I'm in the same boat. Looking forward to your reports!

  3. #42558
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    As others have stated, if you're a good-looking guy that girls throw themselves at in the US (or wherever you live), you will likewise attract non-pro chicas in Colombia. To move beyond attraction to fucking them, it also helps to have time on the ground. Visits of 7-10 days are not conducive to fucking non-pros, even if you're devilishly handsome.

    If you're not particularly attractive, going to another country is not going to make you so. Girls in Colombian are every bit as superficial as girls in the US.
    I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

    I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

  4. #42557
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    As others have stated, if you're a good-looking guy that girls throw themselves at in the US (or wherever you live), you will likewise attract non-pro chicas in Colombia. To move beyond attraction to fucking them, it also helps to have time on the ground. Visits of 7-10 days are not conducive to fucking non-pros, even if you're devilishly handsome.

    If you're not particularly attractive, going to another country is not going to make you so. Girls in Colombian are every bit as superficial as girls in the US.
    The bar is pretty high. It is to fuck 8 and above non pros with higher level of intimacy for free without speaking the language within 2 dates.

  5. #42556
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    There's nothing like that that I'm aware of. I doubt there would be any market for it in Colombia, maybe in another 5 years.

    It's probably not going to be cheaper in Medellin. It's hard to top a complete meal for under $3. With a delivery fee, about $3.60. Probably not more convenient either, since many apartments might lack what you need to prepare the meals. Not every place has a microwave, or an oven. Refrigerators tend to be fairly small and other storage is limited.

    The other point is, why travel to another country and spend all your time locked down? I suppose it makes sense if you have a lot of food allergies, or if you're on a very, very strict diet.

    Wherever you go you'll find reasonably healthy food options. Sit down, ask about their menu del DIA and give it a try. It's probably nearly as healthy as your meal plan, probably cheaper and you can sit outside and admire all the chicas walking past.

    If you need even healthier options, try any of the 3 places I named. Mundo Verde has a few locations.
    I'm perplexed with all of this, besides the places you mentioned, there's a lot of Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, and Indian places with vegetarian fare, all cheap and fast thru Rappi, so why waste valuable time dealing with food unless you like to cook as a hobby, then that's a different matter.

  6. #42555
    As others have stated, if you're a good-looking guy that girls throw themselves at in the US (or wherever you live), you will likewise attract non-pro chicas in Colombia. To move beyond attraction to fucking them, it also helps to have time on the ground. Visits of 7-10 days are not conducive to fucking non-pros, even if you're devilishly handsome.

    If you're not particularly attractive, going to another country is not going to make you so. Girls in Colombian are every bit as superficial as girls in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Njoean197  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean by "use" someone?

    To be honest, there are times I feel like a piece of shit for paying for sex and the guilt does bother me. Its nice to fuck a girl where there is a mutual attraction and I don't feel the shame and guilt of paying for sex. Now am I going to break down crying from this? Haha, not even close. If I bang a few non-pros and establish a non-transactional relationship with them in Colombia with minimal effort then great, if I strike out several times, no big deal- back to the pro leagues haha.

    Regardless I assume there are plenty of guys who read this forum and do not post who are curious like I am what the non-pro scene in Colombia is like. I gained a lot of useful knowledge from this forum and I am just trying to contribute back with what I experience. I also completely understand what you have told me several times that fucking non-pro girls depends totally on my own personal ability.

  7. #42554
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Last week I saw a rare sight. The police in Plaza Botero launched a mini operativo on the lawns nearest the Nutibara Hotel. They seized bottles of glue. I assume the point of the exercise was to get the sacaleros to disperse. That area is where the sacaleros now gather.
    I'm there, all over it. Nothing like a good Sacalero to blow a load in!

  8. #42553

    Hotel Reward Membership has it's benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Pollo Negro spoiled the fun. Information is power, so he likely did you a favor. Anyway, yes, that is glue ground zero. In the Centro rat economy no short time hotel in the Veracruz-Plaza Botero axis costs more than 15 K or 16 K. 6 K is the going rate for the lower end joints that line the back of the church. Surprisingly, there is a huge delta among the 6 K joints. Some are reasonably clean with spacious rooms and others for the same price are the kinds of places you wipe your shoes on the way out so as to not soil the sidewalk.
    Your a lower level street rat then I envisioned patronizing and knowing so much about the 6 K joints. I've been in a few along the backside of the Church, and was quite afraid that I had caught scabies after laying down on the dirty soiled sheets in those places.

    Hence I splurge at the Premier Plaza or Zona Rosa, albiet it costs between 13 K and 16 K at these higher end establishments. Yet I'm a preferred customer, and at the Zona Rosa I never have to ask for a second towel as they always give me one without asking. I also get upgraded rooms, meaning when available the front rooms verus the rooms by the lobby. But I do tip the attendants 2 K, so I'm a big spender, and perhaps would be considered a very big rat.

