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  1. #54518
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Then keep leaving your pants draped over a chair when you go to the bathroom, and keep getting your pocket picked. As to the rest of your comparisons between "quick fucks" and your preferences, most of that is in your head and not her's. And you have no idea how many guys these girls are seeing, but if it helps to think you are the first of the day or week, so be it, but is all in your head.

    The vast majority of these girls are from the same handful of lower tier barrios, whether they are working in casas, on FB, or around Lleras. Virtually all want to get you off and move a long, and don't want to spend a lot of time looking at older gringos. However if you negotiate for more like kissing or a second nut, or they sense that you want that, you may get it. But that's because they like the nice payday they are getting from you and want to come back.

    P.S. If you don't like knocks on the door and whatnot, or want to take your time showering, go to a casa and pay for the hour.
    Let's compare. Had 50 k taken out of my pocket about 5 years ago. Had 250 k taken out of my pocket a week ago, but got it back and then gave the girl less than I had originally planned. My pants weren't hung on a chair either time, and I showed a profit on the second one. Other than the 30+ minutes discussing the theft with the second girl, it cost me no time.

    You let a "friend" drug and rob you. If I remember correctly, it cost you 14 hours of consciousness, plus all that was taken, plus the medical bill, plus you could have died.

    I think I prefer my outcome. Nothing personal, but it seems your situation was not only much more expensive, it was also more dangerous.

    Which brings up judging other people's motivations. You incorrectly judged the intentions and motivation of the guy who robbed you, in fact you referred to him as a "friend." I correctly judged the intentions of the girl who tried to rob me and managed the situation with minimal fuss.

    Again, it's nothing personal, but if you can't determine the difference between a friend and someone who is willing to risk killing you in order to rob you, I'm not confident you're qualified to judge the feelings of a woman you've never met, during and after an encounter of which you have no knowledge.

    The working girls don't all come from the same handful of barrios, however, almost all of them come from the same estratos. They come from many dozens of barrios, plus from many other cities and pueblos.

    As for the rest, shall we have some fun?

    1. Just a rough guess, what percentage of the time do casa girls, in the casa, spend 5 minutes taking selfies? Even in a basic place like San Peter Apartments, I'd say 70% are going to snap a few pics. If you stay in an upscale hotel or apartment it's almost guaranteed.

    My take on that is the women prefer the environment of a decent hotel or apartment more than of a casa or ST hotel. If a worker is placed in a better work environment, what effect does that have on productivity and job satisfaction?

    2. How often does a casa or street girl stay with you beyond the initially agreed upon time, without asking for additional payment?. Just a guess, from my experience, 8 or 9 out of 10, of the girls who come to see me, aren't going to make a move to leave, until I make a move to get dressed. A few will even attempt to initiate a second round, which isn't an easy task with me. Never a mention of extra charges.

    My analysis, they enjoy being with me enough that they're in no hurry to leave. Of course it's possible the casa girls want to stay with you longer, but they're on the clock and they need at least 5 customers, with tips to take home what my girls make from 1 session.

    All of this varies from girl to girl and monger to monger. There are street girls who will spend hours hanging out with a monger, before going up to a room. There are mongers who want the girl out of the room 2 minutes after they finish.

    Actually I do have a pretty good idea how many guys these girls are seeing. It's quite simple. Many of them post pictures of where they are, or what they're doing throughout the day. It's simply a matter of recognizing the different activities. Braiding daughter's hair, probably not fucking a customer. Walking dogs in park, probably not fucking a customer. Getting a manicure, probably not fucking a customer. Taking selfie in nice elevator, on the way to fuck a customer.

    One last thing, if I want to avoid the knock on the door, just go to a casa and pay for an hour? How does that work exactly? I'm going to need to have a refrigerator delivered and put in the room, buy snacks and drinks and some extra pillows, plus clean towels and sheets and a better mattress. In many of the casas I'll need to get a water heater installed. I'll definitely need to bring a shower head. After all of that, where am I going to find room for the jacuzzi?

    I'm just getting a knock 30 minutes later.

  2. #54517

    I am living alternate realities, Medellin and everything else.

    There is no doubt about it. The one in Medellin is better. I feel like two completely different persons. I made a very good new friend here who upon seeing me on arrival said, "Asti, relax, you need to let the effects of the real world wear off you.

