Medellin Reports

[BlackThought]

Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.

That's how the airline algorithms work. Google "skiplagged", airlines are suing this service.

[BlackThought]

OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.

Very good point there as it's evident with those that live in MDE have a fixed price with regulars.

[Mr Enternational]

I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.

I don't either. It is like if we were playing a game of dominos and I offered you money to play better. How much better could you possibly play? Some people are really good at things, some people are really horrible at things, and most people are just average at things.

[Nounce]

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What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.

If money matters that much, the the expensive clubs will have the best performers on average. I go to both expensive and cheap places and as far as sex is concerned, I don't see that. I have taken girls from the most expensive club in Sao Paulo recently. I am paying like half or a quarter of some other clients are paying based on what she told me after. I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.

[GeneHickman]

I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.

All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.

Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.

[GeneHickman]

Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.

This was discussed a couple of months ago. They do accept US cards, however when you are registering your card, they send a small fictitious charge to your card account, you have to check that amount on your card website and put that amount into the app before the card is set up to work in the app. I had a minor incident first up before I figured this out, when I ordered food on the app it arrived but defaulted to effectivo (which I did not have). Luckily I was with a SA sweetheart who paid the rest from her purse till we went over to the ATM.

[Elvis 2008]

Had a similar experience years back with Aeromexico flying from Medellin to LA, had to go thru immigration in Mexico City and it was all jammed up and I missed my connection and the airline tried to charge me to get on the next flight. I will never fly on a a Mexican airline thru Mexico City to or from Medellin again.

One fucked up thing about going through Mexico is when you go from the USA through Mexico, you do not have to have your bag searched. It can be checked right through. When you are flying up from South America to the USA, probably because of concerns with drugs, you do have to recheck your bag.

Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.

If you live on the West Coast, I think that Tijuana route is great because you have no Covid tests, no baggage layovers, and the Mexican fares are usually cheap.

Wingo Airlines has really cheap fares to and from Mexico and they are a nice airline that does not often show up on searches.

And I just saw some great prices from Volaris to and from Colombia from Mexico as well.

It is nice to see cheap fares again. Things were nuts for a while.

Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?

[Villainy]

Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.

I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.

He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.

Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.

Sorry Mr. E that isn't even close to an apples to apples comparison. Sure the girl was the same one and the prices differed but don't you recognize that there are other variables in play? Here let me throw a few possibilities:

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Maybe he saw her after she had had 2 dates and was just exhausted and sore. While you saw her when she was fresh.

Maybe he treated her like shit and you treated her better.

What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.

[Mr Enternational]

However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated.

Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.

I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.

He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.

Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.

[JjBee62]

Good report.

Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls.

Facebook is a numbers game. 6 is too few. 60 would have been a better start. With just a few friends added nobody is seeing you. Especially if you don't have any friends in common amongst those 6.

I've rarely initiated conversation with Facebook girls. I just send the friend requests and keep adding. When I'm active on Facebook, I'll get a few girls contacting me every week. When I'm en route to Medellin, I post a relevant picture and the girls start hitting me up. I'll easily have 20 wanting to see me before I clear customs. Then I decide which ones I'm interested in.

[Finsfanfk]

Tantra Cra 80 #44 -139.

Comes up on Google maps and quick walk from Floresta metro station.

My Airbnb was where Avenue Nutibara and San Juan meet. $20 bucks, great patio, little noise. I did not ask about guests since I like to get a nice apartment and then do a love motel if needed. In the past other hosts have made it clear no ladies of the evening, there was no security guard so I could have tried if situation arouse. Others have suggested messaging host and making it clear you want to have guests, with so many Property listings someone will say yes.

[Knowledge]

Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.

ISG fam. Without boring you guys with all the mini details, spent a week in Medellin first week of September and this was the updated intel I gathered while I was there. I'm a veteran of the Bangkok / Pattaya scene and this was my first time in Medellin so comparing my experiences to that. Also, a big thank you to a lot of the contributors on here who helped out a ton with their previous reports prior to myself getting there. These were some of my Medellin rookie mistakes and successes:

Compared to Bangkok / Pattaya, the Medellin scene is not as in your face. Everything is more discrete and under the radar with freelancers and unmarked casas. You have to go hunting and takes more effort versus Bangkok / Pattaya where everything is centralized. On top of that, you need a decent level of Spanish here or you're going to have a lot of awkward pauses and look like a fool pulling out your phone to use Google Translate every 2nd sentence. Unlike Thailand where most girls have a basic grasp of English, the average Colombian I encountered knew ZERO English or like one or two phrases.

Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls..

[Paulie97]

Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them.

I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.

[Villainy]

Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.

The girls that quote in US $ are (as far as I know or have heard) are the girls at Gusto's or some around Parque Lleras. In the last 2 years that I lived here I've only had one FB girl quote me in US $ and that led to a "have a nice day" ending to our discussion.

However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated. I think it is fair to say they may not be. But I attribute that to a very poor idea of how to negotiate with the girls. Sure, I probably over pay a lot of the time but I think I get extra and sometimes superb service when I do. How so??

Let's say I'm talking to a FB girl and she asks what I'm going to pay. I think she's desirable and I want her. So I tell her this. I am accustomed to paying 200 mil total. Obviously I tell her what I like to do in a cita. DFK, taking photos, BBBJ etc. She'll ask how much is the propina and I'll tell her that if you do all the things I like 20 mil. And if I have the best session of my life the total propina could be 50 mil.

She will usually come back with something like throw in taxis. I usually say fine.

Some will laugh and say these girls can't remember to bring their cedula they sure aren't going to remember the "deal" but when it comes to money their memory is usually pretty sharp.

So if a guy just offers way over market without any conditions, I would agree he will get a generic session that will be way overpriced. But if he sets the terms carefully and she understands how to maximize her earn, my experience has been that more than half will try to deliver their best to get the extra money.

OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.

[GeneHickman]

I've paid top dollar maybe twice(300k). What's the difference between that and La Isla where by the time it's said and done it's 300+? They are both good. I'm sure I've given more than 200k including taxi a couple of times every trip. I won't miss the money. If we were being honest you would admit that not all girls that hear your spiel agree to meet and give you mind blowing sex. It works some of the time but not all the time. So in the end it's, to each his own.

Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.

That line about 150mil and Colombian men is just not a true statement. The price they pay in the barrios is somewhere between free and a little spending money occasionally. Many FB girls are on IG. Nothing special about IG. Some IG girls with tons of followers have no intention of doing retail puta work, they may go for a out of sized offer but their income maybe off IG, same with web cam girls. Many of these girls would have been in the game in past decades but they have an outlet now. The market rate is however fairly consistent. But that doesn't mean girls don't try to get what they can. And if you don't mind paying for whatever reason, then she found her fish, and you may have found a starfish who wants to get it over with and part with the big payday.