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  1. #34371
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.
    I could never stay less 2 weeks in Colombia, or maybe at least 10 days in Colombia. However for the guys that live "close" , like Miami, it probably makes sense to go for couple days. Last time I was there 6 weeks and didn't get bored one day.

  2. #34370
    Very well put! This list should be handed to every gringo at the airport or any port of entry. But then they drink and F it all up.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Or maybe change your entire attitude.

    You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

    BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

    Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

    1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

    2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer.

    3. Don't be desperate. If the girl isn't enthusiastic, move along. Don't be nasty about it. Just leave her with "maybe another night" and go on to the next one. If you insist on having that girl, either the price is going up, or service is going down, often both.

    4. Be nice. You're selling yourself. Most of the girls will go above and beyond for just a bit of respect. They don't get much of it from Colombian men. When some guy comes along, pays more, treats them better and let's them live the "Pretty Woman" fantasy for a few hours, many will respond.

    5. Your life doesn't depend on getting a BBBJ in Medellin. Girls charge extra for it, because too many guys act like they're searching for the Holy Grail. If you're clean, if you're treating the girl like a person instead of a sex doll, most will do it without any fuss.

    6. It's supposed to be fun. You get to spend a few hours with beautiful, young, naked Colombian women, for about the price of a cheap motel room back home. Why turn it into a chore?

  3. #34369
    Thank you very much for this post. It is spot on. I encourage guys, especially new guys, to follow it to the letter. I will significantly improve your experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Or maybe change your entire attitude.

    You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

    BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

    Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

    1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

    2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer..

  4. #34368
    New life. Busy in here early afternoon, 15 or so girls, a lot old, one I liked but decided to see other places. 3 k viewing fee for leaving.

    Pamalas. Maybe 7 girls, all looked bad to me. 2 k viewing fee for leaving.

    Club amigas sexy - 10 or so girls, 3 I would session. Paid 50 k half hour here and was happy with service and the girl. Good rooms and shower too.

  5. #34367
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.
    I'm from Cali, lived in both parts. Why is it so miserable for you LOL. For me, the economy is such a downer. I know too many people that work just to put food on the table but can't do much of anything else.

  6. #34366
    Quote Originally Posted by PunkedLife  [View Original Post]
    You have to keep negotiating. I've only had like 3 girls out of about 50 stick to the 300 k range which I refuse to pay unless it's for someone unique for multiple hours. I've even had all night or all day for 300 k. Guys can do what they want with their money but some are just fucking up the game and allowing these girls to charge 1st world prices. No ***** were in Colombia where most people make 300 k a month.

    Stop the Simping.
    Or maybe change your entire attitude.

    You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

    BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

    Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

    1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

    2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer.

    3. Don't be desperate. If the girl isn't enthusiastic, move along. Don't be nasty about it. Just leave her with "maybe another night" and go on to the next one. If you insist on having that girl, either the price is going up, or service is going down, often both.

    4. Be nice. You're selling yourself. Most of the girls will go above and beyond for just a bit of respect. They don't get much of it from Colombian men. When some guy comes along, pays more, treats them better and let's them live the "Pretty Woman" fantasy for a few hours, many will respond.

    5. Your life doesn't depend on getting a BBBJ in Medellin. Girls charge extra for it, because too many guys act like they're searching for the Holy Grail. If you're clean, if you're treating the girl like a person instead of a sex doll, most will do it without any fuss.

    6. It's supposed to be fun. You get to spend a few hours with beautiful, young, naked Colombian women, for about the price of a cheap motel room back home. Why turn it into a chore?

    BTW. The current minimum wage in Colombia is 877,803 COP plus a 102,854 COP public transit subsidy, monthly. Not 300 k.

  7. #34365

    Does the Airport bus have A / C?

    I wanted to take the bus from San Diego mall but my Didi driver told me that for 17 mil I could share an air-conditioned cab with another 3 people. I agreed because it was a hot day. The cab place somewhere near the San Diego bus station.

    Time wise I think it was about the same. So, if the bus has an a / see, there is pretty much no difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I left San Peter in Laureles at 11:05 and took Didi to the San Diego office of Ombuses. 5000 pesos. Bus left at 11:32 and went over to the stop in front of San Diego Mall. It is right across the street from where they drop you off coming from the airport. We waited there a while and left for the airport at 11:43. Arrived at the airport at 12:09 and paid the 10,500 when I got off the bus.