    I went straight from the airport to one of the worst sections in the city to stay with a girl I barely knew. Her sister lives in the same hotel. Allow me to define Colombiana jealousy for you. Froggy (my new name for her) said, "I'm a very jealous person and I apologize up front for that. You can fuck my sister but don't communicate with her on-line behind my back. " Deal.

    Today, she used me like her personal ATM but I was a willing participant. She is not charging me for sex, but we all pay one way another in the end. At first, I found myself keeping a running tally in my head for what we were spending on shopping compared to a la carte sexual sessions. The numbers were stacking up favorably, then I said fuggit, I'm happy, she's happy, the hallmark of a good deal. Enjoy. She took me to a couple of areas of El Centro I had not seen before. Generally I believe having a local girl on your arm has a protective effect, in most cultures. I completely get why certain mongers wouldn't want to go through all this extra hassle for sex, but that's why they call it GFE for Girlfriend Experience and I am enjoying it now as a change of pace and she is great at it.

    I know I have a good one because she doesn't automatically default to the most expensive choices. In fact, for the prescription eyeglasses it was my idea to go for the upgrade. She is a great bargain shopper and she watches out for my best interests. The SW corner of Simon Bolivar Parque is block of all optical shops. After we picked a pair, they walked us to the corner to get the eye exam, total cost 90 mil COP or $22 USD. We will be spending our third night together tonight, out of the five I promised her. I have no idea how I came up with five as the magic number. I remember when she asked me that 1-30 jumped in my head. It's not easy to suddenly be around a stranger 24/7 but we got lucky.

    Another thing I luv about her is she pays very close attention to my Spanish, or rather the lack of it. She helps, she understands me when others can't, and interprets my Spanish to something understandable. She corrects me politely. Great and different start to another Medellin adventure.
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  3. #54516
    Quote Originally Posted by Plan77  [View Original Post]
    Guys,

    How do you deal with fact that almost all putas and even semi pros seem to have zero interest in the art of foreplay? Almost all of them avoid hugs and fondling when you enter the room with them, instead they either take off their clothes and head to washroom or to the bed and ask. Where is the condom?

    Fuck that, I lose all my excitement by then and feel like kicking them out. The joy of unwrapping the gift is completely stolen. Not to mention that sometimes the body does not seem to match expectations.

    How do you guys control the situation and raise the temperature?
    I've rarely had a problem getting significant foreplay when I have a chica over at my place. OTOH at Centro casas, while it happens from time to time, it's not the norm. Of course one costs 200 mil and the other 40 mil. I typically do both when I'm in MDE as well as a bunch of options in between. Sometimes you want kissing and hugging and sometimes you just want to sport fuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone visited Abydos recently? I think it is on avenida 33. It used to be owned by the same person, I was told, that owned Loutron. And the girls were about the same, though shorter and the rooms not as fancy as the resort type house Loutron. Any comments on recent pricing and quality of chicas please? Loutron used to have top notch girls, but they were not as friendly as Abydos.
    I may be mistaken, but I think Abydos has been closed for several years. I used to hit it once every visit.

  4. #54515
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Everyone does it differently. My approach is to ask por un rato (for a while) and leave it open ended. I always make it known I repeat usually. That way I can judge attitude, do we vibe, is she a pleaser, does she set rules from the start, restrict leches, etc.

    The ones that will just show up for the cita and pay, I probably don't think want the 2nd leche anyway. Its 200 mil. Move on and delete her profile. Over time you pick up a few gems and those take up most of your time. Once they are with you, it's just a super chill situation, and everyone is relaxed and you get what you want, as often as you want and you don't even have to discuss price. FYI I used to be the guy discussing every detail including the number of leches and where etc. And though some specifics are warranted on the first negotiation, keep it to what you must have. I have even negotiated 2 leches and decided no mas after the first as it was so lousy and felt like a chore. Did I repeat? Hell no.
    Equally there was a time I didn't ask a thing, went 3 times and I don't think she would have minded if it was 3 more, she was on a mission to make sure I was happy and satisfied by the time she left almost 3hrs later. I gave her 200mil total and she was happy. Did I repeat? Hell yeah..
    There have been times in my life when I almost rejected or walked away from a girl. The intercourse turned out to be best of the best in a thousand.

    The problem with lists is that unless one visits regularly, like 3/4 times in a year, it becomes difficult to stay in touch. Girls often change their numbers. If you try to stay in touch remotely, the demand for $$$ does not take long to appear.

