Medellin Reports

[Orion4]

Is there a condensed version of the should knows / pro tips? I don't have time to look through a few thousand pages of reports.

[Nounce]

First, I can't claim to know what Elvis is doing.....

If you take away the age, that is basically what Elvis is doing and I think Elvis is probably doing better. I also think he is paying more then the rent.

If it is a member here doing the same thing as the old man, what do you expect the reaction to be? Older age does not make him immune to bad things.

[Osteoknot]

Well he was either lying to you, or you were seen on one of the cameras in the station. Unless they've invested in invisible cameras, there are no cameras in the individual cars.

I find it credible and easy to believe that there could be hidden cameras aboard, but that's a pure guess. Could be your answer but I find it hard to believe that a worker at the metro station would go out of his way to "lie" about it to a customer, as you suggested. Maybe the definitive answer will appear soon. Inquiring minds would like to know. I will try to remember to ask next time I ride. I used to ride several times a week when Catgirl lived in San Javier, but not so much anymore.

[Osteoknot]

Not saying all girls are like this, but there are plenty of chicas out there with low self esteem who will hang with any dude who shows them such attention. Whether or not a guy pays directly with cash is not a black and white issue, especially in Colombia, where these chica are on continuum of Pay 4 Play. Some chicas will dig you enough to fuck you for free, at least at first. Using direct payment as a measure of whether or not a relationship is "valid" is full of loopholes. If you see a girl repeatedly and you never show her one sign of sharing or giving, I guarantee you will be replaced. Sometimes it takes a little time for the chica to see your cheap ass for what it really is, then the relationship ends.

Speaking of which, at my current rate of new wet holes over time, I will die with having been with way more regular "normal" girlfriends that prepago. But I like the pay-for-play option for convenience and the ease of variety. Paying for sex is an individual decision and we all settle for what we are willing to accept. Comparisons are futile. Trust me, there are plenty of girls out there who will never consider a guy who can't pay. The "pool" of girls available to a guy adjusts to the girls' payment threshold.

This becomes an automatic self-selecting process that guys rationalize in their head by categorizing the girls they can't have as ones they don't want.

My ex-wife, who I know loved me as much as anyone could, told me at the beginning of our relationship, "I ain't going to fall in love with no broke $**ger". That set the stage but certainly didn't make her a sex worker or lessen the value of our time together. We all pay.

I am not implying that it takes money to be in a happy relationship. Quality of time spent together is probably one of the best things a guy can show a chica, if he cares. I have chicas who would hang with me whether I gifted them or not, but I don't use that as the defining line of how I treat them.

I know when a chica buys me a pair of chanclas or some candy, that is like me buying her something worth ten times more. It's not about the monetary value, it's about giving and the spirit behind it.

We all rationalize our own behaviors to fit the model we hold of ourselves, whether accurate or not. That is how the brain manages internal psychological conflict to make it easier to live with ourselves. Most of us are pretty pathetic examples, and to acknowledge that consciously to ourselves can cause depression so the brain does what brains do and molds our self-belief system to protect us from ourselves. Brains do that automatically, on a subconscious level.

One of my favorite fall-back positions on this topic is the "all other things being equal" point of view. Imagine two guys, exact physical and emotional copies of each other. Clones who acted exactly alike in all situations. Now, one guy pays for sex and the other guy never does. Who do more girls choose, over time? The answer mi amigos is a no-brainer. Whether you agree, like it or loathe it, that is the way things work on this planet.

[Orion4]

You absolutely can hook up with non-hookers in Colombia. If you can do it in the USA, you can likely to it in Colombia. I did it when I first started this hobby a quarter-century ago (in Colombia, Brasil, et al). Unfortunately, I'm not a young stud anymore, so it's not happening unless I want to service 50 year old chicas.

The thing is, you can't necessary rely on hooking up with non-pros. So you likely will want to have pay-for-play chicas as a backup. This makes sense if you're in town just a week or two and you want to fuck at least once every day. Now, if you're in town for an extended period of time, going after non-pros makes more sense. Though I would still do some prepagos as backups.

And obviously, language ability will make a huge difference. A prostitute doesn't care if you speak Spanish (she might not even want to talk with you! A non-pro, it's makes a big difference. Even then though, if you look like a young George Clooney, you could still get laid w / o Spanish.

People thought I was trolling, but I wasn't. I've never thought about paying for sex before (mostly because I'm cheap in regards to that LOL), so this is all new to me.

Idk what the general age is around here, but I'm in my late 20's. I'll only be in Medellin for about 2 weeks. I've been talking to some non-pros who seem interested (I'm expecting a lot of them to flake, so want to have back up options), but I would say they're in the 7-8 range. I don't think I'm talking to any 9's or 10's.

I can barely put together a sentence in Spanish.

Do you guys usually solo adventure in Medellin or go with others? This is my first time in Latin America, and I'm also traveling solo.

[Orion4]

Tinder ok, but a higher incidence of issues with girls and flakes. Numerous incidents over the past year of guys getting drugged and 90%+ were from Tinder. Many guys use Facebook as you can see more photos and verify they are who they say they are. Less likely that a girl will build out an entire fake profile on Facebook to rob you than Tinder.

Ah I see. So I don't use facebook anymore. I'm guessing I would probably look weird if I use a new facebook account to look for women?

What about IG? I use IG.

[LoveItHere69]

Whether or not she has other novios is more than debatable

Not debatable. Guaranteed. You think some 80 year old foreigner meets her physical, emotional, and social needs? Wake up. My god they are at totally different points in their lives.

[Combo]

Unless you are really old and decrepit which I'm sure you're not you should be able to get 30+ year old non-hookers in Colombia and Brazil. In the US though the pickings may be a little more tough and you may indeed have to service 50 year olds.