  9. #42552
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I already knew what your answer was going to be, yet just for others on their behalf, I had to ask, and I am sure some of them are aghast, but I'm not.
    The fun part is what might just happen next. I made the teenaged boy with his first piece of pussy mistake once in Medellin, did her bareback (I didn't ask. She offered) and came inside. What happened next could have quickly gotten very ugly. However, I kept things calm.

    She immediately got all worked up over it and was clearly headed towards the screaming stage. I talked her down and ended up paying for the Plan b pill.

  10. #42551

    March 2019 Trip Report (yes. 2019)

    Hey all,

    I joined around 2 years ago in anticipation of a trip I took in March 2019. Obviously, this is a very late trip report. I just started browsing the forum again because I am planning my next trip and I realized that I never followed through on my commitment to report back last year. For that, I apologize. Now that I am back reviewing posts, I recall how much help you guys were for my last trip. So better late than never, I suppose.

    I went to Medellin for two weeks in March 2019. I stayed in a Poblado Airbnb with a rooftop pool (Energy building). Beautiful place. Full of gringos. Bit of a party scene. It was girl friendly at the time. The staff was great.

    When I arrived, a driver scooped me up at the airport thanks to a hook up from one of the guys here. That was super cool. However, he no-showed on me for my return trip to the airport so I had to get an airbnb last minute.

    My strategy heading into the trip was to get my tinder active in Medellin (upgraded to Gold membership) and also started looking around on Colombian Cupid and Seeking. I paid for the memberships there so I could have open comms as needed. I also set up a second Facebook account with my location set to Medellin so I could start adding "friends". All of this prep work was worthwhile and fun tbh.

    I knew some Spanish from back in HS and college but at 40 yo I was rusty at best. So starting two months before my trip, I did weekly one on one video tutoring with a Spanish teacher based in Medellin. She was really nice and very cute. We ended up meeting in person twice while I was there but never hooked up because she had a BF (now married). We are still friends today tho on IG so I am really glad I did it.

    Colombian Cupid was a decent investment of time and money in that I got a bunch of WhatsApp numbers and was in comms with some girls leading up to and during the trip. I ended up meeting up with one of them. Non-pro. And we hooked up a couple of days. 21 yo, sexy little 7. It was great sex. She was super into it but was immediately ready to move to the US LOL. I had to tell her to pump the brakes a few times. However, we are still friends today. We chat on WhatsApp and I expect to see her if I go back to Medellin for my next trip (I am debating Rio, Mexico City, or Cartagena as well).

    Little side note. My mentality going down there included hopefulness that maybe I would find my dream girl LOL, I love Latinas and frankly, American women just don't do it for me (or maybe I am just bitter because they don't like me. Who knows). So while I was definitely planning to pay for play, I was deep down wishfully thinking maybe I could get lucky and find the one. I mention this because it probably cost me some money, time, and a few headaches in the long run.

    "Seeking" was the source of a few headaches - 100% my fault because I thought that these girls could be swooned by my youth, swagger, and professional success. HA!! I started thinking too highly of myself during preliminary conversations with some hot girls leading up to the trip, and I was eventually humbled.

    First, there was the girl that was a solid 8. She was telling me about how she loved these particular candles that could be purchased here in the US. So I bought her a couple and brought them down for her. She would text me every day on WhatsApp leading up to the trip and she was really flirtatious. We talked about financial arrangements but she was asking me personal questions about who I was, what I liked, etc. So I mistaken that as actual interest in me versus my wallet. We met up on the second day I was there for lunch and then made plans for another day (established that it would be 4 hours) together for 600 mil. She came over and hung out at the pool, we went to another lunch, and then she came back to my room and we fucked. After about 2 hours total she said she needed to go. So I gave her 400 mil and said I am not giving her the full 600 if she is going to leave. Well, she lost it. Started crying and yelling. Texting on her phone. We started arguing and I told her to get out. She wasn't going quietly and I didn't want more drama so I said fuck it and gave her the 600. This was a fucking ordeal and as I said, it was my naivety that caused it. Lesson learned.

    Then there was another one that was a 9. Same sort of lead up. We even video chatted while I was still in the US. This one was even more caring and affectionate. Complimentary of me. Expressing how she would like to visit me. How she would like to travel together. Again, I mistook this for genuine interest. This one didn't end as bad but I set myself up for disappointment because I thought I won her over after an incredible night together. The next day I hit her up to see if she wanted to get dinner and she wanted a tip too. Also, I think she swiped $100 USD from my wallet when she was in my place the one night. I will say that the sex with this chick was the best of all the women I had on my visit. She was super into it, clean, smelled great. Total package. We did seem to have a connection but she was all about the business in the end.

    Overall, I think Seeking can be worth it because you can develop rapport if that's what you want. I might use it again if / when I return, but I won't make the same mistake of thinking it's anything more than high priced p4 p.

    Facebook and Tinder provided similar experiences. It was quite clear which girls there were the prepagos, which made both platforms easy to navigate. I had a stable of around 100 matches / friends on each before I arrived and I worked those contacts into 4 or 5 hookups. Nothing too memorable but nothing bad either. The one thing that sticks out in my memory was a session with a girl from Facebook. She looked like her pics. She was cute but her pussy wreaked, which is a massive turnoff for me.