    I guess its all a matter of luck and planetary alignment during that particular time.

  5. #54514
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Tell them up front you want Girl Friend Experience, a little harder to find and obviously you need to click. I am in the middle of an extended GFE at this moment. She knows about my List, she made it onto the List faster than any other chica in history, because of her GFE ability. If you are not rock-solid with your emotions and persona, tread lightly, because they will have you believing you are her one-and-only faster than a puta dodges a raindrop. I have never started out a visit to MDE like this before. One chica, GFE, I promised her five nights and amazingly at this point I won't be amazed if we hit that mark. None of my regulars know I am in town. Catgirl just Whassapped me today from the DR so maybe my timing is good. Better than good. The smoking hot sister of my GFE was the cherry on top.

    You're going to have a harder time getting GFE for short encounters but not impossible, especially if you can make your wants known to her before you close the deal.

    I carry a small Blue Tooth speaker with me for encounters in the Love Motels. Mirrors. Lower your expectations. All unhappiness is preceded by desire.
    "Lower your expectations. All unhappiness is preceded by desire." Very true indeed.

    Be careful with excessive GFE though, can be a deadly two faced sword.

  6. #54513
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    A lot of it depends on your accommodations. Can't sit on the balcony if you don't have a balcony. That's why I don't stay much in rooms with just the basics.

    First I greet them with a combination handshake, peck on the cheek and light hug. Then I lead them to where I want them to go, couch or balcony. I ask how they are and if they want something to drink. All the time, I'm in no hurry.

    After getting drinks, I sit down next to her and just talk a bit. AK a few basic questions, answer a few. Drop a compliment or two. I always keep in contact, but keep it safe. Get her connected to the WiFi and to your little Bluetooth speaker. Let her put on some music.

    Caress her arm and leg, give a few kisses on the cheek and neck. Be the aggressor, but keep it moving at your pace. You can completely control the pace, but you have to do it from the start. Don't let her walk in and take charge.
    You do have a point. Now that I think about it, rushed experience is more common in rooms that are quite basic.

    Thanks for the tips, I will certainly try these on next few dates.

  7. #54512

    Tres leches

    Quote Originally Posted by DonMedellin  [View Original Post]
    For 200 k, you should be able to have as many leches as you want during the agreed period of time. For most people, 2-3 is where the fun is, then it becomes a burden.
    I'll have tres leches please. LOL and I don't mean the cake jajajajja.
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  8. #54511

    Liposuction in Medellin

    Has Anyone on here gotten any cosmetic body contouring done specifically some type of liposuction? Does anyone have any recommendations or facilities to get have the process done? Has anyone ever heard of Cirugía plástica en Medellíand?

  9. #54510
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    ... I have merely shared some insight ....
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Ok let me spell it out for you,....
    How about we settle it this way. Chicago85 list your girls, I will pick from the list. GeneHickman can guarantee and arrange the meet for 200 mil or lower. I will pay for the girl to prove the point.

  10. #54509

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    We can undress slowly. None of the quickly get undressed and roll your pants up as a pillow.
    Then keep leaving your pants draped over a chair when you go to the bathroom, and keep getting your pocket picked. As to the rest of your comparisons between "quick fucks" and your preferences, most of that is in your head and not her's. And you have no idea how many guys these girls are seeing, but if it helps to think you are the first of the day or week, so be it, but is all in your head.

    The vast majority of these girls are from the same handful of lower tier barrios, whether they are working in casas, on FB, or around Lleras. Virtually all want to get you off and move a long, and don't want to spend a lot of time looking at older gringos. However if you negotiate for more like kissing or a second nut, or they sense that you want that, you may get it. But that's because they like the nice payday they are getting from you and want to come back.

    P.S. If you don't like knocks on the door and whatnot, or want to take your time showering, go to a casa and pay for the hour.

  11. #54508
    Quote Originally Posted by Plan77  [View Original Post]
    Guys,

    How do you deal with fact that almost all putas and even semi pros seem to have zero interest in the art of foreplay? Almost all of them avoid hugs and fondling when you enter the room with them, instead they either take off their clothes and head to washroom or to the bed and ask. Where is the condom?

    Fuck that, I lose all my excitement by then and feel like kicking them out. The joy of unwrapping the gift is completely stolen. Not to mention that sometimes the body does not seem to match expectations.