First trip to Brasil many moons ago. Landed that morning and after a nap, me and my buddy were walking around getting to know the streets. I see a hot-looking young women and we start talking. I speak Spanish so it was doable, though not perfect. There's obvious mutual attraction. Literally within 20 minutes, we ditched my friend and we're in my hotel room boning. Afterwards, she gave me her number, but I never saw her again. Didn't spend one cent on her! Picked up another girl on the beach later that week for again nothing.

This was during Carnaval, so that likely helped. Speaking of, if you really want to get non-pros for nothing in Colombia, go to Cali for la Feria. It's sort of like Carnaval in that everyone is looking to party and have fun. I think even an older guy could get a young chica for nothing there during that week. Fuck, I have to get back to Cali for la Feria. Haven't been for 9 years now.

Having said that, it's so nice to be able to just pay and get what you want when you want and on your terms.

[Chicago85]

He is 80, she is 19 years old. He pays her rent, that's it.

He was a miserable wretch living on a fixed income in the USA that was not meeting his needs. A friend of his from here, a really great friend, bought him a ticket to Medellin. The rest as the saying goes, is history.

His name wasn't 'Eric' was it? I've been trying to locate an old friend who fits that description!

[Osteoknot]

Just playing devil's advocate, how does this different from what Elvis is doing?

Most of us know this could go bad if the man is not prepared. He could be miserable and stalking the girl while she has a date.

First, I can't claim to know what Elvis is doing. Are you implying that the girl might have a jealous local boyfriend? Gringo or non-Gringo?

A much more likely scenario would be that she has a local boyfriend who benefits from her relationship with the old dude, than being at risk of danger from the boyfriend. Or that she has multiple novios and they others ones don't stalk her or worry about her other relationships. But of course anything is possible when it comes to irrational behavior secondary to interpersonal relationships. I would place danger from another boyfriend a distant last on the list.

Finally, I consider other girlfriends and girlfriends in general more dangerous to guys, then other boyfriends dangerous to guys. Them can be some crazy-ass beeatches. Catgirl used to tell me she would cut my dick off in the middle of the night if I got her mad enough. She hasn't said that in over year, now. Jajajajaa.

[Knowledge]

Yes, Continental you are correct. In addition to your experience, there is the well known case of the uniformed law enforcement official who was caught on camera smoking weed in a cable car. The video was widely shared on social media and the national media outlets. It's beside the point but it later emerged that the party guy was in fact a probationary trainee rather than a full fledged officer. The point is there is video surveillance so you should not do anything you would not want to be put on blast.

Yes, they do. Back during covid a friend and I were approached by security saying that even in the cable car we have to wear our masks. We had them off for 90% of the journey and put them on near the end when we would get off at the station. I said look we have our masks on, what's the deal? The gentleman said he saw through the cameras that we did not before.

[Nounce]

That old guy is my hero!

He is 80, she is 19 years old. He pays her rent, that's it.

He was a miserable wretch living on a fixed income in the USA that was not meeting his needs. A friend of his from here, a really great friend, bought him a ticket to Medellin. The rest as the saying goes, is history.....

Just playing devil's advocate, how does this different from what Elvis is doing?

...Whether or not she has other novios is more than debatable, if one were rude enough to discuss that topic in front of him.

He is happy. Very happy. I personally felt it was a wonderful situation. Consenting adults, no one getting hurt. Who cares what other people think?....

Most of us know this could go bad if the man is not prepared. He could be miserable and stalking the girl while she has a date.

[Osteoknot]

Yes, they do. Back during covid a friend and I were approached by security saying that even in the cable car we have to wear our masks. We had them off for 90% of the journey and put them on near the end when we would get off at the station. I said look we have our masks on, what's the deal? The gentleman said he saw through the cameras that we did not before.

No. There are no cameras in the metrocable cars.

I've taken girls to Parque Arvi, late mornings during the week are good, few customers. The leg from Santo Domingo to the park is long enough for some fun. No full sex, but I've gotten head and fingered a girl off.

So we are going with hidden cameras? Is that the correct conclusion? Worth noting. That's some funny shit.

[GeneHickman]

No, we're not only going after pros, but if you're limited in time it's the easiest thing. Many of us also date regular girls, but sex day one not assured and for me the 2-3 date rule still usually applies for the majority. Plus if you date the regular girls the overall cost is higher (want gifts, wined, dined, get jealous quickly, etc.). If your trip is only 4-7 days you're going to waste a lot of time and money with non-pros. Plus the non-pros often lose interest pretty quickly if you're only going to be there for a week. If you LIVE in Medellin that's a completely different story.


I've found Brazil to be much easier for just random one night stand sex if that's what your into.

Just my 2 cents.

Can't comment on Brazil, as I've never been. However, what you say about non pros in Colombia and short trips is spot on. Having been one that experimented with it on a recent 8 day trip. I can assure you the nice 18 yr 4 mth old university pussy I got to partake once, was not worth the 450 mil or so in gifts, shopping, taxis and meals, 2. 5 days of pursuing, and angst and frustration etc. When my 2nd advance a few hrs later was rebuffed. I decided to end it and called her a taxi. So learn your own lesson if you must, but learn from me if you can. It's very doable but do you want to do it? A month or more and I might go that route.

[JjBee62]

Yes, they do. Back during covid a friend and I were approached by security saying that even in the cable car we have to wear our masks. We had them off for 90% of the journey and put them on near the end when we would get off at the station. I said look we have our masks on, what's the deal? The gentleman said he saw through the cameras that we did not before.

Well he was either lying to you, or you were seen on one of the cameras in the station. Unless they've invested in invisible cameras, there are no cameras in the individual cars.