    So total from San Peter to airport using taxi and bus combo 15,500 pesos and 1 hour 4 minutes. The lady at the front desk at the hotel offered me an 80,000 peso taxi to the airport. For what?

  8. #34364

    The wrap up.

    Winding up this 30 day adventure. I spent the first 13 days in Lima, and will finish here in MDE with 17 days. Only a couple of days left, and here are some of my thoughts on MDE. I already did some trip reports on the Lima board.

    I'm staying at the Hotel Botero which is right next to the bus stop at what I call ground zero that will take me to the airport for 10500 K. The hotel is good. Reasonable rates, and I have a nice big room. It is girl friendly if she has a ID if Colombian or a passport if she is a Vennie. The maids will get your clothes washed for almost nothing.

    Except for spraining my ankle on the on the poor sidewalks in Centro it has been a good trip. Only small problem I had was while doing my bar hopping in Centro I did one night have a issue. I had 4 girls at my table, 3 of them were very good looking. I was dancing with two of them in a crowded spot on the dance floor. A local guy said to me (why do you have so many women. You have too much money. Where did you get it?) I told him in my limited Spanish that I worked for my money. At this point the girls pulled me away from him. About a minute later another local starts with me, but I did not understand his drunking speech. At this point I left the dance floor, and walked out. The girls of course all ran after me to get me back to the bar. I said good night, and I think I learned a lesson. Be careful you don't make the locals jealous of our ways.

    I hit 4 different casa's with New Life the most times. I wonder why it bothers some posters here that there are a lot of Gringos in New Life. To me it is OK as I have someone to talk to while trying to remember the girls names or number.

    As far as my hunting for girls to put in my rotation it has not been good. In Lima I had 2 that were GFE while in MDE I have not had any luck. Sure I have had some good sexo but not what I have had here in the past. I guess my age (74 this July) is not a help. I can dance all night and keep up with anybody but these girls like younger guys. Of course my money keeps me in deep with fine pussy.

    All in all the only thing that does not make Lima my number one spot is the long flight compared to MDE.

    I think my next trip will be to an island. I love to swim in warm clear water and hunt for fine pussy.

  9. #34363
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhagolo52  [View Original Post]
    Yes and no, depends what do you expect. If you are thinking of going to a single "club" like HK or adelitas then your options are limited in MDE since this is not how is done here. While there is places like this strip clubs and casas. You will be limited to a hand full of girls that may appeal to you. Now if your idea is some good old fashion sport fucking you can go to el centro, in my opinion I have never found a girl there that appeals to me and trust me I am not looking for 9's or 10's. Best I have seen there is a 7. Most of the best low mile action in MDE get done on line via FB usually. I would recommend to stay at the mansion to get your networking action in place and get a feel of the land. While I am not the biggest fan of the mansion it definitely helps for new people to see how things work. There is not really a big "bar" scene in MDE where there is girls for take out. There is some here and there but there is no bars that are filled with decent working girls. Besides Gusto which I DO NOT recommend unless you want to over pay and be disappointed with service.
    Great advice and that's my quandry. In Tijuana, I've grown fond of the HK game. I enjoy the parties with the hot chicas as much as the takeout. I've started a list of bars and I'm going to come up with a plan. But I've learned to just go with the flow, especially since I have no idea what to expect.

    In my mind, I have four options: casas, bars, Centro and Lleras. (I'm not sure how Lleras differs from Centro. Quality?) I'm not usually a SG guy because I want more than the bare minimum mechanical act that usually follows. But I have had a few good sessions with SGs.

    I guess my biggest concern is that the bars are scattered throughout the city. If I don't like the vibe of a place, I'd love to be able to walk a block to the next option.

  10. #34362
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    That is talking about you, not a first time visitor nor does anything to answer his question.

    3 days is not much time to learn much about or get comfortable with any particular scene be it the casas, Centro street scene, FB girls, etc. But it is plenty of time to have some fun and gain some memories. Half your budget will be spent on your airfare. If you are fine with that then my recommendation is "Come On Down!
    Yeah, airfare isn't cheap. And for this trip, I don't have a lot of flexibility on dates and times. So it'll run me about $700 RT. If my schedule would allow, I was going to try to use Viva Air. But I'll save that for next time when I can spend a day or so in Miami.

    Thanks for the advice.