    I also hired a girl off of the Showaround app for a tour of the city. I hired based on cost, tour details, and of course looks. Chick was hot. I tried hitting on her but she wasn't having it. Said she had a BF. Overall we had a fun day together and she texted me later in my trip to see how things were going so that was nice. I liked making friends in this way.

    I spent a couple of nights walking around Lleras but I was guarding my sobriety at the time so that wasn't much of a buzz for me. I was a little uncomfortable tbh. Each ti9 me I was there I was approached by girls though. Grazing my shoulder as I walk by with fuck me eyes. Didn't session with any of them.

    I didn't hit the casas or other clubs but want to check them out next time.

    Aside from the women, I went on a private (1:1) Escobar tour, hit up a soccer match (el Classico actually. Was fuckin mint! Did a communa 13 tour, and just did a bunch of walking around. I found people to be really friendly. I never felt unsafe but I felt like I stuck out like a sore thumb when I was in El Centro on the Showaround tour. This asshole wore shorts and bright blue tennis shoes and a backpack, smh. Jeans and shoes with a simple polo shirt next time. Haha.

    Ok gents. I think that covers most of it. Hope it helps and was at least a little entertaining. Haha.

    My next trip is going to be much more budget-oriented. The last trip was life-changing and I quit my job to try and start my own business so I can live and work from anywhere. This lifestyle is a big motivator for that. My venture is still barely off the ground so I will be burning savings until it does. But I need a trip. Might do a few months in Medellin or a month in Medellin and a month in Rio. Thoughts and opinions on the subject are welcome.

    Cheers boys!

  11. #42550
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I have no words.
    Naturally I have some (meant in jest, don't anyone get your Tibetan yak wool boxers in a twist).

    The hipsters have landed.

    Is this pussy gluten free?

    Can I use my cheat day to eat whipped cream off a stripper's tits?

    Which casas offer discounts for guys with man buns?

    Where can I buy lactose free, non-fat, organic condoms?

  12. #42549

    Everywhere but here

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So which monger places do you like?
    That's the thing this is the only place I didn't like I've enjoyed Sosua from 2013-2016 my last trip in 2016 Felt the quality had went down to far so stopped going. I've been to Habanos in Panama and liked it because it remined me of Rumbas in Sosua which is my style of place just a low key bar with a bunch of freelancers which is why I thought I'd like Gusto but the place just felt off. Even the strip clubs here felt like low tier venues not even on the level of small go go bars in Thailand or the PI I wasn't expecting Scandallo Lounge from Sao Paulo but the strip clubs really Fase dos was just so basic and lame that's why I asked did I do something wrong because there know way my opinion should be so far off from everybody else. I don't want to give up on Colombia so I'll give the other city a try unless Asia opens back up.

  13. #42548

    Kind Of Like A Double Ganiner

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Most of us fat old guys aren't going to play jackhammer for 60 minutes. We're not going to try positions which require the girl to be a double jointed gymnast, and we're probably going to be relaxed and pleasant the whole time. Most of us don't feel like we need to prove our manhood to the girl..
    Speak for yourself Jbee2, albeit I'm not fat, yet old, I can play the part of Jackhammer with my dick, with at times some of my victims propped up on half a dozen pillows, in Quattro, while I'm holding their legs up in the air and pounding away as they are yelping for leniency.

  14. #42547
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So you are just looking to use someone? Non-pros are going to be at work during the daytime unless you are doing the tourist stuff on the weekend.
    What do you mean by "use" someone?

    To be honest, there are times I feel like a piece of shit for paying for sex and the guilt does bother me. Its nice to fuck a girl where there is a mutual attraction and I don't feel the shame and guilt of paying for sex. Now am I going to break down crying from this? Haha, not even close. If I bang a few non-pros and establish a non-transactional relationship with them in Colombia with minimal effort then great, if I strike out several times, no big deal- back to the pro leagues haha.

    Regardless I assume there are plenty of guys who read this forum and do not post who are curious like I am what the non-pro scene in Colombia is like. I gained a lot of useful knowledge from this forum and I am just trying to contribute back with what I experience. I also completely understand what you have told me several times that fucking non-pro girls depends totally on my own personal ability.

  15. #42546
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Your logic is flawed.

    If you're a consultant and you're deciding between 2 jobs, both paying the same, which do you choose? Do you take the one which will require very little effort, or the one that will take 3 times the work?

    Most of us fat old guys aren't going to play jackhammer for 60 minutes. We're not going to try positions which require the girl to be a double jointed gymnast, and we're probably going to be relaxed and pleasant the whole time. Most of us don't feel like we need to prove our manhood to the girl.

    In other words, she works much less for the same amount of money. There's not a single grocery store in Colombia that gives a discount if the girl got the money from a young gringo. None of the girls will impress their friends because they can't work for 2 days after some young guy fucked them so hard and fast it rubbed them raw.
    I stand corrected. I am learning new things on this board everyday haha.

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