    How do you guys control the situation and raise the temperature?
    A lot of it depends on your accommodations. Can't sit on the balcony if you don't have a balcony. That's why I don't stay much in rooms with just the basics.

    First I greet them with a combination handshake, peck on the cheek and light hug. Then I lead them to where I want them to go, couch or balcony. I ask how they are and if they want something to drink. All the time, I'm in no hurry.

    After getting drinks, I sit down next to her and just talk a bit. AK a few basic questions, answer a few. Drop a compliment or two. I always keep in contact, but keep it safe. Get her connected to the WiFi and to your little Bluetooth speaker. Let her put on some music.

    Caress her arm and leg, give a few kisses on the cheek and neck. Be the aggressor, but keep it moving at your pace. You can completely control the pace, but you have to do it from the start. Don't let her walk in and take charge.

  12. #54507

    Abydos vs. Loutron

    Has anyone visited Abydos recently? I think it is on avenida 33. It used to be owned by the same person, I was told, that owned Loutron. And the girls were about the same, though shorter and the rooms not as fancy as the resort type house Loutron. Any comments on recent pricing and quality of chicas please? Loutron used to have top notch girls, but they were not as friendly as Abydos.

  13. #54506
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Ok let me spell it out for you, since apparently your economics degree in grad school didn't do you much good. Saying that the price of pussy in Colombia correlates to exchange rate is abject nonsense. It doesn't in either directions. Some of the veterans on this board can tell you that when the peso strengthened the prices did not adjust downwards. Inflation in Colombia is based on many things of which exchange rate is one factor. Cost of services generally correlate with inflation.

    You do what you want and pay what you want, but you can't post your opinion as fact. Get over yourself.
    I am over myself and wish you the same. You are the one who initially reacted in such a combative manner. I have merely shared some insight into economics and how exchanges rates work. As you correctly noted, 'cost of services generally correlate with inflation' (exactly! Inflation up, costs up! I wish you nothing but the best.

  14. #54505
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure what is illogic about what I wrote, it's actually quite logical. Also Colombia is far from self sufficient in today's global economy. All of those electronics the girls are buying and many of the clothes they're wearing are from abroad, plus cars (and those contracts are in USD, plus the US is their largest importer). Secondly, all of the gringos coming to Medellin are driving up housing, so that is also increasing costs. It's not me paying slightly more for a chica each year LOL.

    With all respect, I studied economics in grad school and have been coming here for over 10 years. Probably 25 trips. I don't need a lecture from a cheap charlie on gringos driving up prices.
    Ok let me spell it out for you, since apparently your economics degree in grad school didn't do you much good. Saying that the price of pussy in Colombia correlates to exchange rate is abject nonsense. It doesn't in either directions. Some of the veterans on this board can tell you that when the peso strengthened the prices did not adjust downwards. Inflation in Colombia is based on many things of which exchange rate is one factor. Cost of services generally correlate with inflation.

    You do what you want and pay what you want, but you can't post your opinion as fact. Get over yourself.

  15. #54504
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    This is the precise type of illogic that inflates prices. Centro prices are closer (not the same) to what locals pay, if they pay at all, neighborhood chicas bang friends for free or small favors etc. it's the local culture. Gringos drive up prices in the venues they frequent due to their stupidity. The economy of Colombia, is not a massive trade economy, they are self sufficient in a lot of things e.g Energy, Agro products, services etc. So their world and economy doesn't revolve around dollars like it does in Panama for example. So there maybe some adjustment if inflation goes up, but what people charge for services is more correlated to that than the exchange rate. The fixed price of a taxi from the airport to poblado / laurles etc I have found to be a better correlate of that than what a gringo in heat decides to pay a puta when his little head has taken over.
    l.
    I'm not sure what is illogic about what I wrote, it's actually quite logical. Also Colombia is far from self sufficient in today's global economy. All of those electronics the girls are buying and many of the clothes they're wearing are from abroad, plus cars (and those contracts are in USD, plus the US is their largest importer). Secondly, all of the gringos coming to Medellin are driving up housing, so that is also increasing costs. It's not me paying slightly more for a chica each year LOL.

    With all respect, I studied economics in grad school and have been coming here for over 10 years. Probably 25 trips. I don't need a lecture from a cheap charlie on gringos driving up prices.

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