  11. #34361
    Thanks, Surfer. Very helpful. And very motivating. LOL.

    Personally, I cannot complain about Tijuana. My worst experience was average. But I have a lot of patience. Haha I'm just looking for a new experience and I'm thinking Medellin fits the bill. Thanks again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I am a "vet" of Tijuana as well, but no more as it is a fucking dump and here I am. And to answer your question, three days will be perfect for a first time visit if that's all the time you have. What you need to imagine is that you will have at a minimum of 10 times as many bars to visit, let alone all the casa's all over town. And if you can imagine the street scene on Cahuilla behind Adelitas and Hong Kong, think in terms of about 25 times that size in El Centro. So your problem (and it's not a bad one) is going to be deciding where the hell to go with such a short amount of time as there are so many venues. Study this thread and you should get a good idea of which places might appeal to you.

    Oh, and I need to warn you that you won't need to worry about anyone knocking on the door after twenty minutes into a session, or girls quoting prices that only include taking off their pants to get banged.

  12. #34360
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I have never been in Medellin more than 3 days at a time. I got here on the 2nd and I am leaving on the 5th. But I do not only come here. I go all over Colombia.
    I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.

  13. #34359
    Quote Originally Posted by MtVadose  [View Original Post]
    A while back someone recommended a cafe for lunch round the corner from new life, I went there today, 10 k for a very good meal. I also recommend.

    Tried Loutron, the set up is cool but quality doesn't match, 15 girls but most older, very disappointing, this is midweek early afternoon. Better quality in the massage place I tried in Laureles first day at half the price. There is a 20 k viewing fee, prices there are 290 k 30 minutes for 320 k 1 hour, this is massage, CBJ and sex one time.

    More girls here in Colombia expect CBJ or 1 shot than anywhere I've been and plenty don't budge so most people must be paying for that. It takes some work but on tinder, Facebook or seeking can find a few hours of unrestricted sex so DFK, BBBJ and multiple pops, 200-300 k, 300 k being the norm for the better looking ones from my experience so far.
    Casa is the only place where you can't negotiate service. The only time that I didn't get BBBJ and DFK in Medellin is in a casa. In general, BBBJ and DFK is standard for fb girls and girls from the mansion, but you MUST explicitly make the service request before you agree to the session. I consider BBBJ and DFK basic service in Medellin, and I typically pay 150 k + taxi for them. Any extra service will cost you more, but you should never paid more than 300 k + taxi for a fb or mansion girl. Gusto is a different story, to enjoy gusto, you need to have a party mindset, and don't mind spending a few hundred extra dollars for the night. Gusto girls are hot and crazy, they are a little on the older side, but you can still find some 20-21 year-olds there. With gusto girls, you either need to possess hard negotiation skills or have a higher alcohol and drug tolerance than they do. If done right, gusto is a great place to party.

  14. #34358

    Negotiating

    Quote Originally Posted by MtVadose  [View Original Post]
    A while back someone recommended a cafe for lunch round the corner from new life, I went there today, 10 k for a very good meal. I also recommend.

    Tried Loutron, the set up is cool but quality doesn't match, 15 girls but most older, very disappointing, this is midweek early afternoon. Better quality in the massage place I tried in Laureles first day at half the price. There is a 20 k viewing fee, prices there are 290 k 30 minutes for 320 k 1 hour, this is massage, CBJ and sex one time.

    More girls here in Colombia expect CBJ or 1 shot than anywhere I've been and plenty don't budge so most people must be paying for that. It takes some work but on tinder, Facebook or seeking can find a few hours of unrestricted sex so DFK, BBBJ and multiple pops, 200-300 k, 300 k being the norm for the better looking ones from my experience so far.
    You have to keep negotiating. I've only had like 3 girls out of about 50 stick to the 300 k range which I refuse to pay unless it's for someone unique for multiple hours. I've even had all night or all day for 300 k. Guys can do what they want with their money but some are just fucking up the game and allowing these girls to charge 1st world prices. No ***** were in Colombia where most people make 300 k a month.

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  15. #34357

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Could be a scam if they ask the exchange outside of airbnb.
    I got Chase to call them and get my money back. Luckily after searching the forum I was able to find a couple of girl friendly places to stay. They are a lot cheaper but unfortunately no pool / gym / suite setup. The most important thing is that girls can come over without any issues.

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